Kerry man to have speed limiter fitted to car after caught at 164km/h

marno21

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/court-hears-man-drove-at-164-kilometres-per-hour-on-main-tralee-killarney-road/

Does this happen often?

Armchair Andy

I've never seen a kerry website before either!

colm_mcm

Er...he can still drive other people's cars - like he was doing when he got caught

Gob****e should have gotten a more appropriate sentence.

He comes from a wealthy family AFAIK, so laying out €1500 to avoid any conviction or any effect on his insurance is a pretty sweet deal.

Atlantic Dawn

Mad **** happens in Kerry, a drunk driver caught for his 2nd offence driving at nearly 4 times the drink drive limit escaped a ban until December so he could find a "nice woman"....

A bachelor farmer from an isolated part of Co Kerry will not be put off the road for drink driving until December so he can get his affairs in order, a court has ruled.

In the meantime, John O’Shea (60) is to try find “a nice woman” at the Lisdoonvarna matchmaking festival to drive him around, the court heard.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/judge-gives-farmer-time-to-find-nice-woman-before-driving-ban-1.2678677

colm_mcm

Same judge.

One is reminded of judge Zaidans lax attitude towards dangerous drivers on his last day in Inishowen, and how that ended up.

FrontDoor

How would you fare with that sort of a judgement when it comes to getting a quote?

The_Honeybadger

That's insane, he should've been banned. The piece doesn't state if he got penalty points, presume he got six at least? It's two fingers to all the drivers being caught just over the limit in peri-urban areas causing no danger to anybody if he was left off.

Atlantic Dawn

FrontDoor wrote: »

How would you fare with that sort of a judgement when it comes to getting a quote?

I'd presume it's classed as a conviction so they will have to inform their insurer or potential insurer and when they hear about the speed they may decline offering cover for a new quote.

biko

Funny that he put 1500 into the poor box
It's really common use in Kerry

pablo128

I really shouldn't say this but if they reckon a shade over 100mph is ferocious driving, there's an awful lot of savages out there!

Nekarsulm

Although to be honest, the use of Kilometres per hour makes it look worse than it is.
Who hasn't at some stage done 90 mph on a good stretch of road?
And probably in something a lot more ordinary than a 2 litre Integra.

pablo128

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Although to be honest, the use of Kilometres per hour makes it look worse than it is.
Who hasn't at some stage done 90 mph on a good stretch of road?
And probably in something a lot more ordinary than a 2 litre Integra.

I've done way more in yokes a lot more ordinary, though in my defence not in any kind of traffic.

All the same, had I been caught I would have fully accepted I was losing the licence for a good while. I don't come from a wealthy or influential family though.

Atlantic Dawn

Anyone know what the actual limit is on the road in question he was caught on?

marno21

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Anyone know what the actual limit is on the road in question he was caught on?

100km/h. It's a wide single carraigeway opened in 2006.

EDIT: It's the road marked N22 in this link: https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.2035221,-9.5639595,16z?hl=en

CiniO

164km/h doesn't sound too bad there. Looks like nice wide straight road.
It's only 64% over the speed limit.

Very comparable to being 64% over the speed limit on Dublin Queys with 30km/h limit. To achieve that it's enough to do 50km/h there.

OttoPilot

CiniO wrote: »

164km/h doesn't sound too bad there. Looks like nice wide straight road.
It's only 64% over the speed limit.

Very comparable to being 64% over the speed limit on Dublin Queys with 30km/h limit. To achieve that it's enough to do 50km/h there.

The difference in stopping distance between 30 and 50 km/h is roughly 13 metres. The difference between 100 and 160 is likely close to 100 metres so they're not really comparable.

dr.fuzzenstein

CiniO wrote: »

164km/h doesn't sound too bad there. Looks like nice wide straight road.
It's only 64% over the speed limit.

Very comparable to being 64% over the speed limit on Dublin Queys with 30km/h limit. To achieve that it's enough to do 50km/h there.

It's real "ah Jaysis, begosh and begorrah, shurre 'tis terrible shpeed altogether, de ceaar must have been liftin' off de road now, so it must".
Speed starts at 200. Serious speed starts at 250. 160 will get you blasted off the Autobahn for being a slowpoke. I'd call it cruising speed.

pcuser

biko wrote: »

Funny that he put 1500 into the poor box
It's really common use in Kerry

Im from Limerick but living in Kerry the last 6 years, I have to admit Country living is different from City Living .

But lets be honest with the way the penal system is in Ireland at the moment. The judge had 2 choices.
(Custodial Sentence) Which would cost the tax payer a lot of money incl transfers to/from prison and be released after a few days.

(Fine) Its not costing the taxpayer money for transfers,prison stay, medical bills etc

I dont agree with a minuscule punishment for these types of crimes, But surely its better to "Hit them in the pocket" as opposed to a "Revolving Prison Sentence"

pablo128

pcuser wrote: »

Im from Limerick but living in Kerry the last 6 years, I have to admit Country living is different from City Living .

But lets be honest with the way the penal system is in Ireland at the moment. The judge had 2 choices.
(Custodial Sentence) Which would cost the tax payer a lot of money incl transfers to/from prison and be released after a few days.

(Fine) Its not costing the taxpayer money for transfers,prison stay, medical bills etc

I dont agree with a minuscule punishment for these types of crimes, But surely its better to "Hit them in the pocket" as opposed to a "Revolving Prison Sentence"

He could have banned him like many others have been banned in the same situation.

CaptainInsano

I got 3 points and a 120 euro fine for doing 57 in a 50 zone leaving a village, 3 seconds after the speed van I was in the 60 zone. Are there grades of speeding?

CiniO

OttoPilot wrote: »

The difference in stopping distance between 30 and 50 km/h is roughly 13 metres. The difference between 100 and 160 is likely close to 100 metres so they're not really comparable.

Yes, but stopping distance from 30km/h is probably about 12 metres (assuming 1 seconds reaction time), while stopping distance from 100km/h is about 68 metres (also assuming 1 seconds driver's reaction time).

So while doing 160km/h instead of 100km/h adds a good bit to stopping distance, but this stopping distance was already very high at 100km/h. Road is designed for it.

In town centre adding, where stopping distance from 30km/h is normally around 12 metres, adding extra 13 meteres makes a huge difference f.e. when a pedestrian steps right in front of your car.


Percentagewise, increase in stopping distance between 30 and 50km/h is very similar to increase in stopping distance from 100km/h to 160km/h.

OttoPilot

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It's real "ah Jaysis, begosh and begorrah, shurre 'tis terrible shpeed altogether, de ceaar must have been liftin' off de road now, so it must".
Speed starts at 200. Serious speed starts at 250. 160 will get you blasted off the Autobahn for being a slowpoke. I'd call it cruising speed.

Didn't realize Kerry roads were of the same standard as the autobahn. And 160 would certainly not get you blasted off as the advisory speed is 130.

ironclaw

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It's real "ah Jaysis, begosh and begorrah, shurre 'tis terrible shpeed altogether, de ceaar must have been liftin' off de road now, so it must".
Speed starts at 200. Serious speed starts at 250. 160 will get you blasted off the Autobahn for being a slowpoke. I'd call it cruising speed.

I was about to say, 160km/h is not exactly fast. Its 100mph. You're average family saloon will hit that without any effort at all, probably won't even feel it

FortySeven

OttoPilot wrote: »

Didn't realize Kerry roads were of the same standard as the autobahn. And 160 would certainly not get you blasted off as the advisory speed is 130.

Have you driven on the autobahn? Last few times I was there I was getting passed at 240 kmph. At 160 I felt like a pensioner in a micra.

A good road is a good road. Doesn't matter where it is. I drive at 160 all the time. Never come close to the car exploding or chasing down puppies and children or anything.

Just get where I'm going faster.

Del2005

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'd presume it's classed as a conviction so they will have to inform their insurer or potential insurer and when they hear about the speed they may decline offering cover for a new quote.

He paid €1500 to avoid a conviction, therefore he's nothing to disclose to insurance companies.

How did I know it would be a useless top speed limiter. He can still double the urban limit so a stupid restriction from a gombeen judge.

fullstop

CiniO wrote: »

164km/h doesn't sound too bad there. Looks like nice wide straight road.
It's only 64% over the speed limit.

Very comparable to being 64% over the speed limit on Dublin Queys with 30km/h limit. To achieve that it's enough to do 50km/h there.

Only 64% above the limit?! Ah sure they should be giving him €1500 so and not the other way around :rolleyes:

gctest50

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It's real "ah Jaysis, begosh and begorrah, shurre 'tis terrible shpeed altogether, de ceaar must have been liftin' off de road now, so it must".
Speed starts at 200. Serious speed starts at 250. 160 will get you blasted off the Autobahn for being a slowpoke. I'd call it cruising speed.

Lot of geramens get splattered at the isle of man - can do the speed can't de corners

Hal1

Wow a slap on the wrist, say 3 hail mary's and 1 our father and put something in the poor box.

savagethegoat

does such a device exist? I imagine it could be had but I doubt it could be sourced and fitted within the timeframe as it would be a one off.

colm_mcm

I'd imagine the youngfella offered to do it, and there will be no actual checking of it down the line.

savagethegoat

cute Kerry hoor ?

vicwatson

These judges need impeachment, who the heck are they answerable to? Bad signal being sent out

Joe 90

pablo128 wrote: »

I really shouldn't say this but if they reckon a shade over 100mph is ferocious driving, there's an awful lot of savages out there!

That was my thought. 100 mph, not that fast.

Damien360

Joe 90 wrote: »

That was my thought. 100 mph, not that fast.

Very much depends on road and location and traffic conditions. N roads are not built for those speeds as any clown can come out on the road or make a sudden turn. How many times have we all come across the auld wan in a RAV4/micra/fluence trundling along at 30kmph on a road and you have to drop your speed fast to avoid a smash.

Don't know Kerry very well but pretty sure there is no motorway from Tralee to Killarney.

It's not the speed that kills but the sudden stop.

Lia_lia

His insurance seems cheap In fairness that road is quite wide and long. Easy to go over the speed limit on it. My brother was caught speeding on it last year, nothing like the speed that fella was going though. Enough to warrant 3 points.

I remember a few years ago a fella I know from Killarney was caught speeding, around the same speed as yer man on this story. He was also pretty much given a slap on the wrist and a limiter. He comes from a well known family in the area. People get away with a lot.

Del2005

savagethegoat wrote: »

does such a device exist? I imagine it could be had but I doubt it could be sourced and fitted within the timeframe as it would be a one off.

Yes, they are fitted to HGV's and busses.

corks finest

marno21 wrote: »

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/court-hears-man-drove-at-164-kilometres-per-hour-on-main-tralee-killarney-road/

Does this happen often?

You should see him in a David brown

He should be strung up, had his balls removed and banned from driving for life!




















Not really.

bear1

The fact we are comparing a single carriageway in Kerry to the autobahn beggars belief.
I'd agree that in general 160 on a motorway is a nice enough pace but 160 on a road with a 100 limit is insane.
You wouldn't get let off anywhere else but luckily we have the most idiotic judges on hand to surprise us time after time.
If I was convicted and banned of a similar offence and saw this as the penalty given to this lad I'd be onto my lawyer to get my conviction appealed on the grounds of utter bolloxology.

Charles Babbage

OSI wrote: »

Nobody else think it's a bit pathetic that we live in a country where speeding warrants getting your name mentioned in the media and therefore permanently searchable on the Internet?

If anyone does not want this then there is an easy way to prevent it.

testicles

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Oasis1974

Surely Danny Healy-Rae will bring this matter to the attention of the Dail? It would be right up his street. Only God controls the driver etc.....

bear1

testicles wrote: »

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That's my point, he got off for it and yet there are many others who have been revealed in newspapers who didn't get so lucky.

Special Circumstances

bear1 wrote: »

That's my point, he got off for it and yet there are many others who have been revealed in newspapers who didn't get so lucky.

They need to work on their swim suit bod.

http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/10/08/speeding-limerick-beauty-queen-praised-for-honesty/

Thoie

Damien360 wrote: »

Very much depends on road and location and traffic conditions. N roads are not built for those speeds as any clown can come out on the road or make a sudden turn.

bear1 wrote: »

The fact we are comparing a single carriageway in Kerry to the autobahn beggars belief.
I'd agree that in general 160 on a motorway is a nice enough pace but 160 on a road with a 100 limit is insane.

Agree with the above. 164kph on a motorway is a completely different kettle of fish to doing it on that road. Yes, it's not a bad bit of road for that part of the country, but there are side roads, gates into fields, driveways into houses all over it.