pinemarten Time to call halt

SILVAMAN

Eddie B wrote: »

Discussions about protected species never go down well on this forum. It draws some unwanted attention. (IMO).

From whom? We living in North Korea?

SILVAMAN

Eddie B wrote: »

A Pine Marten will do as much damage in an enclosed area, as a mink will. And around these parts, a fair share of poultry kills, are from Pine Marten. Not the Pine Martens fault, shi**y half arse* attempts of predator proofing pens.

Totally agree and have seen the damage.
Have to say that I keep poultry in a heavily afforested area where the day I don't see a pine marten is a rare day, and correct proofing of the shed avoids and attack on the birds.

daleshooter

do you think a pine martin will pass a corncrake nest if he finds one I don't think so.

Capercaillie

daleshooter wrote: »

do you think a pine martin will pass a corncrake nest if he finds one I don't think so.

What are the chances of that? Slim to none.

Eddie B

Capercaillie wrote: »

What are the chances of that? Slim to none.

Why do you say that, out of interest?

Capercaillie

Eddie B wrote: »

Why do you say that, out of interest?

They inhabit totally different habitats. Corncrake inhabit traditional hay meadows or dense nettle/iris/hogweed beds. Pine Marten inhabit dense scrub/woodland and would rarely be found in the open habitat of the corncrake. The corncrake is similarly specialised and would be rarely found in scrub/forest.

Eddie B

Capercaillie wrote: »

They inhabit totally different habitats. Corncrake inhabit traditional hay meadows or dense nettle/iris/hogweed beds. Pine Marten inhabit dense scrub/woodland and would rarely be found in the open habitat of the corncrake. The corncrake is similarly specialised and would be rarely found in scrub/forest.

The Pine Marten is a very adaptable animal. Here in the Midlands, they are seen everywhere. In all sorts of habitats. I've even seen them on the banks of the Shannon whilst fishing. Beautiful animal.

I think, the fact that Pine Martens are less common in some parts of the country, means they don't need to venture far from prime habitat, where as area's where their plentiful, the population tends to spill out into other types of habitat. (Just my thoughts on the subject)

As for Pine Marten taking Corncrake. More damage done from summer flooding, than any Pine Marten could do.

Capercaillie

Eddie B wrote: »

The Pine Marten is a very adaptable animal. Here in the Midlands, they are seen everywhere. In all sorts of habitats. I've even seen them on the banks of the Shannon whilst fishing. Beautiful animal.

I think, the fact that Pine Martens are less common in some parts of the country, means they don't need to venture far from prime habitat, where as area's where their plentiful, the population tends to spill out into other types of habitat. (Just my thoughts on the subject)

As for Pine Marten taking Corncrake. More damage done from summer flooding, than any Pine Marten could do.

Valid point with overspill. Corncrake extinct from midlands (Callows) now so Pine Marten will never be a problem for them:(. Mink a huge problem with corncrake on Callows. Most breeding waders have be exterminated because of mink as well on Callows.

Remaining corncrake populations in West are not present near any pine marten populations. I have two calling males this year and no pine marten (suitable habitat) near me. A whitethorn tree would not grow on my place (exposed site) so never a chance of good Marten habitat.

Eddie B

Capercaillie wrote: »

Valid point with overspill. Corncrake extinct from midlands (Callows) now so Pine Marten will never be a problem for them:(. Mink a huge problem with corncrake on Callows. Most breeding waders have be exterminated because of mink as well on Callows.

Remaining corncrake populations in West are not present near any pine marten populations. I have two calling males this year and no pine marten (suitable habitat) near me. A whitethorn tree would not grow on my place (exposed site) so never a chance of good Marten habitat.

That does make sence, cheers!

Cass

Eddie B wrote: »

Here in the Midlands, they are seen everywhere. .

I take all newspaper articles with a pinch of salt, but here ya go.

Eddie B

Cass wrote: »

I take all newspaper articles with a pinch of salt, but here ya go.

Yea, think that lad was on the radio too. Came out with all sorts a mad story's.

Bad_alibi

Cass wrote: »

I take all newspaper articles with a pinch of salt, but here ya go.

There's always a think of the poor children in those stories.