Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

SEPT 23 1989

dogbert27 wrote: »

Dammit!

I'm already dreading the 17th. Mourinho with another park the bus tactic and a mis-hit shot from Rooney falls to Ibrahimovic and they win 1-0.

Mourinho is back the papers will say. Klopp suffers the dreaded manager of the month award.

City fan in peace

You lads will run amok against them

Rayne Wooney

martyos121 wrote: »

Please remind us on Monday week how bad a player Coutinho is. Please.

Big game Monday week, may the best team win!

Agent Coulson

Barca scouts will be out in force.

billymitchell

What a night
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLL9uwyhltE/

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Barca scouts will be out in force.

For Sturridge?

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

For Sturridge?

That's the Order Of Malta scouts you're thinking of :pac:

x43r0

billymitchell wrote: »

What a night
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLL9uwyhltE/

I don't know why these videos always have some ****e dance music over them.

The actual game commentary is always infinitely better

Kerrigooney

This whole combined teams,we've got better players than you have is a load of bollocks anyway. You could have the best player in the world for their position all over the pitch but if they're not functioning as a team it's not worth anything. It kinda happened at Real Madrid a few years ago. How many of Leicester's team would any Liverpool or Man Utd fan have put in a combined team last season? 2? Maybe 3? They still won the league by 10 points.

I'd take Utd's keeper anyway for a start.

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

I'd take Utd's keeper anyway for a start.

Who wouldn't?

But can we leave it there because this is just gonna kick off the debate again and surely no one wants that. It never ends well.

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Who wouldn't?.........

~I don't know.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some claim we'd be better off letting Klopp mould Karius into what he wants him to be etc etc

5starpool

Ah de Gea is rubbish.

Kerrigooney

5starpool wrote: »

Ah de Gea is rubbish.

Ah de Gea...David de Gea's lesser known younger brother

Grayditch

Combined 11's are like listening to two lads who hate each other say which parts of each other's wife they'd stick on their own. Those tits wouldn't have a chance getting onto my Sharon. Yeah, but I know you think Lindsay's arse is world class but I wouldn't even touch it with yours.

Bandana boy

There is no doubt a lot of UTD players would arguably start in a combined 11 , they have one of the most expensively put together squads in Football history.

Its when you put together a strategy of playing together that it falls down , 7 games in I am no closer to understanding what utd are trying to do and I suspect the team has that same problem.

niallo27

5starpool wrote: »

Ah de Gea is rubbish.

Give me Mig any day over old chocolate wrists

Rayne Wooney

Bandana boy wrote: »

There is no doubt a lot of UTD players would arguably start in a combined 11 , they have one of the most expensively put together squads in Football history.

Its when you put together a strategy of playing together that it falls down , 7 games in I am no closer to understanding what utd are trying to do and I suspect the team has that same problem.

You could have said the same about Klopp a year ago, an incredibly expensive jigsaw puzzle of players that didn't look like it was going to fit together.

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

You could have said the same about Klopp a year ago, an incredibly expensive jigsaw puzzle of players that didn't look like it was going to fit together.

Ye have the most expensive player in history in your squad, the difference in expense is vast and cant be compared.
Cost of United squad £628 vs Liverpool £310m.

Maybe a better question is would you replace United's manager with Liverpool's? My guess is you would in a heart beat.

After been told we are irrelevant to United for years, I love the fact you have to come in here and tell us your players are better. That insecure about your team are you?

Rayne Wooney

rob316 wrote: »

Ye have the most expensive player in history in your squad, the difference in expense is vast and cant be compared.
Cost of United squad £628 vs Liverpool £310m.

Maybe a better question is would you replace United's manager with Liverpool's? My guess is you would in a heart beat.

After been told we are irrelevant to United for years, I love the fact you have to come in here and tell us your players are better. That insecure about your team are you?

Your guess would be wrong, why would I swap a manager who was league champion as recent as last year? If Mourinho can't fix United, Klopp definitely can't.

Are you shocked that a United fan takes part in a discussion about United?

martyos121

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Your guess would be wrong, why would I swap a manager who was league champion as recent as last year? If Mourinho can't fix United, Klopp definitely can't.

Are you shocked that a United fan takes part in a discussion about United?

Because Mourinho starts off well and then drops off badly after a season or two. At this rate, ye're on course for the Championship within 2 seasons. :pac:

TitianGerm

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Your guess would be wrong, why would I swap a manager who was league champion as recent as last year? If Mourinho can't fix United, Klopp definitely can't.

Are you shocked that a United fan takes part in a discussion about United?

Jose didn't win any league last year

Rayne Wooney

emmetkenny wrote: »

Jose didn't win any league last year

Are we rewriting history now?

Should we take away all his league titles?

NukaCola

emmetkenny wrote: »

Jose didn't win any league last year

Last year yes. Last season no.

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Your guess would be wrong, why would I swap a manager who was league champion as recent as last year? If Mourinho can't fix United, Klopp definitely can't.

Are you shocked that a United fan takes part in a discussion about United?

Not at all and I welcome the discussion but spouting hyperbole nonsense that a single Liverpool player wouldn't get into the United team adds nothing to the conversation.

If that is your genuine belief fair enough, but it is wrong. Firmino, Coutinho, Mane, Clyne would walk into that team.

Rayne Wooney

rob316 wrote: »

Not at all and I welcome the discussion but spouting hyperbole nonsense that a single Liverpool player wouldn't get into the United team adds nothing to the conversation.

If that is your genuine belief fair enough, but it is wrong. Firmino, Coutinho, Mane, Clyne would walk into that team.

I never said they wouldn't get into the squad, when everyone is fit none of them would be starters for me bar Clyne possibly. And I'm sure Liverpool fans would say only 1 or 2 would get into your own starting lineup.

Where's the hyperbole?

NukaCola

I think they're all a great bunch of lads personally......

Looking forward to seeing this "real" United though, I've seen them play poorly to decent enough this season but I must not seen the right games because if boards is anything to go by Liverpool will be lucky to keep it to within 4 goals such is the strength of United's squad....

Will be interesting to see if they bother to turn up if nothing else....

martyos121

Just to put this to bed, here's my combined XI:

DaveSuarez

I'd imagine about 90% of United fans would happily swap Jose for Klopp.

The other 10% just won't admit it.

DrumSteve

Thought I clicked in the United thread there for a sec.

mosstin

martyos121 wrote: »

Just to put this to bed, here's my combined XI:

Your formation is totally wrong there.

marklazarcovic

jeez lads ye are long enough on here to know the score here,does not matter what ye say.

Buford T. Justice XIX

mosstin wrote: »

Your formation is totally wrong there.

And the Bus isn't starting!

That's mad, Ted!

eyerer

marklazarcovic wrote: »

jeez lads ye are long enough on here to know the score here,does not matter what ye say.

This

MD1990

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I never said they wouldn't get into the squad, when everyone is fit none of them would be starters for me bar Clyne possibly. And I'm sure Liverpool fans would say only 1 or 2 would get into your own starting lineup.

Where's the hyperbole?

But what about the best RB in Europe Darmian

Harry Palmr

Gary Macs legendary derby goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YugvLIbUmQM

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/06/golden-goal-gary-mcallister-liverpool-everton-april-2001

Charlie19

Not sure how legit this is but if true, there isn't much between the two managers after a similar amount of games during their first year in charge at Liverpool.
______BR

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JK
Games 37 - 38
Wins 18 - 16
Draws 10 - 13
Losses 9 - 9
Points 64 - 61
Goals 73 - 71
Total shots (inc. blocks) 645 - 739
Shots on target 210 - 232
Passes 20120 - 19802
Passing accuracy % 80.9 - 84.2
Average possession % 58.8 - 57.4
Tackles 825 - 795
Interceptions 508 - 526
Goals conceded 50 - 43
Shots faced (inc. blocks) 365 - 433
Shots on targets faced 128 - 141
Yellow cards 57 - 54
Red cards 2 - 2

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/564tzt/brendan_rodgers_v_jurgen_klopp_first_year_as/

cj maxx

Charlie19 wrote: »

Not sure how legit this is but if true, there isn't much between the two managers after a similar amount of games during their first year in charge at Liverpool.
______BR

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JK
Games 37 - 38
Wins 18 - 16
Draws 10 - 13
Losses 9 - 9
Points 64 - 61
Goals 73 - 71
Total shots (inc. blocks) 645 - 739
Shots on target 210 - 232
Passes 20120 - 19802
Passing accuracy % 80.9 - 84.2
Average possession % 58.8 - 57.4
Tackles 825 - 795
Interceptions 508 - 526
Goals conceded 50 - 43
Shots faced (inc. blocks) 365 - 433
Shots on targets faced 128 - 141
Yellow cards 57 - 54
Red cards 2 - 2

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/564tzt/brendan_rodgers_v_jurgen_klopp_first_year_as/

Who ? Klopp and ?

RainMakerToo

cjmc wrote: »

Who ? Klopp and ?

Rodgers..

Charlie19

Rodgers did have two preseasons, while klopp only had the one.

NukaCola

Charlie19 wrote: »

Rodgers did have two preseasons, while klopp only had the one.

And the 2nd best player in world football......

Charlie19

NukaCola wrote: »

And the 2nd best player in world football......

And I'm sure he's thanked Rodgers for getting the best out of him.

OwaynOTT

martyos121 wrote: »

Just to put this to bed, here's my combined XI:

Nah, not having that. Needs more Doni on the wing.

NukaCola

Charlie19 wrote: »

And I'm sure he's thanked Rodgers for getting the best out of him.

I dont think so, I think we are seeing the best of him now at Nice......

NukaCola

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Nah, not having that. Needs more Doni on the wing.

A real utility player, remember we even gave him a game at GK?.......good times....

5starpool

Charlie19 wrote: »

Rodgers did have two preseasons, while klopp only had the one.

Well he only had one pre-season for those games while Klopp had none for most of them. Doesn't matter anyhow, no point comparing.

Neither of the above records are good enough for a long period of time. Rodgers did much better in his second season, hopefully Klopp will have a marked improvement too as we are currently seeing the start of (hopefully) but without the huge decline in points and quality afterwards.

NukaCola

Charlie19 wrote: »

And I'm sure he's thanked Rodgers for getting the best out of him.

Just to make a serious point, Rodgers will never get any credit for anything at LFC from a lot of people especially here, however I thought he done an excellent job in his first 2 seasons. He had an average/poor 3rd season with a disappointing final 1/3 of the season brought that form into the next season. His LFC team took a step forward and a step back unfortunately.

I'm happy we replaced him with Klopp as it was IMO the right thing to do, but I'll remember his time at LFC fondly. Many would disagree I suppose.

Charlie19

5starpool wrote: »

Well he only had one pre-season for those games while Klopp had none for most of them. Doesn't matter anyhow, no point comparing.

Neither of the above records are good enough for a long period of time. Rodgers did much better in his second season, hopefully Klopp will have a marked improvement too as we are currently seeing the start of (hopefully) but without the huge decline in points and quality afterwards.

I just found it interesting on how close some of the stats were considering how poor I thought Rodgers first six months went. I agree about Klopps second season, I hope its a cracker. I don't expect another "nearly season" so soon under Klopps reign but a Top Four finish would be great.

Charlie19

Charlie19 wrote: »

......... a Top Four finish would be great.

Indeed it would

NukaCola

Joe Allen can score now......

https://streamable.com/5v21

Rayne Wooney

MD1990 wrote: »

But what about the best RB in Europe Darmian

Really out of form sadly.

Valencia has had better form than Clyne though so it's a toss up.