2016 UK import - step by step

Boggy Turf

Did I read somewhere that there are difficulties buying cars from Motorpoint and bringing them to Ireland? Was it payment issues maybe?

bazz26

Its a residency issue, they have a silly policy where they will not sell a used car to a non UK residence due to Brexit. Some people mentioned giving them a NI address as a workaround but I'd just buy somewhere else rather than jumping through their hoops.

sm3ar

bazz26 wrote: »

Its a residency issue, they have a silly policy where they will not sell a used car to a non UK residence due to Brexit. Some people mentioned giving them a NI address as a workaround but I'd just buy somewhere else rather than jumping through their hoops.

Been looking at cars and don't see much of a saving really. I've been looking second hand cars pre '10 mostly. Is it for newer cars the cash is to be made going across??

masterboy123

I have been looking for a 2014/15 Audi A4 or BMW 320D in NI only (don't want to take the hassle to fly and come back by ferry).

I can't seem to find exact model on VRT calculator. Is it possible to get the exact VRT charge by searching through UK licence plate?

bazz26

The Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series are some of the more common cars imported, you may be doing something wrong in the VRT calculator if you cannot located them in there.

masterboy123

For example they don't have automatic A4 black line edition on VRT calculator.
And the amount shown fixed or it could be plus minus 1000 euros?
Many thanks for help

bazz26 wrote: »

The Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series are some of the more common cars imported, you may be doing something wrong in the VRT calculator if you cannot located them in there.

Mc Love

plus I reckon

bazz26

The VRT calculator is a rough guide, it is not a set in stone price. Alot of the time it can be accurate but it's not a guarantee.

Denisoftus

My car wasn't in it too, so I checked nearest similar and when Revenue gave me the price it was approximately the same. So try to find the model closer to yours with the same CO and same transmission and hope for the best.

ShadowHearth

Was just wondering now.

Donedeal is overflooded with English reg cars and they conveniently say vrt price. With all deadlines, isn't it a bit dodgy buying English reg car here? What would be even process?

In fairness, you can get some really great bargains in UK now, just all the hassle really putting me off.

An Ard Ri

To be honest, it's not much hassle. If you buy from a reputable dealer, most of the transactions can be done before you go. You will only be less than a hour in the dealership and then on the way to the boat. There is a delay in getting the vrt done but you will get an appointment within the month. The only hassle I had was selling my car privately here.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Was just wondering now.

Donedeal is overflooded with English reg cars and they conveniently say vrt price. With all deadlines, isn't it a bit dodgy buying English reg car here? What would be even process?

In fairness, you can get some really great bargains in UK now, just all the hassle really putting me off.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Hi Guys,
Just looking over this thread and have a question.
I bought my car back a couple of days ago.
Just about to book the VRT appointment now.
With regard to the V5C form, the dealer gave me the original section 10 part of the form and a photocopy of the page with section 4,5,6,7 and 8 on it.He said he had to send it off to the DVLA.
My question is, is the V5C original section 10 enough for the VRT here to be completed along with bank statements etc.?
Thanks in advance.

Marcusm

Bella Crashing Locker wrote: »

Hi Guys,
Just looking over this thread and have a question.
I bought my car back a couple of days ago.
Just about to book the VRT appointment now.
With regard to the V5C form, the dealer gave me the original section 10 part of the form and a photocopy of the page with section 4,5,6,7 and 8 on it.He said he had to send it off to the DVLA.
My question is, is the V5C original section 10 enough for the VRT here to be completed along with bank statements etc.?
Thanks in advance.

Not a hope; as you were a non resident he should have handed you all the parts of the V5C that he had and then simply notified DVLA by letter of a sale to a non resident. You will not be able to Register it and pay the VRT until you get a formal notification from the DVLA. His mistake but it's likely to result in you having a VRT penalty cost. It might be harsh to say it but you would have been better off consulting this thread before the purchase, not after.

Noccy_Mondy

Question:
The vrt website states that you need documentary evidence of your ppsn no - something from the revenue commission.

Will a medical card and page from HSE stating name and address suffice?

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Marcusm wrote: »

Not a hope; as you were a non resident he should have handed you all the parts of the V5C that he had and then simply notified DVLA by letter of a sale to a non resident. You will not be able to Register it and pay the VRT until you get a formal notification from the DVLA. His mistake but it's likely to result in you having a VRT penalty cost. It might be harsh to say it but you would have been better off consulting this thread before the purchase, not after.

Thanks for your reply.
I rang the dealer just there and they hadn't sent the form off yet so he is posting the original to me now.
Thank God for that.
So when he sends the letter of sale to a non resident to the DVLA will the DVLA then contact me? Will I not be able to pay the vrt until they contact me even if I have the full V5C form.

bazz26

Once you have the full V5c form your ok to VRT the car. When you VRT it the NCT will take the V5c form off you and then they will process it which includes notifying the DVLA that the car has been permanently exported from the UK afaik. You need to do nothing at that end.

Marcusm

Bella Crashing Locker wrote: »

Thanks for your reply.
I rang the dealer just there and they hadn't sent the form off yet so he is posting the original to me now.
Thank God for that.
So when he sends the letter of sale to a non resident to the DVLA will the DVLA then contact me? Will I not be able to pay the vrt until they contact me even if I have the full V5C form.

The DVLA will never contact you and you don't need them to as you will never be the registered keeper in the U.K. You need to bring the form to the NCTS centre and complete the VRT process and then you'll get a degree no and after you tax it you'".ll get the Irish ref cert in your name which is all you'll ever need. In case the dealer has second thoughts, tell them to read the instructions with the form which tells them to give the entire* form to you.

*entire is a bit of a misnomer as when the dealer took it intrade one of the sections will have been clipped to let DVLA know. In reality you need pages 1 and 2 but get as much as you can.

Marcusm

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Question:
The vrt website states that you need documentary evidence of your ppsn no - something from the revenue commission.

Will a medical card and page from HSE stating name and address suffice?

Do you have a public services card? Or a balancing statement or tax demand?

PJ4

Hi,

My Dad has offered to give me his Citroën Berlingo van (2016). The van was brought in the UK. How much will it cost me to get the van registered in Ireland? Any information, links, online calculator etc would be great. Thanks!

biko

Merged with a very good guide on importing, read first post

magic123

Guys,advice needed again.just got car in uk,vrt boked for wed.invoice is on my name but want register car on my wife's name.is there any extra form or letter needed to do it?thanks

masterboy123

I am just wondering if a UK dealer can deliver the car to Ireland ? I could pay extra money. Any idea?

darragh o meara

masterboy123 wrote: »

I am just wondering if a UK dealer can deliver the car to Ireland ? I could pay extra money. Any idea?

Some do but you'd prob be better off going with one of the local dealers who can source a car for you in the U.K. The biggest problem with a UK dealer doing it, is that you'd be committing and paying for the car before they'd even consider it.

There are some businesses that will collect a car in the UK and deliver back to Ireland. I can't think of the name of any but a quick google should put you in the right direction.

darragh o meara

magic123 wrote: »

Guys,advice needed again.just got car in uk,vrt boked for wed.invoice is on my name but want register car on my wife's name.is there any extra form or letter needed to do it?thanks

Nope, just make sure your required paperwork is in her name and maybe bring her along just in case they need to see her.

masterboy123

Anyone here tried this service? Any good feedback?

darragh o meara wrote: »

Some do but you'd prob be better off going with one of the local dealers who can source a car for you in the U.K. The biggest problem with a UK dealer doing it, is that you'd be committing and paying for the car before they'd even consider it.

There are some businesses that will collect a car in the UK and deliver back to Ireland. I can't think of the name of any but a quick google should put you in the right direction.

inabina

Hi all, have vrt coming up on weds and worried about evidence of shipping. Have Stena line receipt showing date and my name plus car but no vehicle details in receipt as didn't have details at time of booking. My name is on stena receipt but car in my mothers name...i got car on her authorisation. Will this be an issue? Stena line booking is same day as car sale invoice. Sale invoice in mothers name. Appreciate ur advice.

Moggaman

Hi again . Bit confused. Ye might help.
I bought privately 2 weeks ago in U.K.. The seller filled out the sections 10 new keeper details and gave it to me. The rest of the sections they filled out and sent to Swansea. I signed section 8 declaration also. I'm trying to get clarification from them on whether they filled section 11 notification of export -I'm presuming they did.
Anyway I rang the DVLA to get an update on when my new registration would be sent to me. She wasn't very helpful and said something like they wouldn't do any processing with it until I send them form V756 which is an application for a certificate of permanent export(v561)
This form says you fill it only when you do not have a Vehicle Reg Cert V5C but that was sent by the seller.
Am I misunderstanding?
Thanks

Marcusm

Moggaman wrote: »

Hi again . Bit confused. Ye might help.
I bought privately 2 weeks ago in U.K.. The seller filled out the sections 10 new keeper details and gave it to me. The rest of the sections they filled out and sent to Swansea. I signed section 8 declaration also. I'm trying to get clarification from them on whether they filled section 11 notification of export -I'm presuming they did.
Anyway I rang the DVLA to get an update on when my new registration would be sent to me. She wasn't very helpful and said something like they wouldn't do any processing with it until I send them form V756 which is an application for a certificate of permanent export(v561)
This form says you fill it only when you do not have a Vehicle Reg Cert V5C but that was sent by the seller.
Am I misunderstanding?
Thanks

again, without meaning to sound harsh, you should have read up before you went over. The UK private seller should have given you the entire v5c and not filled out or sent off any sections to Swansea. It is not a permaanent export case as the registered keeper (i.e. The private seller) has not exported it. Swansea is not interested in dealing with you, understandably as you could be anyone. Under no circumstances will they issue you with a v5c in your name as you are neither the registered keeper nor a U.K. Resident. I think you will have to get back on to the seller and ask them to obtain a duplicate v5c which they can send to you and contemporaneously they can notify Swansea by letter that they have sold the car to a person who lives abroad.

You'"" be lucky to get it in time to VRT it without penalty. This must have been explained 50 times in this thread and is also set out in the guidance notes for the v5c.

Marcusm

inabina wrote: »

Hi all, have vrt coming up on weds and worried about evidence of shipping. Have Stena line receipt showing date and my name plus car but no vehicle details in receipt as didn't have details at time of booking. My name is on stena receipt but car in my mothers name...i got car on her authorisation. Will this be an issue? Stena line booking is same day as car sale invoice. Sale invoice in mothers name. Appreciate ur advice.

They want to see a ticket but with the purchase date so close they won't be particularly fussed about the name. It's not as if you are asserting that you bought it 3 months ago and kept it abroad until now - that's why they want proof of importation.

Moggaman

Marcusm wrote: »

again, without meaning to sound harsh, you should have read up before you went over. The UK private seller should have given you the entire v5c and not filled out or sent off any sections to Swansea. It is not a permaanent export case as the registered keeper (i.e. The private seller) has not exported it. Swansea is not interested in dealing with you, understandably as you could be anyone. Under no circumstances will they issue you with a v5c in your name as you are neither the registered keeper nor a U.K. Resident. I think you will have to get back on to the seller and ask them to obtain a duplicate v5c which they can send to you and contemporaneously they can notify Swansea by letter that they have sold the car to a person who lives abroad.

You'"" be lucky to get it in time to VRT it without penalty. This must have been explained 50 times in this thread and is also set out in the guidance notes for the v5c.

Thanks. Yeah clearly didn't do my homework enough .. thought I did at the time.

Moggaman

Marcusm wrote: »

again, without meaning to sound harsh, you should have read up before you went over. The UK private seller should have given you the entire v5c and not filled out or sent off any sections to Swansea. It is not a permaanent export case as the registered keeper (i.e. The private seller) has not exported it. Swansea is not interested in dealing with you, understandably as you could be anyone. Under no circumstances will they issue you with a v5c in your name as you are neither the registered keeper nor a U.K. Resident. I think you will have to get back on to the seller and ask them to obtain a duplicate v5c which they can send to you and contemporaneously they can notify Swansea by letter that they have sold the car to a person who lives abroad.

You'"" be lucky to get it in time to VRT it without penalty. This must have been explained 50 times in this thread and is also set out in the guidance notes for the v5c.

Firstly Marcusm , I am glad if your help here. I am not trying to be awkward but I am still a little baffled.
See an extract from The AA uk website below , I suppose that is why I was confused.

Notify DVLA
You must tell DVLA as soon as possible that you are no longer responsible for the vehicle. It's in your own interest to do so, as you don't want to be landed with any of the new driver's future offences and convictions.

As the seller you will need to complete the new keeper details on the V5C and sign the declaration along with the buyer. It is your responsibility to send the completed V5C to DVLA having first given the buyer the V5C/2 section - their proof of keepership until they receive a new V5C from DVLA.

This is exactly as I have done but because it is being exported i.e. An Irish address on the new keepers details it will not happen.?? if I lived in Brighton and did exactly as above there would be no issue, I would get my new V5C in the post?? but because I live in Ireland they want confirmation of export before they send me the new V5C?thanks

Harcrid

Take a look here. It explains exactly what should have been done.

https://www.gov.uk/taking-vehicles-out-of-uk/for-12-months-or-more

Bigsliothar

Moggaman wrote: »

Hi again . Bit confused. Ye might help.
I bought privately 2 weeks ago in U.K.. The seller filled out the sections 10 new keeper details and gave it to me. The rest of the sections they filled out and sent to Swansea. I signed section 8 declaration also. I'm trying to get clarification from them on whether they filled section 11 notification of export -I'm presuming they did.
Anyway I rang the DVLA to get an update on when my new registration would be sent to me. She wasn't very helpful and said something like they wouldn't do any processing with it until I send them form V756 which is an application for a certificate of permanent export(v561)
This form says you fill it only when you do not have a Vehicle Reg Cert V5C but that was sent by the seller.
Am I misunderstanding?
Thanks

Had this same issue a while back , rang DVLA and explained situation they confirmed I'd need cert of permanent export which they said would take 4-6 weeks , I sent off v756 , a couple of days later I receive original v5 in post from DVLA with cover letter explaining sellers error sending v5 to DVLA in first place so u might get lucky

Marcusm

Moggaman wrote: »

Firstly Marcusm , I am glad if your help here. I am not trying to be awkward but I am still a little baffled.
See an extract from The AA uk website below , I suppose that is why I was confused.

Notify DVLA
You must tell DVLA as soon as possible that you are no longer responsible for the vehicle. It's in your own interest to do so, as you don't want to be landed with any of the new driver's future offences and convictions.

As the seller you will need to complete the new keeper details on the V5C and sign the declaration along with the buyer. It is your responsibility to send the completed V5C to DVLA having first given the buyer the V5C/2 section - their proof of keepership until they receive a new V5C from DVLA.

This is exactly as I have done but because it is being exported i.e. An Irish address on the new keepers details it will not happen.?? if I lived in Brighton and did exactly as above there would be no issue, I would get my new V5C in the post?? but because I live in Ireland they want confirmation of export before they send me the new V5C?thanks

You're reading the wrong part. There is a separate instruction for what to do if you sell to a person who does not have a UK address. Such a person can never be issued with a v5c. It may be that the DVLA will intervene and post to you the one which has been sent to them by the seller or it may require the seller to seek a new one to send to you.

Captainsatnav

https://www.ncts.ie/1155

Lists all docs you need.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Cork123456789 wrote: »

https://www.ncts.ie/1155

Lists all docs you need.

In that list is the evidence of previous registration the V5C form?

Captainsatnav

Bella Crashing Locker wrote: »

In that list is the evidence of previous registration the V5C form?

Yes

bazz26

The V5c document is the car's UK log book.

Moggaman

Marcusm wrote: »

again, without meaning to sound harsh, you should have read up before you went over. The UK private seller should have given you the entire v5c and not filled out or sent off any sections to Swansea. It is not a permaanent export case as the registered keeper (i.e. The private seller) has not exported it. Swansea is not interested in dealing with you, understandably as you could be anyone. Under no circumstances will they issue you with a v5c in your name as you are neither the registered keeper nor a U.K. Resident. I think you will have to get back on to the seller and ask them to obtain a duplicate v5c which they can send to you and contemporaneously they can notify Swansea by letter that they have sold the car to a person who lives abroad.

You'"" be lucky to get it in time to VRT it without penalty. This must have been explained 50 times in this thread and is also set out in the guidance notes for the v5c.

So the latest is I sent off an email to the DVLA explaining that the seller incorrectly sent them the V5C and asked them to send it to me or back to them. They replied saying they do not send them outside Uk. Funny thing is I rang them before I got email reply and a nice Welsh man told me they were sending in the post to me in Ireland!!. I have read this thread through and nowhere does it mention the inconsistency in the Irish VRT site where it asks people to produce evidence of previous registration ( which is the V5C) AND certificate of permanent exportation(V561).
Now it seems to me that the majority of people went successfully to the VRT office with just the V5C and with no cert of perm exportation (obviously they had all other docs utility bills etc).
Is the V5C on its own ok then.
I have not recieved the V5C yet!! however I did fax over to the DVLA an application form for the Cert of Exportation in case I need it

Harcrid

It does not say that you need both a V5C AND cert of exportation. See below from NCTS VRT page. One or the other.

Evidence of previous registration e.g. foreign certificate of registration, a certificate of permanent exportation or a certificate of de-registration in the case of a vehicle imported from outside the EU, as appropriate, if the car has been previously registered. (A Vehicle Salvage Certificate cannot be used to register a vehicle from 20th February 2012) If the car has not been previously registered a Certificate of Conformity is required (this document will be retained by NCTS so please ensure you make a copy of it before you go to the test centre). Please provide original documentation only.

Moggaman

Harcrid wrote: »

It does not say that you need both a V5C AND cert of exportation. See below from NCTS VRT page. One or the other.

Evidence of previous registration e.g. foreign certificate of registration, a certificate of permanent exportation or a certificate of de-registration in the case of a vehicle imported from outside the EU, as appropriate, if the car has been previously registered. (A Vehicle Salvage Certificate cannot be used to register a vehicle from 20th February 2012) If the car has not been previously registered a Certificate of Conformity is required (this document will be retained by NCTS so please ensure you make a copy of it before you go to the test centre). Please provide original documentation only.

Thanks, I believe you are right but that is not how it reads .

bazz26

My understanding is that normally if you the Permanent Export Cert then it means the V5C was already sent by the previous owner to the DVLA in Swansea so technically you should not have both. Afaik the NCTS will accept either when VRTing the car.

magic123

Guys,just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. Just followed all advices given here and yesterday got irish reg plates fitted. The whole process buying car in uk and registering in ireland was very straight forward, thanks to you all :-)

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Hi guys,

Would any of ye be able to tell me if you can use several cards when paying for the vrt on the day. I would be looking to use my debit card and wife's debit card as our bank has a low limit. Do the vrt centre have a limit on how many cards you can use for the transaction?
Thanks.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Hi Guys,
Some of you might have seen my earlier post with regard to the V5C form. I received it in the post today but they have only sent me page 1. I already have section 10 from page two but the garage that I bought the car off have just told me on the phone that they have thrown away the rest of page 2 with sections 9,11 and 12 on it for reasons unknown. Do I have any hope of success with the vrt inspection having only page one and section 10 of page 2 with me? Thanks.

Marcusm

Bella Crashing Locker wrote: »

Hi Guys,
Some of you might have seen my earlier post with regard to the V5C form. I received it in the post today but they have only sent me page 1. I already have section 10 from page two but the garage that I bought the car off have just told me on the phone that they have thrown away the rest of page 2 with sections 9,11 and 12 on it for reasons unknown. Do I have any hope of success with the vrt inspection having only page one and section 10 of page 2 with me? Thanks.

All the info they require is in sections 4-7 so absent getting someone impractical (not unlikely in my experiences), it should be sufficient. Also make sure you can identify the VIN stamped on some part of the chassis/body of car. The first one I did, she tried to insist on finding one on the underbody rather than the suspension tower in the engine bay.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Marcusm wrote: »

All the info they require is in sections 4-7 so absent getting someone impractical (not unlikely in my experiences), it should be sufficient. Also make sure you can identify the VIN stamped on some part of the chassis/body of car. The first one I did, she tried to insist on finding one on the underbody rather than the suspension tower in the engine bay.

Thank fook for that. Thank you.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Lads on the vrtvpd2 form section 3. It's confusing me slightly, do I fill this part in? I bought the car myself and my name is on the invoice.
It states;
"Person/Business who purchased the vehicle outside the state if not the proposed registered owner"
The terminology is throwing me.
Thanks.

Marcusm

Bella Crashing Locker wrote: »

Lads on the vrtvpd2 form section 3. It's confusing me slightly, do I fill this part in? I bought the car myself and my name is on the invoice.
It states;
"Person/Business who purchased the vehicle outside the state if not the proposed registered owner"
The terminology is throwing me.
Thanks.

It would be if you used a car sourcing company etc.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Marcusm wrote: »

It would be if you used a car sourcing company etc.

I didn't use a car sourcing company so I leave this section blank do I??