Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Agent Coulson

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

This is from a couple of years ago.

UEFA President, Michel Platini, threatened to punish Franck Ribéry if he refuses to play for the French National team. In an interview with the German Newspaper, Bild, Platini stated that according to the FIFA Statutes Ribéry must answer Didier Dechamps call if chosen to play. “If he does not come, he is suspended for three games with Bayern Munich,” said Platini to Marc Schmidt at Bild.

http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/09/07/franck-ribery-will-face-suspension-if-he-refuses-to-play-for-french-national-team/




The rule is there whether or not it's ever been used I don't know.

BullBlackNova

Ciano35 wrote: »

Matip saying he's going to stay at Liverpool during the African cup:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joel-matip-stay-liverpool-go-11893825

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isn't there a rule if a player refuses a call up for his Country they can block him from playing for his club while those internationals are being played.

Jesus, surely not? That seems like a mental rule!!

Anyway, you wouldn't expect Matip to play in the AFCON - he's had a self-imposed exile from international duty for about a year hasn't he?

We will lose Sadio Mané, though, but we won't be hit as badly as some sides. Leicester I think will lose 3 or 4 first teamers if I'm right - Mahrez, Slimani, Schlupp and Amartey? Everton too, actually, with Bolasie, Gueye, Koné...

Knex*

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

And now we have our second nominee for calling in dead.

Just tell them later on that something has come up, but you're hoping to catch up with them after the meal. Grayditch makes a solid point above, to be honest.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

I can't see anything but a liverpool win tomorrow. This game is made for the counter.

Yup, Chelsea will just play to our strengths :pac:

I'm less than confident of us keeping a clean sheet so we are in score 2 or 3 times to have a chance of 3 pts territory.....

NukaCola

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

I'd say it's like the police being required to cover you having a dump in public rule.... questionable if it exists and never enforced.

Old saying, club before country comes to mind.

Such a rule can be bypassed by periods of international football "retirement" as required in any case.

Cartman78

Grayditch wrote: »

That's like working outside of work, see ya after. If she's leaving she wont be there to hold it against you next week.

See how great with people I am?

With you on this one....am allergic to work events outside working hours.

And don't get me started on being practically force-fed cake every five minutes...."C'mon...it's Dave's 37th birthday", "We're having cake to celebrate Angela's new hairstyle" etc.

Anyway, back on topic, will be firing up the laptop and dodgy websites tonight. Will be disappointed if we don't win tbh.

Milkers

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

And the even bigger clowns who don't want to go but go anyway :pac:

J Mysterio

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

Get your priorities straight!

TitianGerm

Milkers wrote: »

And the even bigger clowns who don't want to go but go anyway :pac:

But free food and drink

I have the game recording so I'll be avoiding you fine gentlemen and watching the match later :P

ArmaniJeanss

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Jesus, surely not? That seems like a mental rule!!

Augeo wrote: »

I'd say it's like the police being required to cover you having a dump in public rule.... questionable if it exists and never enforced.

Such a rule can be bypassed by periods of international football "retirement" as required in any case.

When explained its actually an ok rule (and kind of necessary) and 'retirements' aren't a way to get around it.

What the rule stops is players (usually mid20s journeymen from low-profile countries unlikely to win anything) coming under financial pressure not to play international football, with clubs hinting that their next 3K a week contract could be slightly bumped if they aren't jetting off to Bolivia, Panama or Zaire 8 times a year.
With this rule in place theres no point in clubs attempting to make such conditions as players can/must travel regardless.

Mr.H

Are you guys kidding?

The international rule is always used. Anytime a player declares themselves "injured" for international duty they are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals.

It's to stop trams from pretending their players are injured just to keep them for important games. There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though. The August international use to be the one that caught a lot of players

corwill

Mr.H wrote: »

Are you guys kidding?

The international rule is always used. Anytime a player declares themselves "injured" for international duty they are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals.

It's to stop trams from pretending their players are injured just to keep them for important games. There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though. The August international use to be the one that caught a lot of players

The Luas are feckers for it, in fairness.

marklazarcovic

He can just retire from international duty,and come out of retirement when it suits

ArmaniJeanss

marklazarcovic wrote: »

He can just retire from international duty,and come out of retirement when it suits

There is no such getout clause as international retirement for the reasons I gave in my post above. If a country wants to call up a player who has retired from internationals then they can, and the players either turns up or else doesn't play for his club during the time of the call-up.

Most of the time its not an issue as retirements are usually on good terms.

Milkers

Something tells me the first time a footballer decides to challenge that in the European Court of Human Rights under right-to-work laws will be the last time FIFA or UEFA try to pull that stunt.

NukaCola

Mr.H wrote: »

Are you guys kidding?
The international rule is always used.
There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though.

So its always used when it rarely happens :pac:

If you just dont want to play for your country I wasn't aware you could be suspended from playing for your club. I know players get "injured" and dont fancy an away friendly or whatever etc but If its a case you simply do not want to play its fairly mad to me that you cant play for the team that pays your bills. Technically you cant retire from International football either which seems mad.

8-10

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

Agent Coulson

Steak, Chips, Beer & Whiskey all sorted now for Friday Night Football what a time to be alive.

ArmaniJeanss

8-10 wrote: »

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

CameroonFA and their manager have expressed disappointment etc over those rejected callups, but haven't gone the nuclear option of insisting.

Best example of it becoming a big issue was Domenech/Makelele/Mourinho 10 years ago. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2344514/I-am-no-slave-says-Makelele.html

NukaCola

8-10 wrote: »

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

I'm not sure how this really works but apparently you are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals if called up and the Leicester game was 4 days after the Cameroon game.

The issue is during the ACON, games will clash within that 3 day rule. I think anyway, I may be way off here.

8-10

NukaCola wrote: »

I'm not sure how this really works but apparently you are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals if called up and the Leicester game was 4 days after the Cameroon game.

The issue is during the ACON, games will clash within that 3 day rule. I think anyway, I may be way off here.

Ah ok thanks that makes sense. Could always get Steven Caulker on a sneaky January loan.

DaveSuarez

8-10 wrote: »

Ah ok thanks that makes sense. Could always get Steven Caulker on a sneaky January loan.

We have enough strikers mate

Agent Coulson

So Sturridge is the most superstitious player for some reason I'm not surprised


Milner is the prankster now that does surprise.

martyos121

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So Sturridge is the most superstitious player for some reason I'm not surprised


Milner is the prankster now that does surprise.

Wonder what sort of crazy antics Milner does get up to in the dressing room. Spiking the team drinks with ketamine? Putting thumbtacks in someone's boots? Swapping the shorts with ones which are a slightly darker shade of red?

Safe to say it's probably the last one.

Agent Coulson

martyos121 wrote: »

Wonder what sort of crazy antics Milner does get up to in the dressing room. Spiking the team drinks with ketamine? Putting thumbtacks in someone's boots? Swapping the shorts with ones which are a slightly darker shade of red?

Safe to say it's probably the last one.

Pretty sure it's hiding Sturridge's bibles.

Agent Coulson

Carra doing his best to hurt Mane the bastard.

martyos121

Firmino out due to illness, huge loss.

Buford T. Justice XIX

#LFC team to face @ChelseaFC: Mignolet, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge #CFCvLFC



https://twitter.com/LFC/status/776843000433565696

mormank

martyos121 wrote: »

Firmino out due to illness, huge loss.

I just came on here to say the same thing. No Firminho makes me a little worried about this game tbh, he really has been our most influential player for the past 12 months or so, certainly in terms of end product at least imo.

8-10

martyos121 wrote: »

Firmino out due to illness, huge loss.

Groin strain, no?

Pro. F

NukaCola wrote: »

I'm not sure how this really works but apparently you are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals if called up and the Leicester game was 4 days after the Cameroon game.

The issue is during the ACON, games will clash within that 3 day rule. I think anyway, I may be way off here.

I seem to remember the ACON isn't fully recognised by FIFA, or something like that, so that rule might not apply.

Or I might have just imagined this.

martyos121

8-10 wrote: »

Groin strain, no?

Is it? Shreeves said he was unwell so I assumed he was ill. Either way, it's only a short term thing because a groin strain heals quickly so he'll be back for next weekend at the latest.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Win this for Luis...

Pepp1989

Is it just me or does this game feel huge. Bigger than a usual Chelsea Liverpool. I think it'll be a real marker of where we are at.

Agent Coulson

Firmino and Coutinho have been called up by Brazil for the next round of WC qualifiers

~Rebel~

martyos121 wrote: »

Is it? Shreeves said he was unwell so I assumed he was ill. Either way, it's only a short term thing because a groin strain heals quickly so he'll be back for next weekend at the latest.

Hopefully illness rather than groin...groin can be quick, but can also be a ****in' nightmare. Missed 5 months myself before with a serious one.

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Firmino and Coutinho have been called up by Brazil for the next round of WC qualifiers

One_Of_Shanks

Firminho would have started as the lone forward and usually we do well in big away games when he does so he's a big loss imo.
We usually flow better in games like this with him there.

Sturridge is a belting player, don't get me wrong, but I think Firminho is a blow to us.

Still, good team aside from that and lets hope Sturridge works his balls off like he did against Leicester coz he'll certainly need to.

Heart says we'll nick it, head says score draw. Feck the head! (oh Matron!)

Agent Coulson

I wonder who will do the running for Sturridge & Coutinho now that Firmino isn't there to do it for them.

Agent Coulson

This has the Burnley feeling to it have 70% possession and get caught on the counter.

jcsoulinger

Never heard such a subdued response to a goal from a commentator, bias much?

One_Of_Shanks

That was a very sexy finish by Lovren.

Any striker worth his salt would be proud of that one. Arm up asking for the pass, saw it coming, tucked it in.

Must have borrowed Sakho's stash for the night!

Agent Coulson

Matip turning into Hansen

Agent Coulson

So has Henderson do anything all game :P

charolais0153

What a ****ing goal. Gerrard esque

One_Of_Shanks

Fcuk sake Sakho. Must have been passing them around like sweets! Coz Henderson doesnt do that too often either.

J Mysterio

Captain Fantastic.

Goal of the season.

Fowler87

****ing unreal strike. Welcome back Hendo :cool:

J Mysterio

Both commentators on Sky Sports are sick!

Hahahahahahahhaha

Agent Coulson

The whole team telling Migs to calm down and slow down and hold onto the ball