General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Kane has a Beckham moment.

Vital Transformation

Looked like a big divot on the penalty spot.

LuckyGent88

James ward prowse puts in brilliant free kicks and corners.

Unearthly

Chelsea

I remember some talk on here that the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity was gone if penalty is awarded.

Anyone want to route through the rulebook for me? Thanks

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Vital Transformation wrote: »

Looked like a big divot on the penalty spot.

Looked like he clipped the ball with his left peg before striking.

manutd

Players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.

Those include holding, pulling or pushing, not playing the ball, serious foul play, violent conduct or deliberate handball in order to deny a goalscoring opportunity.

Dean seen it has a deliberate foul.

Richard Hillman

Unearthly wrote: »

I remember some talk on here that the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity was gone if penalty is awarded.

Anyone want to route through the rulebook for me? Thanks

Don't have the rule book handy but from what I remember, if it's a clear opportunity and the foul was deemed to be deliberate or reckless its a red card. If you make a decent attempt at the ball that is genuine then just a yellow.

davycc

Manchester United

astradave wrote: »

Fantastic dive to win a peno and get Redmond sent off

Wonder where thats going to land

Redmond rugby tackled deli had both arms around deli dragged him down . If you don't think that was a penalty kick then watch the replay a couple more times.

What part of it was a dive in your opinion?

rwbug

Unearthly wrote: »

I remember some talk on here that the red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity was gone if penalty is awarded.

Anyone want to route through the rulebook for me? Thanks

"A foul on a running striker committed by the last man of the defence will no longer result in a direct red card and suspension, unless the foul is violent or consists in a hand-ball in the box. As long as the foul is judged to be an honest attempt at taking the ball, the defender will only be shown a yellow card."

niallo27

Tottenham

davycc wrote: »

Redmond rugby tackled deli had both arms around deli dragged him down . If you don't think that was a penalty kick then watch the replay a couple more times.

Just because its deli alli don't assume it was a dive ffs

He didn't even dive either in fairness he kept his feet to get his shot off. Good to see a pen given as he clearly stopped him getting a decent shot away.

Trigger

Chelsea

davycc wrote: »

Redmond rugby tackled deli had both arms around deli dragged him down . If you don't think that was a penalty kick then watch the replay a couple more times.

Just because its deli alli don't assume it was a dive ffs

Maybe you are the one that needs to see the replay a few times

https://twitter.com/productionsWF/status/814215456953401344

davycc

Manchester United

astradave wrote: »

Maybe you are the one that needs to see the replay a few times

https://twitter.com/productionsWF/status/814215456953401344

I know your not his biggest fan but
Which part of the link shows deli dive .?
I can't see any myself

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Hugo is not being a boss.

Vital Transformation

GreNoLi wrote: »

Looked like he clipped the ball with his left peg before striking.

His left foot dislodged a load of turf as he balanced it to strike with his right.

https://twitter.com/mttrddn/status/814216050887761924

SlickRic

Spurs are trying to walk through these last minutes. It's complacent and it's quite ridiculous.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Brilliant finish Son, 3-1.

TitianGerm

davycc wrote: »

I know your not his biggest fan but
Which part of the link shows deli dive .?
I can't see any myself

What part of the link shows Redmond with his two arms around Ali and rubgy tackling him?

To me it looks like Redmond fell over and fell on the back of Ali leg.

GreNoLi

Manchester United

4-1, Alli, good run and ball by Rose.

davycc

Manchester United

4-1 deli alli!

Trigger

Chelsea

davycc wrote: »

I know your not his biggest fan but
Which part of the link shows deli dive .?
I can't see any myself

I actually like him as a player, so i don't know where you are getting your first statement from, if you look at about 55-58 seconds on that link you can see him feigning after he knows that his shot is off target. thats my opinion on it anyways.

And he scores again :pac: good finish.

Spurs exposing the backline now

Vital Transformation

Rose was brilliant there.

davycc

Manchester United

No time for Janssen to get the 5 th

Shame about Kane loosing his footing taking the peno, should have had a brace funny 90 minutes

MD1990

Mike Dean was superb for Spurs tonight. Nice show of appreciation from Dembele too.

https://twitter.com/CelebRefs/status/814226475247345665

blueser

If I was a Saints fan, I'd be worried at how they folded so easily in that second half. That being said, it was an extremely harsh red card, and going down to 10 men against a quality side like Spurs isn't easy.

Iused2likebusts

Top 6 all win scoring 18 goals and conceding 3. There is a huge difference between them and the rest this year.

The Talking Bread

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Top 6 all win scoring 18 goals and conceding 3. There is a huge difference between them and the rest this year.

I was going to argue against that..........but to be fair, you are right. I can see a 15 to 20 points gap at the end of the season between 6th place and 7th)

eh i dunno

Standards definitely raised at top of PL this season. This is first time that, after 18 games, the 5th-place team has 2 pts-per-game average.

Saw this on twitter earlier.

ERG89

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Top 6 all win scoring 18 goals and conceding 3. There is a huge difference between them and the rest this year.

Had Liverpool & Man City not been playing each other they'd all win again in the next round. The majority of the bottom 10 sides are awful despite them spending a lot of money and incredibly bad defensively, the league's overall standard of defending is quite bad though.

Johner

Clement is the favourite to take over at Swansea. They really should go for Rowett, he would be a good appointment, he did a fantastic job at Burton and came in and steadied the ship at Birmingham. Would obviously be a big ask to keep Swansea up though.

Trigger

Chelsea

Oooops, now thats a howler from Marshal, punches the ball backwards into his own goal

blueser

Woeful keeping there. Why did he even come out for it? The nearest player was his own forward, Mbokani.

Trigger

Chelsea

Redeemed himself a bit there, cracking save especially with the deflection

The Talking Bread

blueser wrote: »

Woeful keeping there. Why did he even come out for it? The nearest player was his own forward, Mbokani.

And he was no danger as he can't hit a barn door this season!!

blueser

The Talking Bread wrote: »

And he was no danger as he can't hit a barn door this season!!

Ouch!

The Talking Bread

Need an Everton (and Portsmouth) goal for 600 euro...... : (

The Talking Bread

Fantastic goal!

blueser

Cracking free kick there by Snodgrass. Harsh to blame the keeper there.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Neville blaming a keeper again..

He really doesn't like goalkeepers.

blueser

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Neville blaming a keeper again..

He really doesn't like goalkeepers.

Not sure what Robles could have done there. Yes, there is the argument that once a keeper gets his hands to a shot, he should keep it out. But that was a perfect free kick, right in the top corner. I'd be looking at the midfeld who coughed up cheap possession in the lead up to the free kick.

I can't remember a worse striker than Mbokani in the premiership that has played as many games as him.

I thought Norwich did well last season and put a lot of the blame on him for their relegation.

Hull have played great on occasions this season and if they buy a non statue striker they may have a chance.

Kerrydude1981

Watching the Darts,flicked over to see how the game was going,



Never knew a young Scott Gemmill was back playing for Everton

ERG89

Always helps when the defending is that braindead. Hull should have won this but might as well have scored two own goals. Stand off Baines & statuesque defending in the middle. Koeman must be relieved there is so much garbage below him

blueser

Baines allowed all the time he wanted to send in a decent cross, and Barkley (hardly a giant) allowed a free header from 8 yards out. Hull are simply too limited to survive. And Funes Mori misses a sitter to put Everton ahead.

8-10

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Need an Everton (and Portsmouth) goal for 600 euro...... : (

Quids in!

blueser

8-10 wrote: »

Quids in!

Well done fella. That's your New Year's Eve sorted out then!

The Talking Bread

8-10 wrote: »

Quids in!

Ah, well! At least I am generally consistent with my soul wrenching accumulators! If one came up these days, I would fear the Armaggedon!

Dirty Dingus McGee

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Neville blaming a keeper again..

He really doesn't like goalkeepers.

Both him an Carragher don't seem to like them.

I remember on Monday Night Football a couple of years ago Carragher had a whinge over Pepe Reina having received an award for consecutive clean sheets as Carragher claimed the defenders were doing all the work and they should have received the award.

I've a feeling that deep down a lot of outfield players are really resentful of goalkeepers and think it's a piss easy job.

The Talking Bread

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Both him an Carragher don't seem to like them.

I remember on Monday Night Football a couple of years ago Carragher had a whinge over Pepe Reina having received an award for consecutive clean sheets as Carragher claimed the defenders were doing all the work and they should have received the award.

I've a feeling that deep down a lot of outfield players are really resentful of goalkeepers and think it's a piss easy job.

I am pretty sure Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher would have a very qualified insight as to the difficulty or otherwise being a Premier League keeper after sitting in front of them for 20 odd years !

I think he has a point that it is a lot down to the defence as opposed to the keeper re clean sheets, especially for top teams but the award is completely trivial so not sure why he would have been arsed moaning about it!

Dirty Dingus McGee

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I am pretty sure Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher would have a very qualified insight as to the difficulty or otherwise being a Premier League keeper after sitting in front of them for 20 odd years !

I think he has a point that it is a lot down to the defence as opposed to the keeper re clean sheets, especially for top teams but the award is completely trivial so not sure why he would have been arsed moaning about it!

Sure they would have a good idea about goalkeeping more than most but I just always get the feeling in general from outfield players in the media that they never hold the same respect for goalkeepers as outfielders.

One of Carrragher's gripes while back was goalkeeper getting praise for being a good shotstopper saying that's there job to stop shots but sure you could equally say tackling is a defenders job and they shouldn't be praised for any of that.

8-10

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Ah, well! At least I am generally consistent with my soul wrenching accumulators! If one came up these days, I would fear the Armaggedon!

Apologies I read it wrong and thought you have Everton and Port Vale to score...

My bad, didn't mean to call it out, should lay off the sauce!