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"Women have a right to be topless"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Breasts there only breasts


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    Because women can restrain ourselves from crashing the car when we see a man's chest on display :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    The poor sensitive souls would get offended at the sight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    Discodog wrote: »
    I heard an interview with her on the radio & I have to agree. If topless men are allowed then why not topless women ?

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/festivals/women-have-a-right-to-be-topless-woman-defends-topless-protest-at-music-festival-34917126.html
    Because a frantic brigade of puritans on the right-wing and sex-negative feminazis on the left wing insist on treating women's bodies like sacred ornaments........

    Oh wait, according to the Guardian the answer is MEN! THE BLOODY PIGS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    She wasn't charged with exposing her boobs. The charge was failing to obey the instruction of a Guard - amazing what Guards are able to instruct you to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,713 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Ger'em off ya !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It's good to see that Liveline and Indo are at the cutting edge of journalism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    I completely agree with her. It would be different if it was on a main street or in a shop/restaurant/school etc. But anywhere where it is perfectly socially acceptable for men to go topless (such as beaches/parks/gardens etc), it should be acceptable for women as well. Most women probably won't want to, especially at the start in front of male friends/family (due to body issues/embarrassment), but if a woman is comfortable doing so, then of course she should be able to.

    How is it that most western countries not only allow it, but it is the norm, and people don't seem to have a heart-attack related to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    I don't see why women shouldn't be allowed to go around topless. Ye can change the law if ye fight hard enough, but ye'll never change the durty purvs like me with their sunglasses on hot days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Whats the bets there was MDMA involved?

    TAPPPSSSS AAAFFFFF!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    dotsman wrote: »
    I completely agree with her. It would be different if it was on a main street or in a shop/restaurant/school etc. But anywhere where it is perfectly socially acceptable for men to go topless (such as beaches/parks/gardens etc), it should be acceptable for women as well. Most women probably won't want to, especially at the start in front of male friends/family (due to body issues/embarrassment), but if a woman is comfortable doing so, then of course she should be able to.

    How is it that most western countries not only allow it, but it is the norm, and people don't seem to have a heart-attack related to it?

    Because male sexuality is vilified and the female body is shamed , creating a toxic environment where both genders feel demoralized, one for having perfectly natural desires and the other for having perfectly natural bodies. Blame the Churches, the media, advertisers and the 3rd wave clickbait feminists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Someone think of the children!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Is it really an issue? I can't think of one man that would have a problem with a woman being topless.

    I understand women wanting to have the right to do it, which is fine. But blaming the 'patriarchy' is pretty dam silly imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Is it illegal for a woman to be topless in public?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Is it illegal for a woman to be topless in public?

    I believe it's under public decency laws


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It should be illegal for men to be topless in public too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It should be illegal for men to be topless in public too.

    Seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It should be illegal for men to be topless in public too.

    the irony is it's always the ugliest, most beer-bellied lads who decide to take their tops off. I'd be all in favour of that law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    I'm getting fierce sick of gobshytes making big fcuking deals out of nothing.

    Fcuk off Trying to be offended all the fcuking time.

    I think I need something to eat >.>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Apparently it was women with children that complained.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    She was absolutely right. It's so funny in Spain on holidays to see people's attitudes to their and other people's bodies. Topless woman at every beach, kids running around nude and no one bats an eyelid. Why should it be different here and why should there be a rule for men and a rule for woman.

    Public indecency my hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?



    He'd feed half of Africa with them bad boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and tried to break my fall in doing so I touched a man's topless upper body. It would probably be brushed off.
    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and to break my fall I touched a topless woman's breasts. I'd probably be charged with something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and tried to break my fall in doing so I touched a man's topless upper body. It would probably be brushed off.
    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and to break my fall I touched a topless woman's breasts. I'd probably be charged with something.

    Clumsy cnutery?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Jayop wrote: »
    She was absolutely right. It's so funny in Spain on holidays to see people's attitudes to their and other people's bodies. Topless woman at every beach, kids running around nude and no one bats an eyelid. Why should it be different here and why should their be a rule for men and a rule for woman.

    Public indecency my hole.

    I was in Portugal last week and there was a little girl about 2 or 3 running around a pool with nothing on. The mother wasn't long being told to put something on the child by a lifeguard. I must admit I wasn't comfortable with a naked child running around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    Jayop wrote: »
    She was absolutely right. It's so funny in Spain on holidays to see people's attitudes to their and other people's bodies. Topless woman at every beach, kids running around nude and no one bats an eyelid. Why should it be different here and why should their be a rule for men and a rule for woman.

    Public indecency my hole.

    Women go topless on Irish beaches too and no one bats an eyelid.

    I never saw a topless woman at music festivals in Spain.

    You're not comparing like for like.

    I've no issue with it btw. I couldn't give a fiddlers if men walked around with their bollox hanging out. Bodies are bodies. We all have them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and tried to break my fall in doing so I touched a man's topless upper body. It would probably be brushed off.
    If I was at that music festival and I stumbled forward and to break my fall I touched a topless woman's breasts. I'd probably be charged with something.

    Would you?

    I think the average woman is intelligent enough to know if you slipped accidentally or not. It would be no different if you 'slipped' and grabbed a clothed breast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Naked tittys make the baby Jesus cry. Can't be having that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    He'd feed half of Africa with them bad boys.

    It wouldn't be so much "motor-boating" as "cargo-shipping"...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    pablo128 wrote: »
    I was in Portugal last week and there was a little girl about 2 or 3 running around a pool with nothing on. The mother wasn't long being told to put something on the child by a lifeguard. I must admit I wasn't comfortable with a naked child running around.

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Whoever called gardai on her are fcuking twats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Naked tittys make the baby Jesus cry. Can't be having that.

    Fcuk him. Tats outs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    Women go topless on Irish beaches too and no one bats an eyelid.

    I never saw a topless woman at music festivals in Spain.

    You're not comparing like for like.

    I've no issue with it btw. I couldn't give a fiddlers if men walked around with their bollox hanging out. Bodies are bodies. We all have them.

    I've never seen a topless woman at am Irish beach and believe me I've been looking. Maybe it's just around the posh eastern beaches that happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Seriously?

    I don't give a damn what people do on the beach. However topless men around cities and towns should be outlawed in the name of good taste. And topless football supporters should be banned for life from stadiums.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    Women go topless on Irish beaches too and no one bats an eyelid.

    I never saw a topless woman at music festivals in Spain.

    You're not comparing like for like.

    I've no issue with it btw. I couldn't give a fiddlers if men walked around with their bollox hanging out. Bodies are bodies. We all have them.

    Steady on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    Jayop wrote: »
    I've never seen a topless woman at am Irish beach and believe me I've been looking..

    Maybe they sense that creepiness and put their tshirt back on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    Maybe they sense that creepiness and put their tshirt back on.

    They may have been topless under their duffel coats. I couldn't tell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Because men and women are different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Because men and women are different

    What's so special about a breast that it shouldn't be seen in public?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Jayop wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because I imagined even by looking at the child I could be accused of being a paedo. It was at a big park with a number of pools and was very busy.

    I got the impression that the mother couldn't care less though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Story Bud? wrote: »
    I've no issue with it btw. I couldn't give a fiddlers if men walked around with their bollox hanging out. Bodies are bodies. We all have them.

    Easy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Christ we're full of Puritans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What's so special about a breast that it shouldn't be seen in public?
    Why would a woman wear a push up bra? To make them look fuller, to increase their attractiveness. Why would they do that if there's nothing special about womens breasts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    TSMGUY wrote: »
    Because male sexuality is vilified and the female body is shamed , creating a toxic environment where both genders feel demoralized, one for having perfectly natural desires and the other for having perfectly natural bodies.

    Agreed, it is completely wrong, but it is unfortunately how things are in this country.
    TSMGUY wrote: »
    Blame the Churches, the media, advertisers and the 3rd wave clickbait feminists.

    I'm not really a "blame" person. "Blame" never solves the problem. To me, solving the problem is standing by and encouraging those trying to address it. in this case, I stand with the girl in question. And had I been present, I would have have stood with her (and left the festival with her).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Because I imagined even by looking at the child I could be accused of being a paedo. It was at a big park with a number of pools and was very busy.

    I got the impression that the mother couldn't care less though.

    That's the problem though. Not having a dig at you but it's been driven into us here in Ireland the UK that a 2 or 3 year old child playing with no clothes on is somehow dirty or sexual. The parent didn't care because they probably weren't raised with the same hang ups we have. That's my point they are much more body comfortable and not every nude situation has to be sexual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    We've been to clothes optional beaches in Denmark during last summer have to say it was no big issues even with 2 kids 4 and 7 ,
    Even at a shop away from the beach you had women in there 60s to 12 waking around topless while shopping didn't think it was a big deal ,
    Here for whatever reason it's still considered a major taboo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Why would a woman wear a push up bra? To make them look fuller, to increase their attractiveness. Why would they do that if there's nothing special about womens breasts?

    Why do men go to the gym and try to get pecs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Jayop wrote: »
    Why do men go to the gym and try to get pecs?

    To ogle the girlie's and their tittys. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    Jayop wrote: »
    Why do men go to the gym and try to get pecs?

    Oh oh oh I know this!

    So they can look good topless.

    :smug:


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