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2016 Vuelta a España General thread

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    #32
    godtabh
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    Just saw it here as well

    http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/88280#1D44KhKwGCX7UY0q.97


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    #33
    Hager
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    I wonder would the diagnosis have been the same if he wasn't leaving at the end of the season.


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    #34
    68 lost souls
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    Devastated for Roche, Vuelta was lining up to be his A race this year and unfortunate to get stricken down in Rio. Had to happen someone out there sad it's our Nico


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    #35
    [Deleted User]
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    Is Froome in or out for this? Wasn't expecting him to ride but they weren't ruling him out last I saw :confused:


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    #36
    dastardly00
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Is Froome in or out for this? Wasn't expecting him to ride but they weren't ruling him out last I saw :confused:

    He is planning on taking part.


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    #37
    godtabh
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    He is planning on taking part.

    Taking part maybe competing maybe not


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    #38
    pelevin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭pelevin


    Having raced the Olympics as well, I now don't expect Froome to be really up there. Would guess he'd have needed that downtime to be competitive.


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    #39
    terrydel
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    Air con is a curse on humanity.
    I've always thought that the damage it does is untold.


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    #40
    MPFGLB
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    Very bad luck for Roche Based his season around this race and was going very well Had 2 mechanicals in Rio and finished ok especially with one mechani cal where almost a minute behind peloton. Its esp unfortunate if you look at the parcours and the field No valverde purito pinot quintana Most Sky tired or injured inc Froome Landa Henao Poels not riding Only really Contador Chavez Talansjy TJVG Gesink Mal. Such a missed opportunity for Nico best opportunity in a long time


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    #41
    godtabh
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    His last tweet of him arriving in Madrid Airport and he looked grand. All smiles with his saxo mechanic (and some one else)


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    #42
    Brian?
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    I'm remortgagin my house and sticking it on Contador to be honest. Barring a crash, who's going to challenge him?

    Teejay? Chavez? A knackered Froome?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #43
    godtabh
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I'm remortgagin my house and sticking it on Contador to be honest. Barring a crash, who's going to challenge him?

    Teejay? Chavez? A knackered Froome?

    If I was to pick from that 3 to challenge Froome I'd go with Chavez. I think Orica have come a long way in 12 months as a GC team


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    #44
    MPFGLB
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    godtabh wrote: »
    His last tweet of him arriving in Madrid Airport and he looked grand. All smiles with his saxo mechanic (and some one else)

    Sickness comes on very quickly especially if very thin


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    #45
    RobFowl
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    Hager wrote: »
    I wonder would the diagnosis have been the same if he wasn't leaving at the end of the season.

    Note withdrew after speaking to Sky medical staff, not being seen or examined by same.
    A case of severe BMCitis I fear.


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    #46
    Lusk_Doyle
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    RobFowl wrote: »
    Note withdrew after speaking to Sky medical staff, not being seen or examined by same.
    A case of severe BMCitis I fear.

    Nothing a strict diet of holey cheese and toblerones won't fix.


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    #47
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Note withdrew after speaking to Sky medical staff, not being seen or examined by same.
    A case of severe BMCitis I fear.

    Its a bloody shame Still prefer he is going to BMC even if no Vuelta is the cost as I think it is indeed


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    #48
    godtabh
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    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Sickness comes on very quickly especially if very thin

    I wouldnt have thought so if you are blaming the air con in Rio.


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    #49
    Hager
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    My impression of Brailsford is that he takes the attitude of if you're not 100% with me then you're against me. As soon as he knew that Nico would not be re-signing he cut him adrift.
    Even before he left for Rio Nico said that he didn't know if he would be a riding the Vuelta but looking back with the benefit of hindsight the writing was on the wall as early as his non selection for the Tour.


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    #50
    godtabh
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    Hager wrote: »
    My impression of Brailsford is that he takes the attitude of if you're not 100% with me then you're against me. As soon as he knew that Nico would not be re-signing he cut him adrift.
    Even before he left for Rio Nico said that he didn't know if he would be a riding the Vuelta but looking back with the benefit of hindsight the writing was on the wall as early as his non selection for the Tour.

    I would agree with that assessment.


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    #51
    C3PO
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    pelevin wrote: »
    Having raced the Olympics as well, I now don't expect Froome to be really up there. Would guess he'd have needed that downtime to be competitive.

    Don't understand why Froome would even start the Vuelta if he's not going to be competitive - what's to be gained?


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    #52
    Burial.
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I'm remortgagin my house and sticking it on Contador to be honest. Barring a crash, who's going to challenge him?

    Teejay? Chavez? A knackered Froome?

    Miguel Angel Lopez! I got him e/w at 33/1 a while back.


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    #53
    Daroxtar
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    C3PO wrote: »
    Don't understand why Froome would even start the Vuelta if he's not going to be competitive - what's to be gained?

    Base miles for next season ;)


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    #54
    pelevin
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    C3PO wrote: »
    Don't understand why Froome would even start the Vuelta if he's not going to be competitive - what's to be gained?

    I'd expect he'd be going in hoping to be competitive. I wouldn't be surprised for him though depending on the parcours to ship huge time early on as he's done in some lesser races & then ride as domestique and for stage wins.
    Again though I'd presume he'd go in hoping to genuinely be competitive for GC. I just think fatigue will be too much for him, though I could be wrong.


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    #55
    dastardly00
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    Movistar have announced their starting line-up:
    Nairo Quintana, Alejandro Valverde, Rory Sutherland, José Joaquín Rojas, José Herrada, Imanol Erviti, Rubén Fernández, Jonathan Castroviejo and Dani Moreno.


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    #56
    godtabh
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    https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/765106511534186497


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    #57
    pelevin
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    Movistar have announced their starting line-up:
    Nairo Quintana, Alejandro Valverde, Rory Sutherland, José Joaquín Rojas, José Herrada, Imanol Erviti, Rubén Fernández, Jonathan Castroviejo and Dani Moreno.

    All 3 GTs for Valverde so. 3rd & 6th in Giro & Tour.


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    #58
    RobFowl
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    C3PO wrote: »
    Don't understand why Froome would even start the Vuelta if he's not going to be competitive - what's to be gained?

    As said base miles for next year bu also marking his territory in Sky. making sure the other riders know who is boss and that he can pick and choose what races he wants.


    Thats not a criticism of him btw, look at the way Sir Bradley of Wiggins was treated after 2012 and this makes not just sense but seems a good idea.


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    #59
    Lusk_Doyle
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    RobFowl wrote: »
    As said base miles for next year bu also marking his territory in Sky. making sure the other riders know who is boss and that he can pick and choose what races he wants.


    Thats not a criticism of him btw, look at the way Sir Bradley of Wiggins was treated after 2012 and this makes not just sense but seems a good idea.

    As if that is even remotely being considered as a thought about a dot on the horizon!


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    #60
    MPFGLB
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    Lusk_Doyle wrote: »
    As if that is even remotely being considered as a thought about a dot on the horizon!

    Whether its considered or not does not mean its not an option for Froome. To be honest he will not be competitve for 3 weeks so why not give other riders a chance .... Not a good policy IMO be OK if he was up for the win but he will not be ...selfish .. Land a and Konig in particular oh well that is Sky. Happy to see Quintana and Valverde are riding Quintana cud be competitive ..Hope so And Valverde ???? He is tough Parcours suit him but can he be up there I think he can


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    #61
    lennymc
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    froome could be competitive - he wasnt really pushed that hard by anyone in the tdf, so who is to say how knackered he is.


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