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2017 World Tour transfer rumours (and facts)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    pelevin wrote: »
    Maybe if I actually knew him I'd think he's fine but at a distance Matthews doesn't come across to me as the most appealing character.

    Comes across as a bit of an ego whos more interested in living the high life then working harder to become better. Even the nickname "bling" sounds like something a medicore premiership player would call himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    So Purito retires after the Olympic Race next week...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    That's mad with Matthews!. What am ssset to lose. He will do well wherever he goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    So Sagan & entourag eof 4 other riders from Tinkoff to Bora ..confirmed

    Therfore Sam Bennett will ride in the same team

    Majka rumoured tocome across too....Imo Bennett may not ride the Tour again for a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Astana signs
    Moreno Moser (Cannondale)
    Oscar Gatto (Tinkoff)
    Jesper Hansen (Tinkoff)
    Michael Valgren Andersen (Tinkoff)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Kreuziger move to ORICA BikeExchange confirmed. Despite strong rumours of moving to Katusha....
    http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/game-changing-kreuziger-joins-orica-bikeexchange.phps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Trev De rev




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    How long has Roche signed for?

    I wonder was there a falling out at Sky? Not riding Tour probably confirmed hai exit


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    How long has Roche signed for?

    I wonder was there a falling out at Sky? Not riding Tour probably confirmed his exit


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    godtabh wrote: »
    How long has Roche signed for?

    I wonder was there a falling out at Sky? Not riding Tour probably confirmed his exit

    BMC don't say how long contracts are for.
    Something that is a policy of theirs for some reason..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    godtabh wrote: »
    How long has Roche signed for?

    I wonder was there a falling out at Sky? Not riding Tour probably confirmed his exit

    Its a one year contract ...nothing to do with Roche but BMC may have issues re sponsor after 2017

    No falling out at SKY for Nico but I guess he realised that there are no opportunites ...everything for Froome at that team...even the one week stage races...and Roche still ambitious which is a good thing

    Think he signed for SKY to imprive which I think he has and becasue great friend Porte was there ...Porte probably a big part in him going ot BMC where he wil be looking for Ardennes and Vuelta leadership and play a role for Porte at the Tour

    Only problem is now he may not get a Vuelta spot for SKY or if he does he will get no freedom...Afterall he has said the reason he is joining BMC is for more attacking racing ...kind of mud in the eye for SKY who are contanstly accused of non entertaining/non aggressive racing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Ryder Hesjedal retires at end of 2016


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    godtabh wrote: »

    Caleb Ewan be Oricas main sprinter then. Any word on where Degonkolbs heading to or he staying at Giant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Oymyakon


    neris wrote: »
    Caleb Ewan be Oricas main sprinter then. Any word on where Degonkolbs heading to or he staying at Giant?

    I heard he was going to Trek


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Denglekob going to Trek.

    On the same subject.............I dont think there has been a FORMAL announcement on Contadors move, 4 days into the "window".....? I wonder if there is a hitch?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    He is racing now. Maybe he wants to concentrate on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    ^a huge loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭pelevin


    Maybe like Dan Martin at Garmin, Tony'd gone a bit stale at EQS. Seemed to me a waste how he'd not broadened as a rider to be competing in things like Paris Roubaix to win well before now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    pelevin wrote: »
    Maybe like Dan Martin at Garmin, Tony'd gone a bit stale at EQS. Seemed to me a waste how he'd not broadened as a rider to be competing in things like Paris Roubaix to win well before now.

    Not to mention the going off the boil a bit on TTs after he had looked set to really dominate these.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Lusk_Doyle wrote: »
    Not to mention the going off the boil a bit on TTs after he had looked set to really dominate these.

    Is that down to the work he has to do for team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    godtabh wrote: »
    Is that down to the work he has to do for team?

    It would be hard to grasp that they sacrificed his clear superiorty in that discipline for the team when they don't do GC rides and only have a certain amount of sprint stages to ride on. Doesn't make sense. He has been their GC rider on several one week races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    Valverde in shock move for next season:

    20160820_172102-1.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭dragratchet


    he'll be battling for selection, we've a lot of strong all-rounders these days :pac:
    Valverde in shock move for next season:

    20160820_172102-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,018 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Very interesting article on a bidding war happening for riders with ranking points at the foot of the UCI table for teams scrambling to avoid being dumped down to Continental status:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rider-prices-rise-as-teams-reach-panic-over-worldtour-points/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Very interesting article on a bidding war happening for riders with ranking points at the foot of the UCI table for teams scrambling to avoid being dumped down to Continental status:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rider-prices-rise-as-teams-reach-panic-over-worldtour-points/

    Will Cummings winning the ToB move the needle at all for Dimension Data?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,018 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Will Cummings winning the ToB move the needle at all for Dimension Data?

    I thought that too but it looks like ToB is on the UCI Europe Tour rather than UCI World Tour... I'm assuming the points don't transfer over so wouldn't help keep a team on the World Tour?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Ellisonde is signing for sky, apparently. They are a bit short on mountain domestiques...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I thought that too but it looks like ToB is on the UCI Europe Tour rather than UCI World Tour... I'm assuming the points don't transfer over so wouldn't help keep a team on the World Tour?

    Sure they will be certs for wildcards for all races anyway with the way they ride.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    godtabh wrote: »

    Thats good news. TBF, he has tweeted recently that he was looking forward to next year, but there was plenty of noise about him perhaps retiring despite the initial Trek rumours. I wasnt always a fan of his, and still have mixed feelings around his Clenbuterol bust, but - as we saw so often recently - he ignites so many races and we'll undoubtedly miss him when he hangs up his shoes.....


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    Thats good news. TBF, he has tweeted recently that he was looking forward to next year, but there was plenty of noise about him perhaps retiring despite the initial Trek rumours. I wasnt always a fan of his, and still have mixed feelings around his Clenbuterol bust, but - as we saw so often recently - he ignites so many races and we'll undoubtedly miss him when he hangs up his shoes.....

    He may ignite races but I dont think he is as explosive as he was before. I think he is targeting the Tour again next year. Will be interesting but he is past it (I hope he proves me wrong).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    godtabh wrote: »
    He may ignite races but I dont think he is as explosive as he was before. I think he is targeting the Tour again next year. Will be interesting but he is past it (I hope he proves me wrong).

    Agreed, though its tough to hear him called 'past it'.......it brings to mind that Sean Kelly quote about teammates not being like old greyhounds that you can bring out the back and shoot when they get too slow....:eek:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    godtabh wrote: »
    He may ignite races but I dont think he is as explosive as he was before. I think he is targeting the Tour again next year. Will be interesting but he is past it (I hope he proves me wrong).

    No one is a bigger fan of Contador than me and I'm afraid he's past it as well. He's not going to win the Tour next year.

    He'll prove me wrong and win the Giro now.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    If Degankolb has his way he'll have a sprint train for the Tour which puts Contador at an obvious disadvantage against his rivals. That was sort of going to be the case this year (aside from crashes and ultimately leaving the race)... Sagan as WC had the right to demand support riders for himself and he got them.

    You need 8 guys supporting you at the Tour now. Not 4 guys doing something else and potentially one of your super domestiques ie,Mollema, eyeing the prize for himself.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    If Degankolb has his way he'll have a sprint train for the Tour which puts Contador at an obvious disadvantage against his rivals. That was sort of going to be the case this year (aside from crashes and ultimately leaving the race)... Sagan as WC had the right to demand support riders for himself and he got them.

    You need 8 guys supporting you at the Tour now. Not 4 guys doing something else and potentially one of your super domestiques ie,Mollema, eyeing the prize for himself.

    I assume Contador is aware of this when signing? He wont command a team like he did in the past so where does that leave him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    godtabh wrote: »
    I assume Contador is aware of this when signing? He wont command a team like he did in the past so where does that leave him?

    4th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    I think Trek are probably more interested in his profile than his ability. He still commands the biggest publicity. I think though Contador is more interested in wining the Tour . But wihtout a team to take on SKY & Movistar he really is up gainst it...And do rumours suggest alot of TT in next years Tour so he and his team are even more handicaped

    Still though romance is not dead and stranger things have happened

    Say either Frooem or Quintana can't make it or get ill or crash and then he has only one contender ...and if they have a bad day or mess up or whatever

    Leicester won the premership and Contador is in a better positon to win the Tour in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    ....to go to Lampre Merida.
    Interesting move, I didn't realise he was out of contact at Sky. This could be an interesting team next year with a big injection of Chinese cash.

    http://cyclingquotes.com/news/lampre-merida_sign_ben_swift/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    ....to go to Lampre Merida.
    Interesting move, I didn't realise he was out of contact at Sky. This could be an interesting team next year with a big injection of Chinese cash.

    http://cyclingquotes.com/news/lampre-merida_sign_ben_swift/

    Swift needs a big injection of Sprint Speed to do anything of note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Swift needs a big injection of Sprint Speed to do anything of note.

    Not really ...he is not a top end sprinter and is in fact a good climber...time to look at the cobbles imo

    He is tough with a 3rd and 2nd at MSR ....maybe he can do something in Belguim

    Who is riding for this team besides Rui Costa & Ullissi ?

    At least he will get some chances...hadn't a hope at SKY

    He is not a bad rider at all ....just hard for him to find a niche


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭brocbrocach


    godtabh wrote: »


    Wow, who's this Hernandez kid? Must be an up-and-coming prospect as I haven't seen him in GTs in the last few years. It's lucky for him he's moving to Trek now as at least he'll know one person at his new team to help him settle in.


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