What beer are we drinking this week? Episode 3

BonnieSituation

I genuinely had a moment when I had my first sup.

Absolutely loved it.

BaZmO*

I find it confusing that you both have the same avatar. I thought you were having a conversation with yourself where you couldn’t decide if you like the beer or not.

senordingdong

BaZmO* wrote: »

I find it confusing that you both have the same avatar. I thought you were having a conversation with yourself where you couldn’t decide if you like the beer or not.

That's how I feel most of the time.

Starlord_01

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of somewhere that sells Kölsch?

My dad used to live in Cologne and I'd love to get him a few bottles. DrinkStore used to do them but not anymore.

irish_goat

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of somewhere that sells Kölsch?

My dad used to live in Cologne and I'd love to get him a few bottles. DrinkStore used to do them but not anymore.

Beer Club - https://www.thebeerclub.ie/products/fruh-kolsch-50cl
Bradleys - http://www.bradleysofflicence.ie/fruh-kolsch/

If you really love him you'd get him a keg though. :pac:https://brewcrew.ie/products/fruh-fruh-kolsch-4-8-abv-30l-keg-53-pints

Dellboy54

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of somewhere that sells Kölsch?

My dad used to live in Cologne and I'd love to get him a few bottles. DrinkStore used to do them but not anymore.

Why not support local also.....;)

https://www.craftbeersdelivered.com/Tom-Crean-Killowen-Kolsch

youcancallmeal

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of somewhere that sells Kölsch?

My dad used to live in Cologne and I'd love to get him a few bottles. DrinkStore used to do them but not anymore.

Molloy's in Tallaght had Fruh Kolsch last time I was in there a week ago

9 White Deer do a nice one also.

senordingdong

And McHugh's in Artane have it too.

the beer revolu

Larkin's IPA.
Another misleading label, for me.
Hazy. Little bitterness.
Last Larkin's I'll buy.

On that bandwagon, a neighbour friend was horrified and sent me a pic of his beer, recently describing it as "yeasty milk", wondering if it was actually supposed to be like that. It went down the drain.
He bought a can of Bone Machine IPA.

I can't understand how this isn't seen as a problem by the industry.

BeerNut

the beer revolu wrote: »

I can't understand how this isn't seen as a problem by the industry.

As long as the sales figures are satisfactory the industry doesn't have a problem.

the beer revolu

BeerNut wrote: »

As long as the sales figures are satisfactory the industry doesn't have a problem.

Well, communication with your market feeds into sales figures. Issues like this can take time to filter down to sales. My neighbour, who enjoys craft beer, will never buy another Whiplash beer again. Surely no company could see this as a good thing, or even satisfactory.
Companies can always do better.

I really think the industry had a problem with IPA labelling and the worst offenders are losing sales because of it - they just don't realise it yet.

BeerNut

the beer revolu wrote: »

My neighbour, who enjoys craft beer, will never buy another Whiplash beer again.

Yet Whiplash also has a legion of highly loyal fans in multiple countries. They produce a specialty product, not a mass-market one and aren't trying to please everyone. IMO it's a more sensible approach than trying to survive on beers with broad appeal produced at micro level, like say Dundalk Bay.

the beer revolu wrote: »

I really think the industry had a problem with IPA labelling and the worst offenders are losing sales because of it - they just don't realise it yet.

I think the fashion-conscious brewers will have moved onto whatever's next after haze before that becomes a factor.

Macy0161

Larkins market the IPA as medium bitterness though? Bone Machine they say is a "modern American IPA", which rightly or wrongly, I'd always take to be Hazy NE.

youcancallmeal

Macy0161 wrote: »

Larkins market the IPA as medium bitterness though? Bone Machine they say is a "modern American IPA", which rightly or wrongly, I'd always take to be Hazy NE.

Yeah I'll always assume now that IPAs are going to hazy NE style unless they specifically say West Coast. I like both though so usually not too bothered what comes out of the can as long as it tastes nice

Beanstalk

What are your thoughts in the resurgence of the West Coast Style again? Its interesting because I'm not sure European Brewers have been able to hit the mark as well (on ones i've tried) as the American Classics that we can still get in 355ml cans. Have Mikkellers new one arriving today though will be interesting to see their take on it. It almost feels like they're afraid to go too bitter. Palates/expectations have changed with the haze craze

Macy0161

youcancallmeal wrote: »

Yeah I'll always assume now that IPAs are going to hazy NE style unless they specifically say West Coast. I like both though so usually not too bothered what comes out of the can as long as it tastes nice

With so much sales online at the moments I wonder is it a online v bricks and mortar (therefore purely based upon the label) issue?

Insect Overlord

I've been focused mostly on stouts and porters since Christmas time. Must get back into IPAs again for the spring, east and west coast style.

Had an Oude Geuze Boon à l'Ancienne the other night for something different. My girlfriend had a sip and probably would have taken the whole bottle off me if she wasn't 8 months pregnant. She reckons it reminds her a bit of Godspeed from Galway Bay.

the beer revolu

BeerNut wrote: »

Yet Whiplash also has a legion of highly loyal fans in multiple countries. They produce a specialty product, not a mass-market one and aren't trying to please everyone. IMO it's a more sensible approach than trying to survive on beers with broad appeal produced at micro level, like say Dundalk Bay.

I think the fashion-conscious brewers will have moved onto whatever's next after haze before that becomes a factor.

I'm not suggesting that Whiplash make only beers that I like. Cannot Whiplash be everything they currently are but have clear labelling which indicates what's in the can?

the beer revolu

Beanstalk wrote: »

What are your thoughts in the resurgence of the West Coast Style again? Its interesting because I'm not sure European Brewers have been able to hit the mark as well (on ones i've tried) as the American Classics that we can still get in 355ml cans. Have Mikkellers new one arriving today though will be interesting to see their take on it. It almost feels like they're afraid to go too bitter. Palates/expectations have changed with the haze craze

I agree.
Bitterness, even in so called West Coast IPA, has generally lessened, imo.

BeerNut

the beer revolu wrote: »

Cannot Whiplash be everything they currently are but have clear labelling which indicates what's in the can?

That would be square, daddy-o. The cats wouldn't be hip to it :cool:

This is a brewery that regards "Silly Stout" as a valid style designation.

the beer revolu

BeerNut wrote: »

That would be square, daddy-o. The cats wouldn't be hip to it :cool:

This is a brewery that regards "Silly Stout" as a valid style designation.

Old man shouts at cloudy beer!

senordingdong

youcancallmeal wrote: »

Yeah I'll always assume now that IPAs are going to hazy NE style unless they specifically say West Coast. I like both though so usually not too bothered what comes out of the can as long as it tastes nice

Where would the likes of scraggy Bay fit into that though? It's not hazy and it's not West Coast.

L1011

Going to have to ensure I get some of this

https://twitter.com/KinnegarBrewing/status/1364927187611189249/photo/1

Also love that Kinnegar get full artwork for the specials

the beer revolu

senordingdong wrote: »

Where would the likes of scraggy Bay fit into that though? It's not hazy and it's not West Coast.

Balanced.

senordingdong

the beer revolu wrote: »

Balanced.

Ok.
What would meet the criteria for 'original' or 'authentic' ipa? I presume it would have to be something from Britain or India and not America?

BonnieSituation

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I've been focused mostly on stouts and porters since Christmas time. Must get back into IPAs again for the spring, east and west coast style.

Had an Oude Geuze Boon à l'Ancienne the other night for something different. My girlfriend had a sip and probably would have taken the whole bottle off me if she wasn't 8 months pregnant. She reckons it reminds her a bit of Godspeed from Galway Bay.

Have a bottle there waiting on worthy night. It's gorgeous!

youcancallmeal

senordingdong wrote: »

Where would the likes of scraggy Bay fit into that though? It's not hazy and it's not West Coast.

Scraggy was released at a time when most hazy beers were weiss beers. It's a dying breed for sure

BeerNut

senordingdong wrote: »

Ok.
What would meet the criteria for 'original' or 'authentic' ipa? I presume it would have to be something from Britain or India and not America?

The closest thing to 19th century IPA you can currently buy is Orval.

Opened a Lough Gill oatmeal stout but I’m not loving it.