General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Barclay's form is poor so I suppose he'll break the deadlock.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Lukaku scores instead as he always does against west ham.

Burial.

Fantastic by Bolasie there

eagle eye

Robles is having some game.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Barkley scores, Bilic is done.

Paully D

West Ham tried to get Garcia in to replace Bilic but he chose Marseille instead.

Paully D

Too early to label Giannelli Imbula a bust but he signed for over £18m, had a torrid start to the season and now can't get into the Stoke side ahead of Cameron or Adam. It's not looking good.

Hughes was saying his lack of English is really making him struggle to settle in at the moment but he understands because he was in that position himself before too.

Maybe one to come back to this time next year.

blueser

Swansea look a poor side on tonight's showing. The winter is going to be a long slog for them, the Mackems and Hull.

Harry Palmr

Stoke are coming up the hill, no question. They were very slow to get going last season as well.

Paully D

blueser wrote: »

Swansea look a poor side on tonight's showing. The winter is going to be a long slog for them, the Mackems and Hull.

I think Hull and Sunderland are as good as down.

The remaining place then likely to be a shootout between Swansea, Burnley and 'Boro with Burnley the most likely IMO.

I don't think anyone else will really get seriously dragged into it.

TitianGerm

Paully D wrote: »

I think Hull and Sunderland are as good as down.

The remaining place then likely to be a shootout between Swansea, Burnley and 'Boro with Burnley the most likely IMO.

I don't think anyone else will really get seriously dragged into it.

Burnley to go down? I think they'll stay up. Seem very good at home and I think that'll go a long way.

Paully D

emmetkenny wrote: »

Burnley to go down? I think they'll stay up. Seem very good at home and I think that'll go a long way.

Yeah, I think they will. Superb effort thus far but Dyce just has no Plan B from his 4-4-2 which IMO hurts them and excellent goalkeeping displays have won them more points than anything else.

Of course there's nothing to say it won't keep working for them, but I think when the games start coming thick and fast over the festive period their lack of depth will be really tested and with the quality of their squad they are only 2 or 3 injuries away from disaster.

From January to the end of the season their home games are Southampton, Leicester, Chelsea, Spurs, Stoke, United, West Brom and West Ham. I'm just not sure how many points are there for them in that bunch and away from home they are a different side (this is mainly where Dyche's tactical incompetence kills them).

I feel they'll need to have a decent amount of points on the board by the turn of the year for them to have any sort of chance of not being in serious danger of relegation when all is said and done. Ultimately, I think they'll go after a brave effort.

Skylinehead

Paully D wrote: »

I think Hull and Sunderland are as good as down.

You say that every year without fail

Not looking good so far mind.

Frankie Lee

Paully D wrote: »

Yeah, I think they will. Superb effort thus far but Dyce just has no Plan B from his 4-4-2 which IMO hurts them and excellent goalkeeping displays have won them more points than anything else.

They have played 4-5-1 for most of this season so far.

rob316

Sunderland and Swansea are the two bankers for me at the moment. Cant understand what happened to Swansea, they were so well run for so long.

Turtwig

rob316 wrote: »

Sunderland and Swansea are the two bankers for me at the moment. Cant understand what happened to Swansea, they were so well run for so long.

Actually felt Guidolin had Swansea playing somewhat well. Their fixture list at was just hell. Early days for Bradley yet of course but it really seemed a premature sacking. Unless of course there was something going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to.

rob316

Turtwig wrote: »

Actually felt Guidolin had Swansea playing somewhat well. Their fixture list at was just hell. Early days for Bradley yet of course but it really seemed a premature sacking. Unless of course there was something going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to.

I watched the game against Liverpool, that was not a team that wasn't playing for their manager. They desperately lack quality though, Allen and Bony available this summer and they didn't even try to get them back. The loss of Williams was huge too, he was a rock.

Harry Palmr

Huw Jenkins seems to have gone from have the Midas touch to that of a fumbling teenager.

Harry Palmr

http://euroclubindex.com/asp/leagueodds.asp

worth comparing the Prem with other major top flights which are pretty much one team or two leagues.

http://euroclubindex.com/asp/Methodology.asp

Iused2likebusts

Frankie Lee wrote: »

They have played 4-5-1 for most of this season so far.

They have only played 451 with gray out suspended and away at Leicester. I was surprised he went back to 442 against utd. However they got good wins against Everton and Watford at home playing 451 so I think he will use it more often. Dyche never had the players to play 451 last time in premier. They tried to sign midfielders and couldn't get them in. Burnley isnt a great place to live and the wages they were offering meant championship players were turning them down. Marney and Jones were there only two cms and then marney got injured meaning arfield a winger had to play cm for the 2nd half of the season. It would have been a miracle if they stayed up last time around. I think they have a decent chance this time around as dyche now has some options.

Paully D

Sunderland's midfield for today's game away to Bournemouth:

Pienaar - McNair - Ndong - Watmore

Inexcusable.

eagle eye

Paully D wrote: »

Sunderland's midfield for today's game away to Bournemouth:

Pienaar - McNair - Ndong - Watmore

Inexcusable.

I fancy them today actually and I don't think it's a bad idea putting McNair and Ndong there if the idea is to counter which is a good plan imo against Bournemouth.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Paully D wrote: »

Sunderland's midfield for today's game away to Bournemouth:

Pienaar - McNair - Ndong - Watmore

Inexcusable.

Watmore do you want?

Trigger

Chelsea

And they are 1-0 down.. they really need to bring Big Sam back ASAP.. Moyes is devoid of any ideas

Paully D

astradave wrote: »

And they are 1-0 down.. they really need to bring Big Sam back ASAP.. Moyes is devoid of any ideas

Allardyce won't be happening unfortunately given how things ended. In any case I doubt he would take the job. Best case scenario presuming today ends in another defeat is that Sunderland are 8 points (plus goal difference) away from getting to safety. Lots of easier fixtures have been wasted too. It's virtually at the stage now where it's a lost cause and regardless of what went on with Sam at England, he will be eventually be able to get a better job if he holds tight.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Pardew could be available for the Sunderland soon

eagle eye

Fantastic ball from De Bruyne for Aguero to score. 1-0 City and it's unreal that it's only that, they could have had five in the first half.

Burial.

What a cross by De Bruyne. The vision to see that is staggering alone let alone the perfect delivery.

Mars Bar

Sunderland have somehow managed to take the lead!

Unearthly

Chelsea

Bournemouth player should have been sent off to

blueser

Does that co-commentator (Andrews, is it?) even know about the new rules regarding cards for giving away penalties? Going on about Smith being lucky he wasn't red carded.

Lumbo

Moyes out

super_furry

He's really on a hiding to nothing with Sunderland, but I'd like to see Moyes do well, especially after how he was treated at United.

Unearthly

Chelsea

blueser wrote: »

Does that co-commentator (Andrews, is it?) even know about the new rules regarding cards for giving away penalties? Going on about Smith being lucky he wasn't red carded.

Looks like I didn't either

blueser

Unearthly wrote: »

Bournemouth player should have been sent off to

If a penalty is conceded, then the "goalscoring opportunity" hasn't been denied as the attackers have the penalty. Therefore (AFAIAA), a yellow card is the punishment. If the foul happens outside the penalty area, a red card can be issued.

Er; I think!

Unearthly

Chelsea

blueser wrote: »

If a penalty is conceded, then the "goalscoring opportunity" hasn't been denied as the attackers have the penalty. Therefore (AFAIAA), a yellow card is the punishment. If the foul happens outside the penalty area, a red card can be issued.

Er; I think!

Yeah I think you are right. Makes sense to

Paully D

What a save from Jordan Pickford. Unbelievable. :eek:

blueser

Unearthly wrote: »

Yeah I think you are right. Makes sense to

I think the idea was to get rid of the "double jeopardy" element; the defending team being punished twice (the red card and the penalty) for the one offence. Not sure what happens if a defender blatantly handles the ball on the line though; presumably the same standard still applies.

eagle eye

I called it, go on Sunderland. I had a bet on them at 19/5 to win today.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Arsenal's year.

JoeA3

Fair play to Sunderland, Moyes finally gets a break.

Iused2likebusts

Last minute winner again for burnley.

rob316

Pardew has palace hurtling towards the relegation places again. Absolute fraud that man is.

Paully D

Hull (H) next up for Sunderland too. You can't realistically ask for a better fixture than that. The international break has just come at the wrong time now!

LuckyGent88

That was some mental last 10 mins across all the games.

Turtwig

How City drew that game is beyond me. Yet, Boro deserved the draw. They need really to become more clinical in finishing teams. They need far too many opportunities to score a goal. Against a more evenly matched defensive team they won't even get as many opportunities and knowing the peculiarity of this sport they'll probably convert all of them. But it seems fairer to think they won't.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Pardew will be under serious pressure now.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

3-1 chelsea.

niallo27

Tottenham

Bad tackle there. Could have been a red.

Chelsea

Hazzard can be disgustingly good at times