25,000 ft, no parachute

hynesie08

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would the net not act as a strainer at that speed leaving a pile of mince on the other side?

That was my thought as well, surely any sort of net would slice through your skin at that sort of momentum.

Pac1Man

I feel sorry for the guy waiting beside the net with the dustpan and brush.

Wibbs

hynesie08 wrote: »

That was my thought as well, surely any sort of net would slice through your skin at that sort of momentum.

Eh nope. Because of terminal velocity, whereby an object falling through air will reach a speed where the aerodynamic forces balance out the force of gravity and the object can't fall any faster(or something like that anyway). Why do you think parachutes work?

In the standard skydiving pose he will reach a terminal velocity of around 100 mph. If anything he will be travelling faster the higher up he is(air less dense so slightly less resistance). In short if he jumped from 1000 feet or 25,000 feet his speed with be essentially similar on landing.

KERSPLAT!

KERSPLAT!

SEPT 23 1989

The poor test dummy went straight through the net.

His name has not been released yet

bnt

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would the net not act as a strainer at that speed leaving a pile of mince on the other side?

I'm wondering about that too, because that's where the dummy body differs from the human body. But the net won't be tight, it's designed to give under the impact and slow him down gracefully. It's hung from tall cranes for that reason: plenty of space under it.

Felix Jones is God

Burial. wrote: »

Well one for things for sure, he'll have an adrenaline rush and an experience few if any can compare with. Fair play to the lad.

I think after this, the only thing he'll be experiencing is your username!

thierry14

4 year old son at home

Crazy

Samaris

On the one hand, here's a great example of human insanity when it comes to pushing the limits. On the other...here's a great example of human insanity when it comes to pushing the limits.

Godspeed, you crazy diamond.

I really hope it doesn't go wrong...

El Weirdo

bnt wrote: »

On Saturday night, about 1AM our time, a skydiver will attempt the first intentional survivable jump from altitude without a parachute, wingsuit or any other system to slow him down. The plan is to land on a very big net instead: details here.

The jumper, Luke Aikans, is a veteran skydiver and stuntman, and the stunt will be shown live on a Fox reality show, Heaven Sent. "Live" meaning "with a few seconds delay", in case it goes spectacularly wrong. I suspect the news channels won't be far behind. Wingsuits are so 2012: this is the new elite extreme sport ... :cool:

Cheers for the Daily Mail warning.

dr.fuzzenstein

bnt wrote: »

On Saturday night, about 1AM our time, a skydiver will attempt the first intentional survivable jump from altitude without a parachute, wingsuit or any other system to slow him down. The plan is to land on a very big net instead: details here.

The jumper, Luke Aikans, is a veteran skydiver and stuntman, and the stunt will be shown live on a Fox reality show, Heaven Sent. "Live" meaning "with a few seconds delay", in case it goes spectacularly wrong. I suspect the news channels won't be far behind. Wingsuits are so 2012: this is the new elite extreme sport ... :cool:

That time cam and went and nothing. Was the jump postponed?

tayto lover

I hope he jumps out of the plane at the right spot otherwise he might miss the net. Mad sort of thing to be trying.

machiavellianme

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That time cam and went and nothing. Was the jump postponed?

He's doing it on Saturday night in the USA. That works out as Sunday morning here.

BorneTobyWilde

Shirely he has a back up parachutey justin case he needs it . Like if he get blown half way down.

RustyNut

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Shirely he has a back up parachutey justin case he needs it . Like if he get blown half way down.

Id prefer to get blown before i went just incase something goes wrong.

daithi7

It's a win win for him really:
Succeed: instantaneous fame, fortune, endorsements, movie etc etc

Fall : A Darwinian Award.



(Oh, and the minor matter of a violent death)

Discodog

It's been done before without a net.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade

Samaris

Discodog wrote: »

It's been done before without a net.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade

That's probably where the "intentional" bit comes in :P

To get a Guinness Book of Records note, would he have to do it in the other direction too? :pac:

RustyNut

Discodog wrote: »

It's been done before without a net.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade

And then there was this fella.

RustyNut

Wibbs wrote: »

Eh nope. Because of terminal velocity, whereby an object falling through air will reach a speed where the aerodynamic forces balance out the force of gravity and the object can't fall any faster(or something like that anyway). Why do you think parachutes work?

In the standard skydiving pose he will reach a terminal velocity of around 100 mph. If anything he will be travelling faster the higher up he is(air less dense so slightly less resistance). In short if he jumped from 1000 feet or 25,000 feet his speed with be essentially similar on landing.

I think the 25,000 ft thing is either a typo or poetic licence being taken by fox and and daily fail. 2,500 would be a much more realistic height for a jump like this. 25,000 puts you well into hypoxia territory so you need oxygen and would just hugely complicate an already dodgy adventure. Can't wait to see it. Is it available live online anywhere?

Heckler

RustyNut wrote: »

I think the 25,000 ft thing is either a typo or poetic licence being taken by fox and and daily fail. 2,500 would be a much more realistic height for a jump like this. 25,000 puts you well into hypoxia territory so you need oxygen and would just hugely complicate an already dodgy adventure. Can't wait to see it. Is it available live online anywhere?

I nearly hope he dies. Might stop this ridiculous "look at me" nonsense.

****ing idiot.

RustyNut

Heckler wrote: »

I nearly hope he dies. Might stop this ridiculous "look at me" nonsense.

****ing idiot.

Right little ray of sunshine on a bank holiday weekend...

SEPT 23 1989

RustyNut wrote: »

Is it available live online anywhere?

ogrish.com

Heckler

A young single man who wants to Darwinian. No probs.

A family man = idiot.

I would lay money its going to go wrong and he has a chute.

Noone is that stupid.

Longboard

They released a mock up of the jump . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDKJQ3Z8bU

Wibbs

Heckler wrote: »

Noone is that stupid.

Oh I'd not lay a bet on that H.

On the family thing I agree, but maybe his contract has it so if he goes splat his family get a huge never have to work again ever payment and that's why he's still up for it?

Samaris

I'd say it would be just plain common sense to have a parachute in reserve in case it starts going wrong. He's committed to -trying- it, not committed to dying if it doesn't look like it's going to work!

MonkieSocks

"The Art of Skydiving" by Willie Makeit and Betty Won't.

Heckler

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh I'd not lay a bet on that H.

On the family thing I agree, but maybe his contract has it so if he goes splat his family get a huge never have to work again ever payment and that's why he's still up for it?

Maybe Wibbs. Who knows ? If he is actually doing this with no backup he's an idiot with balls of titanium.

If he pulls it off he'll be a hero. If he's jam its told ya so.

I kinda hope he pulls it off. Its gonna inspire darwinian idiots and cull the gene pool.

BorneTobyWilde

He'll be praying to Saint Annette all the way down I imagine.

bnt

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That time cam and went and nothing. Was the jump postponed?

Saturday Night, 1AM a.k.a. 1AM Sunday Morning.

RustyNut wrote: »

And then there was this fella.

... and I also mentioned that he won't be wearing a wingsuit either.

play4fun1

can somebody start countdown ?
btw , jump

dirtyden

This all sounds a bit far fetched. Why 25000 feet? Surely to do something like this successfully you are relying on accuracy and jumping from that high up increases the room for error and hence risk.

The article also says he has 18000 previous jumps, that's 1 a day, every day of the year for 50 years. Surely that's also rubbish.

Isolt

I am fascinated. If I stay up til 1am where can I watch it online?
I skydived 20,000 feet a few years ago and with the sheer speed of the freefall there is no way I would have reacted quick enough to open the parachute without the tandem instructor with me. Maybe you need a few jumps to get past that feeling but I still think this jump is absolute insanity.

Ken.

4ensic15 wrote: »

That is one way. there and back would be 4.6 km not 7.6

That's why I said there and back and back again. Close enough to 7 km.

yqtwqxqm

Pure madness.

dastardly00

dirtyden wrote: »

The article also says he has 18000 previous jumps, that's 1 a day, every day of the year for 50 years. Surely that's also rubbish.

He could easily have racked up to 15-20 jumps in a day. When you're at the airfield and there is a plane available, you're hardly going to have just one jump!

BorneTobyWilde

I think landing on one of the cranes holding the net in place will be significantly harder on the body than landing on the net .

yqtwqxqm

One gust of wind blows me off my feet - on the ground.
Imagine if he gets a gust

B.A._Baracus

Dangerous stunt. Is it really worth it?

matchthis

Why not just do it from 5000ft? Surely you'll reach a maximum free fall speed. You'll either hit the target and pull it off or burst through the crust, mantle core etc and fly out the other side

BorneTobyWilde

WOuld love to hear the science behind all this. If one was to land in water from that height they would die on impact, yet water absorbs impact. What makes this net so different.
Is this a bit like being shot from a cannon across a field into a net.

bnt

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

WOuld love to hear the science behind all this. If one was to land in water from that height they would die on impact, yet water absorbs impact. What makes this net so different.
Is this a bit like being shot from a cannon across a field into a net.

Sure, the water absorbs impact ... and so do you. The net is designed to give under the impact and decelerate him slowly. Water, when hit at that kind of speed, does not give quickly enough: it hangs around and hits you back. :eek:

tayto lover

I bet he calls it off at the last minute.

BorneTobyWilde

This is like catching a bullet with a net, is that possible to do without damaging the bullet.

BorneTobyWilde

tayto lover wrote: »

I bet he calls it off at the last minute.

Due to wind.

the groutch

tayto lover wrote: »

I bet he calls it off at the last minute.

because of the Zika virus.

FalconGirl

Christ what a gob****e.... Where can I witness this stupidity?

Amalgam

..if anyone is interested in a film about people falling from planes without chutes, you could do no worse than follow up Werner Herzog's, Wings of Hope (Wikipedia), which follows the story of Juliane_Koepcke (Wikipedia).

Wings of Hope (IMDB)

Google/YouTube is your guide..

bnt

FalconGirl wrote: »

Christ what a gob****e.... Where can I witness this stupidity?

Don't know, but I'm kind-of hoping that Sky News or the like will cover it. We're probably not going to be able to get the US Fox feed here without e.g. VPNs.

Note that the show that will feature the stunt, Heaven Sent, starts at 8PM ET = 1AM Irish time - but I don't expect the stunt to be at the start of the show. I could be wrong, though - they haven't given an exact time for it.