Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Osmosis Jones

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

How's his work rate?, classy player like, but he best be able to bust his bollox for 90 minutes.

Definitely doesn't have the defensive stats to match our lads but that's mainly because it's not how West Ham play. Any time I've watched him, including against us, he's been a willing running and very aggressive to get the ball back.

niallo27

NukaCola wrote: »

Danny looked sharp enough when he came on.....could have had a few also, thought he done quite well.
Karius also had a good game but wasn't really tested, same with Lucas at CB.

Why isn't he getting injured anymore. Was a lot of it in his head.

Vicxas

Absolutely delighted with today's result. And also delighted with everyone sharing the goals.

Alonso77

Alonso77 wrote: »

Massive test of our mentality now knowing we can go top. Will be a big indicator of our progress today.

Test passed with flying colours

RoboKlopp

RoboKlopp wrote: »

No match thread for Swansea Utd game. Times are changing

You must be so upset. No where to spout your knowledge except the Liverpool thread

Alonso77

M!Ck^ wrote: »

You must be so upset. No where to spout your "knowledge" except the Liverpool thread

Says the man whose first instinct is to post in the Liverpool thread following a utd win.

Gbear

NukaCola wrote: »

Yea, clinical might not be the correct word but in terms of goals scored we are clinical enough.....I wont get into the semantics of it but we are top scorers in the league and while we dont score in every attack, who does?

I think volume and quality of chances we create is like nothing else in the league.
I don't know of a time when we were ever this good while being so profligate.

There were periods under Rodgers and Kenny when we were making loads of chances, hitting the woodwork a lot, but we weren't doing that and being top of the league.

I think it's most important that we're creating lots of easy goals as a team. The work goin on in the training field and the chemistry between the whole front 6 is excellent and that's got staying power, whereas just being based around a talented 1 or 2 doesn't.
It's the most important step to us being a top attacking team.

If we had a top class striker I think we'd be getting talked of as definite favourites for the league even with our defensive problems.

Currently we're spreading the goals around really evenly. I can't think of any team that's ever done that for the whole season, and certainly not to the level that we'd need to compensate for our defence.
Can we get 50+ league goals split between Firmino, Coutinho and Mane? At the rate they're going we won't be far off. It's tough to expect it for the whole season though.
That reliable top class goalscorer, who doesn't need us to necessarily be playing to the level we currently are to get us over the line, is all we're missing from an attacking sense.
If we keep playing to this level, even with injuries and Mane buggering off to Africa, then so much the better, but usually teams need to mitigate against that kind of thing to win titles.

We have never at any stage in my life been in this position in an attacking sense. It's always been a case of overeliance on a few individuals.
To have got there this quickly is brilliant mangement by Klopp.

Alonso77

Alonso77 wrote: »

Says the man whose first instinct is to post in the Liverpool thread following a utd win.

Doesn't happen too often the last few years.

Great day!

martyos121

M!Ck^ wrote: »

You must be so upset. No where to spout your knowledge except the Liverpool thread

Alonso77 wrote: »

Says the man whose first instinct is to post in the Liverpool thread following a utd win.

Ah he got ya good there Mick!

Charlie19

Most Points.
Most Wins.
Most Goals.
Most Goals from inside the box.
Most Goals from outside the box.
Most Shots.
Most Passes.
Most Distance covered.

Most Lovely.

least amount of clean sheets.

martyos121

martyos121 wrote: »

Ah he got ya good there Mick!

Disagree marty, but I'm fighting a loosing battle in here anyway :P

marklazarcovic

we are good at the football

Osmosis Jones

5 goals and 6 assists for Coutinho in the league this season, which translates to a goal or assist every 71 minutes.

Not to mention Firmino with 5 goals 5 assists, and Mane with another 6 goals.

martyos121

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Disagree marty, but I'm fighting a loosing battle in here anyway :P

A ballsy move to jump in here after we win though, have to give (a tiny amount of) credit for that.

hefferboi

Missed the game, how did Can play??

NukaCola

niallo27 wrote: »

Why isn't he getting injured anymore. Was a lot of it in his head.

Dunno tbh, not getting enough game time, plenty of rest, may be over some of the injuries.....

Buford T. Justice XIX

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

5 goals and 6 assists for Coutinho in the league this season, which translates to a goal or assist every 71 minutes.

Not to mention Firmino with 5 goals 5 assists, and Mane with another 6 goals.

But he's no Martial or someone, so they say.

In fairness, he's helped a lot by the movement of the others not allowing him to get stuck taking on two defenders very often.

SuperTortoise

hefferboi wrote: »

Missed the game, how did Can play??

Misplaced 2 or 3 passes in the opening 15 mins but that aside he was very good.

NukaCola

Anyone hear the chants of "If we still had Suarez he'd be on the bench" from the crowd today?......

Osmosis Jones

Also there's not nearly enough love for Gini Wijnaldum in here, delighted for him getting his first goal today.

BMMachine

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Disagree marty, but I'm fighting a loosing battle in here anyway :P

need them wins

niallo27

NukaCola wrote: »

Dunno tbh, not getting enough game time, plenty of rest, may be over some of the injuries.....

Or was it klopp telling him to cop the **** on and get playing football.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Or was it klopp telling him to cop the **** on and get playing football.

I'd really doubt that.
Not as many minutes means less chance of picking up injuries.

BorneTobyWilde

Lucas was invisible throughout.
Great showing at back.
I did not notice a thing wrong

Utopia Parkway

hefferboi wrote: »

Missed the game, how did Can play??

Started terribly giving the ball away constantly for the first 10 minutes but improved a lot after that. He often seems to start games slowly for some reason.

Gbear

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lucas was invisible throughout.
Great showing at back.
I did not notice a thing wrong

He did nearly murder one of Watfords forwards with a lunge but a mixture of his boyish charms and the amount of time the ball spent in play after the advantage given meant he got away with it.

Utopia Parkway

Great thing about this Liverpool team is everyone is creating and scoring goals. Firmino with 1 goal and 2 assists today. Coutinho with 1 goal and 1 assist. Lallana with 2 assists. Mane with 2 goals. Can with a goal. Wijnaldum with a goal. Last game both centre-halves scored.

Kerrigooney

Gbear wrote: »

He did nearly murder one of Watfords forwards with a lunge but a mixture of his boyish charms and the amount of time the ball spent in play after the advantage given meant he got away with it.

I winced when I saw that. If he made contact it was a straight red.

TitianGerm

Great result today.

https://youtu.be/Xu9YjlZkCtw

Harry Palmr

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

5 goals and 6 assists for Coutinho in the league this season, which translates to a goal or assist every 71 minutes.

Not to mention Firmino with 5 goals 5 assists, and Mane with another 6 goals.

The "front three" have scored 18 times and assisted 18 times. Unit!

Gbear

Gbear wrote: »

He did nearly murder one of Watfords forwards with a lunge but a mixture of his boyish charms and the amount of time the ball spent in play after the advantage given meant he got away with it.

I'd class the likes of that as sh1t happens / it's football

No player has the perfect game every game.

Lucas did well today at CB for us and I dread seeing his name on the teamsheet at CB (or anywhere really tbh)

mosstin

Only downside to this Liverpool team is that you can't have 4 of them in your FF team.

Agent Coulson

mosstin wrote: »

Only downside to this Liverpool team is that you can't have 4 of them in your FF team.

Front 3 are in mine and I swap the captain between them each week all considered midfielders for FF as well which is even better.

54and56

mosstin wrote: »

Only downside to this Liverpool team is that you can't have 4 of them in your FF team.

No, but when you've Mane, Coutinho and Firmino in your "midfield" it feels good.

Harry Palmr

If Liverpool should have the title wrapped up with at least one game to spare (yes yes I know!) I'd love to see

---

Karius
Clyne---Matip--Lovren--Moreno

---

Can
--Mane----Firmino---Coutinho

---

Sturridge--Origi

and just go for it!

NukaCola

niallo27 wrote: »

Or was it klopp telling him to cop the **** on and get playing football.

Couldn't say, Danny has been handled well IMO being reintroduced to the team after injury, not rushed back, minutes have been managed well, I'm not a sport scientist so not sure what else is being done tbh.

He has lost his place since though but we dont miss him as much as we did. I doubt Klopp says much to him on injuries really, he has built a different type of attack, whether thats a result of not trusting Danny or not being able to rely on him or just having other players more suited to his plans than Sturridge is anyones guess i suppose.

Agent Coulson

I haven't felt this confident in a Liverpool team since Rafa was regulatory getting us top 4 in the mid/late noughties.

BorneTobyWilde

On this day in 1986 Alex Ferguson was appoint manager at United, so it's ironic that we find ourselves on the perch today, at the top.

BoJack Horseman

Another win and top of the table for the next two weeks.

Makes the international break much more bearable.

Knex*

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If Liverpool should have the title wrapped up with at least one game to spare (yes yes I know!) I'd love to see

---

Karius
Clyne---Matip--Lovren--Moreno

---

Can
--Mane----Firmino---Coutinho

---

Sturridge--Origi

and just go for it!

For God sake, Harry! :pac:

MD1990

It would be great if Mane could retire from International football.

sabat

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If Liverpool should have the title wrapped up with at least one game to spare (yes yes I know!) I'd love to see

---

Karius
Clyne---Matip--Lovren--Moreno

---

Can
--Mane----Firmino---Coutinho

---

Sturridge--Origi

and just go for it!

Nice line-up but I'd have Grujic and Lucas at centre half and Sakho in goal.

Harry Palmr

sabat wrote: »

Nice line-up but I'd have Grujic and Lucas at centre half and Sakho in goal.

I was thinking about Mignolet but didn't want to push it.

marklazarcovic

Quite funny I think

Potential Underachiever

Not bad eh!


https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/795303391757008897

martyos121

I'm disgusted with our wastefulness today. That conversion rate has to be relegation form.

Agent Coulson

Record Breakers. (We can still use this 80's BBC show as reference can't we?)One of the few BBC shows from my childhood not tainted by scandal.

https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/795303391757008897

17 - Liverpool recorded more shots on target today than any other team has managed in a PL match since Opta records began (2003-04). Top.

corwill

That 'meg/assist from Bobster for the 5th...

mosstin

Our chance creation is quite jawdropping. In a normal game, when a team misses a few early chances - as we did - you'd think 'They'll regret missing those' - but with this team, you just think that there's a plethora of other chances coming regardless. It is remarkable to watch.

Harry Palmr

mosstin wrote: »

Our chance creation is quite jawdropping. In a normal game, when a team misses a few early chances - as we did - you'd think 'They'll regret missing those' - but with this team, you just think that there's a plethora of other chances coming regardless. It is remarkable to watch.

During the commentary on Sky the lead voice opined two or three times just that sort of thing, what was even more stupid was that he was saying it after only 15 mins, by the 28th Liverpool were 2-0 up. You could see the squeeze being applied (this goes back to what was being talked about here yesterday) Klopp's Liverpool are not full on for 90 mins they work in phases gradually applying pressure until they breakthrough, once Mane scored I was confident of a win.

Oh yes for those who likes the "par" system, mini table