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Got the cartell report from the dealer

  • 08-08-2016 3:30pm
    #1
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭


    normally I would do this myself but the dealer printed it out and handed it to me while I was standing there.
    There is nothing in it that raises and eyebrow so should I just trust it vs the one I'd get myself ?
    the free check verifies its the same car


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  • #2
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I've seen a few dealers mentioning this on Done Deal recently. I say for the sake of a few euro, better off to look it up yourself and see if the reports match.


  • #3
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,517 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Not saying they did but it wouldn't take much to falsify a paper report to have it show what you wanted it to, for peace of mind always get one done yourself.


  • #4
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,339 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Paper never refused ink. Just make sure your 100% on what the warranty covers.


  • #5
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    normally I would do this myself but the dealer printed it out and handed it to me while I was standing there.
    There is nothing in it that raises and eyebrow so should I just trust it vs the one I'd get myself ?
    the free check verifies its the same car

    If I remember correctly, each report can be accessed online for a few days with a unique URL. You could ask for that URL and verify yourself online.


  • #6
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    i did a report via the uk hpi site it matched up completely. the only thing none of them do is give you an MOT history - but that can be done for free via the MOT site.
    Only afterwards I noticed the time the report for the car was generated was the exact time I was in the office with him, so he'd have had to be fairly quick to falsify anything !
    the car is outside the door here now, I suppose I can say I did everything I could.

    thanks for the input


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  • #7
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    If one is to falsify the report, why not the generation time as well to look more genuine?


  • #8
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    grogi wrote: »
    If one is to falsify the report, why not the generation time as well to look more genuine?

    I can see its not printed from word etc its from the cartell site. so you think he has created an application on his machine to generate false Cartell reports ?

    remember I was standing there looking at him. he wasnt fiddling about, typing in times, reg plate, make model


  • #9
    BrookieD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    grogi wrote: »
    If one is to falsify the report, why not the generation time as well to look more genuine?

    I can see its not printed from word etc its from the cartell site. so you think he has created an application on his machine to generate false Cartell reports ?

    remember I was standing there looking at him. he wasnt fiddling about, typing in times, reg plate, make model
    Its so easy to doctor what looks like a real report to contain false information. always best to check yourself for a few quid to be honest. if it all matches, cool, if not you may have missed a banger


  • #10
    ironclaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    I can see its not printed from word etc its from the cartell site. so you think he has created an application on his machine to generate false Cartell reports

    Pretty sure I could write this in less than a day. Some php and a PDF generating library would do it. Throw a developer a few euros and you sell more cars, pretty much a no brainer to be honest.

    CarTell et al should really add a unique ID to the report so that one can go online and access it themselves, including the Dealer name etc.


  • #11
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I very much doubt any dodgy car dealer has gone to anything like those lengths, I'd be amazed if the report isn't genuine to be honest.


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  • #12
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Pretty sure I could write this in less than a day. Some php and a PDF generating library would do it. Throw a developer a few euros and you sell more cars, pretty much a no brainer to be honest.

    CarTell et al should really add a unique ID to the report so that one can go online and access it themselves, including the Dealer name etc.

    That's what I got when I got my motorcheck report years ago:

    http://www.motorcheck.ie/report/04D53740/XVAJ3X

    It came with a reg number and unique identifier - and one could access it for 31 days for free. Nothing stopping the dealers from sharing such URL if buyer asks (I am pretty sure the the T&C of Motorcheck prohibit publicly (exp. in the ad) sharing it though).

    But if someone goes into trouble of faking the report application, they could also acquire a dummy domain like motocheck.ie, cartel.ie or somethning similar - and serve dummy reports from there as well. Buyers would not even notice the difference...


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