Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

BorneTobyWilde

This has potential to be a huge score
5-6-7-8 . . Can see us winning if we don't lose or draw.

Riesen_Meal

Has Karius been confirmed as starting?

Honestly I'd probably have Mignolet in there quicker, better the devil you know etc...

Buford T. Justice XIX

I would be nervous of Karius coming for crosses, he doesn't seem confident enough as yet.

Potential Underachiever

Fieldog wrote: »

Has Karius been confirmed as starting?

Honestly I'd probably have Mignolet in there quicker, better the devil you know etc...

Nobody likes a copycat!

Harry Palmr

With the dead balls and crosses being the weakest aspect of Liverpool's game I'd expect/hope Matip and Klavan to be in front of Karius. It's very bad to starting picking and dropping keepers - more than any other position they need to be picked until they are so bad they have to be dropped or injured otherwise developing a coherent understanding in that triangle is almost impossible.

Riesen_Meal

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Nobody likes a copycat!

Just saw that, apologies, it's Sunday and I'm still not fully alive at 4:25PM...

Agent Coulson

So who do we think will start in goal?


We have to keepers who might have a mare but it wouldn't be a good idea to start yoyoing them now.

For better or worse it's stick with Karius time now I think.

Riesen_Meal

Agent Coulson wrote: »

For better or worse it's stick with Karius time now I think.

Mignolet has done this match enough times at this stage, I think it may be a bit much to put Karius in...

I'm kind of thinking of De Gea howlers in early days, it will probably take a bit of time for Karius to settle, it will be interesting to see who Klopp goes with, I won't question his decision...

redzerdrog

Easy decision to stick with Karius in my opinion. The better the devil you know argument doesn't really work when you know that devil isn't good enough

Harry Palmr

That defeat to Burnley looks worse with every passing week.

Potential Underachiever

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That defeat to Burnley looks worse with every passing week.

They're decent at home, beat us and Everton and Arsenal robbed them in the last minute, they seem crap away, we'll make em pay at Anfield!

Klopp won't drop karius ..... karius will be between the sticks unless he goes through a horrible spell worse than anything Mig has done.

Iused2likebusts

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That defeat to Burnley looks worse with every passing week.

They are a home and away team. They have conceded just 3 goals in 5 home games. 2 of those with the last kick of the game. Their limitations get exposed away from home. The last time they were in the PL utd spurs and city all failed to score there. Its a tough place to go arsenal created hardly any chances against them the other week. They are shocking away from home though.

Riesen_Meal

I think Klopp gas gone with Karius by the looks of his Facebook page:

https://m.facebook.com/loriskarius/photos/a.186327048058088.47475.185688741455252/1318819291475519/?type=3&fs=1

Not sure if you need to be on FB to see it...

martyos121

Fieldog wrote: »

I think Klopp gas gone with Karius by the looks of his Facebook page:

https://m.facebook.com/loriskarius/photos/a.186327048058088.47475.185688741455252/1318819291475519/?type=3&fs=1

Not sure if you need to be on FB to see it...

I believe in his talents but I hope he's careful under the high ball. #YNWA

Talisman

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So who do we think will start in goal?


We have to keepers who might have a mare but it wouldn't be a good idea to start yoyoing them now.

For better or worse it's stick with Karius time now I think.

Agreed. It would be great if we could field an unchanged back 5 for a run of games to properly bed in the defence and keeper.

vs Derby : Karius, Clyne, Moreno, Klavan, Matip
vs Hull : Karius, Clyne, Milner, Klavan, Matip
vs Swansea : Karius, Clyne, Milner, Lovren, Matip

I haven't checked but I don't think we have started the same back 5 in two consecutive games yet this season.

garra

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I would be nervous of Karius coming for crosses, he doesn't seem confident enough as yet.

Bit of a vampire thing going on, hating crosses and killer hair.

Vicxas

God im so nervous for tomorrow. Utd games always give me butterflies, and this one seems to be the most tense in years.

garra

Vicxas wrote: »

God im so nervous for tomorrow. Utd games always give me butterflies, and this one seems to be the most tense in years.

It's because we are favorites, we have something to lose and would be especially bad to lose to smug puss in charge of that lot.
I hope we don't start like we did against Swansea, and perhaps the prolonged break from Int duty will help in terms of energy levels. If we start well I don't think we will lose.
Would favour Lucas in this one, shielding in front of Ibra with Matip and Lovren behind. I hope Mourinho is not adventurous (unlikely) and keeps the quicker / younger players on the bench. In that case the 2 of Hendo/Coutinho pressing ahead of Lucas and Firmino Sturidge and Mane will be too much for em.

mosstin

garra wrote: »

It's because we are favorites, we have something to lose and would be especially bad to lose to smug puss in charge of that lot.
I hope we don't start like we did against Swansea, and perhaps the prolonged break from Int duty will help in terms of energy levels. If we start well I don't think we will lose.
Would favour Lucas in this one, shielding in front of Ibra with Matip and Lovren behind. I hope Mourinho is not adventurous (unlikely) and keeps the quicker / younger players on the bench. In that case the 2 of Hendo/Coutinho pressing ahead of Lucas and Firmino Sturidge and Mane will be too much for em.

I don't know what it is to experience confidence going in against this lot. Awful thing to have but there ya go. I think it's that defeat hurts so much against them that I refuse to get my hopes up too much.

internelligent

The only time I was confident of a win was 13/14.

MD1990

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/klopp-insists-no-concerns-karius-12033927

Karius to start tomorrow.

K-9

martyos121 wrote: »

I believe in his talents but I hope he's careful under the high ball. #YNWA

Apparently from his stats he's best sticking to his line for crosses because he's crap dealing with them.

Was feeling confident until I listened to the Under Pressure Podcast about our defending crosses stats, not good with United, Palace and Brom coming up.

martyos121

K-9 wrote: »

Apparently from his stats he's best sticking to his line for crosses because he's crap dealing with them.

Was feeling confident until I listened to the Under Pressure Podcast about our defending crosses stats, not good with United, Palace and Brom coming up.

I was only taking the piss out of the comments in that FB link with that. :pac:

Didnt know that though, that's an important skill for a goalkeeper and if he's that bad at it, I'd be seriously hoping he puts massive work into that area. Look at the way Courtois and Neuer come for crosses and start counter attacks, it's crucial to have a keeper who's good in the air these days.

mada999

Worried about Utd's height tonight.. Fellani will come in also... I think we'll need to score 2 to win this match as I think Utd will deffo score from a corner

NukaCola

Think I'll give that match thread a miss......I never really enjoy these games, its a bit weird as these should be the most exciting, but even when we win I can only enjoy it when the game is finished, always on edge with them.......

Anyway as long as we dont lose I'll be happy enough, I feel we have more than enough to beat them but you can never really predict these games...

x43r0

Klopp spent his Sunday morning off watching youth football in Liverpool

https://twitter.com/Ollie_Cowan/status/787691289508769796

K-9

K-9 wrote: »

Apparently from his stats he's best sticking to his line for crosses because he's crap dealing with them..............

If that's the case we should really see Utd playing plenty balls to Ibra' and Fellaini. No harm to see how we cope with it.

As the season goes on teams will look for ways to nullify our strengths so we might well need to deal with teams that have an aerial attack option.

Fitz*

Karius. Clyne. Matip. Lovren. Moreno. Can. Milner. Henderson. Coutinho. Mane. Firmino.


Seen this is a rumoured team. Can understand trying to get height & strength into the team but moving Milner to CM from LB is a bit of a change. He was doing well at LB too. Moreno....well we all know what to expect there. plenty energy & width but headless. perhaps Klopp thinks we can get at Valencia on that side attack wise?

MD1990

If both Wijnaldum & Lallana are out I can see Milner being moved to CM. Klopp probably wants someone who can cover huge distances 11-12KM & Lucas would not be able to do that not sure if Grujic can either. Also Moreno would have the pace to deal with Rashford if he was out on the right or Lingard.

BullBlackNova

FitzShane wrote: »

Karius. Clyne. Matip. Lovren. Moreno. Can. Milner. Henderson. Coutinho. Mane. Firmino.


Seen this is a rumoured team. Can understand trying to get height & strength into the team but moving Milner to CM from LB is a bit of a change. He was doing well at LB too. Moreno....well we all know what to expect there. plenty energy & width but headless. perhaps Klopp thinks we can get at Valencia on that side attack wise?

I hope not, but I can understand why Klopp might go for it.
Realistically, Moreno should be able to slot in at left-back and do Milner's job, Milner into Lallana's role and Can into Wijnaldums. Means less adjustment for the rest of the players and keeps our in form attack intact.
Adding in Lucas, Stewart, Grujic, Sturridge, etc would see a few players moved around all parts of the team disrupted.
And, as you say, maybe the plan is to get Moreno in at Valencia to try create opportunities?
A big strength for United is their crossing and their height - we will need to keep crossing to a minimum if we can...
Not saying I necessarily agree with the decision (if its this one that Klopp goes for) but I can see the logic behind it.

Utopia Parkway

NukaCola wrote: »

Think I'll give that match thread a miss

It's already a train wreck and the game is still 8 hours away.

Harry Palmr

Any comments I make on the match will be in here until it's over.

Agent Coulson

If that is the team it makes sense not to break up the front 3 unless one of them in injured.

Milner is a very good replacement for Lallana as he too can run all day.

Can then steps in for Wijnaldum.

Starting Moreno makes no huge difference to the defence because even when he doesn't play we still concede goals.

NukaCola

Huge opportunity for Moreno if he starts tonight.....I fear the worst personally, in an emotional high pressure game all I can predict is he'll lose the head a few times but I hope to be proven wrong......not a fan of Milner in CM but I'm sure Klopp has his plan mapped out well.....

Huge game with a big chance to lay down the marker early into the season about how Klopp and the team want to progress, but at the end of the day a bad result should not mean panic.

After tonight we'll have played all but Manchester City in last seasons top 5 once already in 8 games and regardless of the result we'll be on at least 2 ppg. Thats pretty decent taking into consideration our start.

All that being said I would still hate to be beaten though :pac:.....

FitzShane

FitzShane wrote: »

Karius. Clyne. Matip. Lovren. Moreno. Can. Milner. Henderson. Coutinho. Mane. Firmino.


Seen this is a rumoured team. Can understand trying to get height & strength into the team but moving Milner to CM from LB is a bit of a change. He was doing well at LB too. Moreno....well we all know what to expect there. plenty energy & width but headless. perhaps Klopp thinks we can get at Valencia on that side attack wise?

Wouldn't like to see Milner moved. He's doing well. If needs must I guess

murpho999

Can't see Moreno starting tonight. He does not have the temperament for a game like this.

Also, having been out for a while, he would be over-zealous to make an impression but it will inevitably be a bad one.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Can't see Moreno starting tonight. He does not have the temperament for a game like this.

Also, having been out for a while, he would be over-zealous to make an impression but it will inevitably be a bad one.

Like being awarded a penalty and not knowing what do it, so just pass it back to the keeper!

Utopia Parkway

FitzShane wrote: »

Karius. Clyne. Matip. Lovren. Moreno. Can. Milner. Henderson. Coutinho. Mane. Firmino.


Seen this is a rumoured team. Can understand trying to get height & strength into the team but moving Milner to CM from LB is a bit of a change. He was doing well at LB too. Moreno....well we all know what to expect there. plenty energy & width but headless. perhaps Klopp thinks we can get at Valencia on that side attack wise?

Don't want to see Moreno in a big game. And if he plays you can be sure United will target him.

sword1

Hope this is the week leaking the team has been building up to gini and lallana are not confirmed out are they ?

LuckyLloyd

NukaCola wrote: »

Huge opportunity for Moreno if he starts tonight.....I fear the worst personally, in an emotional high pressure game all I can predict is he'll lose the head a few times but I hope to be proven wrong......not a fan of Milner in CM but I'm sure Klopp has his plan mapped out well.....

Huge game with a big chance to lay down the marker early into the season about how Klopp and the team want to progress, but at the end of the day a bad result should not mean panic.

After tonight we'll have played all but Manchester City in last seasons top 5 once already in 8 games and regardless of the result we'll be on at least 2 ppg. Thats pretty decent taking into consideration our start.

All that being said I would still hate to be beaten though :pac:.....

Tonight is far from do or die, I completely agree. It is the kind of game that builds or scuttles momentum however, and is an 'occasion' match under lights on a Monday evening. A loss is going to hurt, make no mistake.

There is no way Klopp is starting Moreno in this IMO.
Completely a non runner.

Fitz*

sword1 wrote: »

Hope this is the week leaking the team has been building up to gini and lallana are not confirmed out are they ?

Perhaps.

There hasn't been much leaking of the team under Klopp, has there. The again, most of our games have been early KOs

FitzShane

FitzShane wrote: »

Perhaps.

There hasn't been much leaking of the team under Klopp, has there. The again, most of our games have been early KOs

This season there's either been a bit of it or some correct guessing.

Iused2likebusts

FitzShane wrote: »

Perhaps.

There hasn't been much leaking of the team under Klopp, has there. The again, most of our games have been early KOs

Its regularly getting posted correctly on a lot of the fantasy football forums.

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Tonight is far from do or die, I completely agree. It is the kind of game that builds or scuttles momentum however, and is an 'occasion' match under lights on a Monday evening. A loss is going to hurt, make no mistake.

Yep for sure.

Everyone obviously wants to win but losing while not a disaster would definitely be a blow.

A draw wouldn't upset me whatsoever

Agent Coulson

A draw is probably the most likely result.

citytillidie

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Its regularly getting posted correctly on a lot of the fantasy football forums.

Because the side is becoming more settled and it is easier to guess who will start the game

livinginkorea

Jayus, Moreno won't start tonight lads, no fecking way! I would prefer James to stay put and add Lucas as cover with Can as the muscle in the center of the park.

Utopia Parkway

Not difficult to see how United could get a decent result out of this game. Mourinho knows how to set up a team to go away from home and defend, break up play and frustrate the home side. De Gea could do De Gea things and make a number of great saves. And United have some very big players in their side so are going to be a threat from set-pieces.

Hopefully we can start fast, use the energy from the crowd and get ahead.