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Kids in Cafes

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    #212
    Elliott S
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    Smondie wrote: »
    Sprawl? Most dogs don't come in Prams with a heap of specialised paraphernalia

    Yes, sprawl. That paraphenalia is hard to miss. Did you see what my issue with the sprawling is? Read posts properly before jerking your knee.


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    #213
    Discodog
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    I used to bring two big dogs into the pub in England & never had a problem. The owners & regulars welcomed them.


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    #214
    Baggly
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Sprawl? Most dogs don't come in Prams with a heap of specialised paraphernalia

    The sooner we all get robot child minders, the sooner this thread becomes redundant.

    Generally dont leave them in the pram 24/7 because....you guessed it....it tends to piss them off and they start giving out.


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    #215
    the purple tin
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I used to bring two big dogs into the pub in England & never had a problem. The owners & regulars welcomed them.
    You can train dogs to sit or lie quietly on the floor while you have a pint or two, try doing that with a pair of young children ;)


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    #216
    Baggly
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    Elliott S wrote: »
    Children aren't cadgers and they don't sprawl. They sometimes smell but there are usually facilities available to sort that out. And, as said before, sweet jesus, the doggie ball-licking. So not really comparable at all.

    OK.
    1. Whether its a dog lying out, or a kid & pram & changing bag, the effect is the same, they take up lots of space.
    2. If a child is sweaty or covered in food in the middle of the meal, or anything apart from a dirty nappy, its not always possible to address the issue immediately.
    3. The post i quoted didnt mention ball-licking, so thanks for bringing that back up there.


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    #217
    Elliott S
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I used to bring two big dogs into the pub in England & never had a problem. The owners & regulars welcomed them.

    I doubt you know if they all did. Some might not have been keen but felt they couldn't say anything.


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    #218
    Smondie
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    the purple tin wrote: »
    Discodog wrote: »
    I used to bring two big dogs into the pub in England & never had a problem. The owners & regulars welcomed them.
    You can train dogs to sit or lie quietly on the floor while you have a pint or two, try doing that with a pair of young children ;)
    Maybe when you have two young children you are supposed to be minding pints shouldn't be on the agenda?


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    #219
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
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    gifted wrote: »
    I love it...watching other people looking over tut tuting...usually the people who don't have kids because they're so miserable that no one wants to be with them.....rock on kids with the noises, it's one of lifes happy sounds...

    I really hope that you're one of those nasty cowards who says things on the internet that you wouldn't dream of saying in real life.

    I really, really do.


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    #220
    Elliott S
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    Pter wrote: »
    Whether its a dog lying out, or a kid & pram & changing bag, the effect is the same, they take up lots of space.
    My point about sprawling as I already said was that they are easy to miss. They are low to the ground. It's very hard to miss baby paraphenalia.
    If a child is sweaty or covered in food in the middle of the meal, or anything apart from a dirty nappy, its not always possible to address the issue immediately.

    Yup, babies can smell. From my experience of both babies and dogs, babies rarely enough smell, whereas more dogs smell than don't smell. (even when their owners insist they don't. :rolleyes:)
    The post i quoted didnt mention ball-licking, so thanks for bringing that back up there.

    Well, it's an issue, whether you like it or not.

    And, the cadging. Again, probably 50% of dogs are cadgers. It's incredibly annoying and again, is another thing owners turn a blind eye to.

    So, I'm glad dogs in pubs, restaurants and cafes isn't generally the done thing in Ireland (apart from guide dogs obviously). Long may it continue.


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    #221
    OldNotWIse
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I used to bring two big dogs into the pub in England & never had a problem. The owners & regulars welcomed them.
    Not to derail, but on this point I have noticed that Ireland has a much lower tolerance level when it comes to the four legged furries!


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    #222
    OldNotWIse
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    Leonardo Refined Symbolism wrote: »
    I really hope that you're one of those nasty cowards who says things on the internet that you wouldn't dream of saying in real life.

    I really, really do.

    I also hope that nobody who is desperately trying for a child read it.


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    #223
    stillatit
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    This conversation has been going since the beginning of cafes!

    I used to think under 12s should be kept in the zoo. But I have now extended it to anyone under 25.


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    #224
    the purple tin
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Maybe when you have two young children you are supposed to be minding pints shouldn't be on the agenda?
    Ah shure they would drive ya to it :P


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    #225
    Smondie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    the purple tin wrote: »
    Smondie wrote: »
    Maybe when you have two young children you are supposed to be minding pints shouldn't be on the agenda?
    Ah shure they would drive ya to it :P
    A half bottle of vodka is more portable and the smell is less noticeable! Jeesh do they teach parents anything these days?


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    #226
    goz83
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Me and my mates are heading to the local play centre for lunch. We've no children with us but we intend being as loud and as obnoxious as possible. I wonder how long before we're asked to leave? No protected status for us!

    Children don't intend on being bold. They just can be. I am only glad that your post is only a childish, obnoxious falsity that you wouldn't have the balls to actually carry out.


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    #227
    Smondie
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    goz83 wrote: »
    Smondie wrote: »
    Me and my mates are heading to the local play centre for lunch. We've no children with us but we intend being as loud and as obnoxious as possible. I wonder how long before we're asked to leave? No protected status for us!

    Children don't intend on being bold. They just can be. I am only glad that your post is only a childish, obnoxious falsity that you wouldn't have the balls to actually carry out.


    They can be, but thay's when the parents should step up and start parenting.

    It's easy to blame the child being bold and not the parents being useless. I don't see bold children, only crap parents.


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    #228
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Smondie wrote: »
    . I don't see bold children, only crap parents.

    just wait till you have your own and remember that statement:)


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    #229
    Discodog
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Not to derail, but on this point I have noticed that Ireland has a much lower tolerance level when it comes to the four legged furries!

    Totally different attitude to animals. Not everyone but way more than elsewhere. And from the comments here people seem to have a strange impression of dogs. If mine were under the table in a pub or cafe you wouldn't know they were there.


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    #230
    Smondie
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Smondie wrote: »
    . I don't see bold children, only crap parents.

    just wait till you have your own and remember that statement:)
    Ah, the ould condesening line is pulled out of the bag. Sure only parents would understand, because none of them want to be acknowledged as crap. We're all in the crap parenting club together, better not rock the boat. You may be surprised to find out how many I have ;)


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    #231
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Ah, the ould condesening line is pulled out of the bag. Sure only parents would understand, because none of them want to be acknowledged as crap. We're all in the crap parenting club together, better not rock the boat. You may be surprised to find out how many I have ;)

    As you would know children act up sometimes for various reasons no matter how good or bad your patenting skills are


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    #232
    Smondie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Smondie wrote: »
    Ah, the ould condesening line is pulled out of the bag. Sure only parents would understand, because none of them want to be acknowledged as crap. We're all in the crap parenting club together, better not rock the boat. You may be surprised to find out how many I have ;)

    As you would know children act up sometimes for various reasons no matter how good or bad your patenting skills are
    And the parents response to the acting up is what is important here. To label the child as bold is to deflect from the real issue and an easy cop out.


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    #233
    goz83
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    Smondie wrote: »
    And the parents response to the acting up is what is important here. To label the child as bold is to deflect from the real issue and an easy cop out.

    Tosh. I've got 5 kids from under a year to 13 years. One has adhd and asbergers, so his acting out is understandable, but no less acceptable to me. That said, sometimes they can be just bold...it's not a cop out, it's a fact and has nothing to do with my parenting. There's a fine line between discipline and abuse. Some here expect parents to be boot camp marshals while at the same time, be whisper quiet.

    There is no pleasing everyone. I learned that a long time ago. So I'll go to cafes as I please and bring my kids if I wish. People can throw looks and seethe in discontent all they like if one of them happens to fart. I'll just get on with life, not worrying about the little things others b1tch about..


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    #234
    gifted
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    Leonardo Refined Symbolism wrote: »
    I really hope that you're one of those nasty cowards who says things on the internet that you wouldn't dream of saying in real life.

    I really, really do.

    No I'm not....anyone got a problem with my kids have a problem with me...their dad.


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    #235
    gifted
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    Leonardo Refined Symbolism wrote: »
    I really hope that you're one of those nasty cowards who says things on the internet that you wouldn't dream of saying in real life.

    I really, really do.

    I also really really hope that your a hot looking woman who loves kids in cafes...

    I really really do.


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    #236
    Grayditch
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    How boring life must have become since having kids, that watching them annoy other people is a highlight.

    Let's get these out of the house so other people can experience the frustration of them!


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    #237
    [Deleted User]
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    goz83 wrote: »
    So I'll go to cafes as I please and bring my kids if I wish. People can throw looks and seethe in discontent all they like if one of them happens to fart. I'll just get on with life, not worrying about the little things others b1tch about..
    It clearly isn't off the stones the brats are licking it.

    Next time consider that you're probably sitting around parents who have gone to the trouble of hiring a babysitter, and are trying to enjoy a rare hour or two in adult, or non-screaming company.


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    #238
    Smondie
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    Good old adhd, where would we be without it?


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    #239
    Yellow pack crisps
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    yeah sure unlike 'adults' who spill drink into you and leech around you screaming and dancing like they think they are John travolra and sing like they think they are Pavarotti and generally have the 'craic' while I'm trying to read a newspaper and always bothering me asking questions like why are you reading a newspaper? And then I've to explain that to them while I just want a quiet drink in a pub! They might try and steal something too!! Probably prefer a few kids having innocent fun in a cafe to be honest!!!


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    #240
    Isolt
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    It really cheers me up to see happy children when I'm out and about. Reminds me to appreciate the simple things, like how happy they get when they see marshmallows in their hot chocolate!

    I'm a mother myself though and in general I'm not really that miserable so I'm not bothered by other people's children.


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    #241
    yellowcandle
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    I had the misfortune to pass by the food hall upstairs in Liffey Valley today. It was full of youngsters high on sugar. It was a total nightmare.


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