General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

Trigger

Chelsea

Andersonisgod wrote: »

That's nice. He's finished.

Well then why do you use Bravo's success as a back up.

callaway92

Manchester United

Andersonisgod wrote: »

La Liga. Copa America. He's the real deal.

That's nice.

He's finished.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

If you want a good hot take here's one: Clichy aside, Aguero has been City's worst player in that half.

Mushy

Did Yaya fall over for no reason after he lost the ball?

sky88

Think city are in similar position to United after fergie in that a big clear out is needed then people realised

blueser

Andersonisgod wrote: »

If you want a good hot take here's one: Clichy aside, Aguero has been City's worst player in that half.

Agreed.

The Talking Bread

Andersonisgod wrote: »

If you want a good hot take here's one: Clichy aside, Aguero has been City's worst player in that half.

Tactics?

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

sky88 wrote: »

Think city are in similar position to United after fergie in that a big clear out is needed then people realised

Agreed. Their recruitment in the last few years has been so poor. Far more misses than hits. On top of that you're trying to build a squad for Guardiola and not every player works in his system. Time is required.

sReq | uTeK

GreNoLi wrote: »

He's bound to adopt the three at the back sooner rather than later or perhaps he'll stick to his guns, hard to tell.

Zaba in the middle says it all. Doesn't have the legs nor the brains to cover that position

Mushy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

If you want a good hot take here's one: Clichy aside, Aguero has been City's worst player in that half.

He strikes me as somebody who wants out!

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Zaba in the middle says it all. Doesn't have the legs nor the brains to cover that position

Not sure why the criticism. He was excellent against West Ham and has had a very good half. Long term he could be improved upon but strange choice of player to single out.

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Agreed. Their recruitment in the last few years has been so poor. Far more misses than hits. On top of that you're trying to build a squad for Guardiola and not every player works in his system. Time is required.

Then don't play the system and revert to what the players know until he gets those players??????

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Pep needs to spent another half a billion on new players to show he is the best coach in the world by the looks of it.

Johner

Poor Pep having a squad that won the league only 3 seasons ago. He spunked £50 million on Stones as well.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

Mushy wrote: »

He strikes me as somebody who wants out!

I'll be honest, his overall game is a concern. He can. Abd sometimes does, make things happen, but he loses the ball far too easily and other times he's too slow on the ball too, takes far too many touches when the speed of the attacks require something quicker.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Then don't play the system and revert to what the players know until he gets those players??????

Someone said that before and I'll say again it's a ridiculous pov for numerous reasons. On top of that the style they played under Pellegrini last season was, points wise, far less successful than this season.

eagle eye

I think he needs two new full backs, a physical centre half to go along with Stones and they'll be fine then.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Pep needs to spent another half a billion on new players to show he is the best coach in the world by the looks of it.

He needs the right players. Simple as. All top clubs spend big money to get big players, Pep is no different. Mourinho has the most expensive squad in football history at his disposal and is 6th....

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Someone said that before and I'll say again it's a ridiculous pov for numerous reasons. On top of that the style they played under Pellegrini last season was, points wise, far less successful than this season.

Then I'll tell as many have said. Stop harping on about the system as an excuse if it shouldn't be changed. It's counter productive and idiotic

The Talking Bread

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Then don't play the system and revert to what the players know until he gets those players??????

Precisely. This completely defeats the long term plans excuse he has for City. The argument about breeding a playing culture is very small excuse to give him a bye this season. Work with what he has and get the best out of them, like all managers are obliged to do. Then recruit and slowly establish his preferred system but again, work with what you have. I can't see many of this first team squad being able to adapt to his preferred system.
If City miss out on Champions League, he will have a lot to answer to and will have less of a chance to attract his preferred players (although his stature will have a large benefit in this regard, of course)

Get a top 4, then recruit.

blueser

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Not sure why the criticism. He was excellent against West Ham and has had a very good half. Long term he could be improved upon but strange choice of player to single out.

Agreed. There are far worse performers out there for us today. Though Zabba will fade in the second half, he just doesn't have the legs anymore.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Precisely. This completely defeats the long term plans excuse he has for City. The argument about breeding a playing culture is very small excuse to give him a bye this season. Work with what he has and get the best out of them, like all managers are obliged to do. Then recruit and slowly establish his preferred system but again, work with what you have. I can't see many of this first team squad being able to adapt to his preferred system.
If City miss out on Champions League, he will have a lot to answer to and will have less of a chance to attract his preferred players (although his stature will have a large benefit in this regard, of course)

Get a top 4, then recruit.

You think he wont get top four?

eagle eye

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Someone said that before and I'll say again it's a ridiculous pov for numerous reasons. On top of that the style they played under Pellegrini last season was, points wise, far less successful than this season.

Far less successful? How about 3 points less successful after 20 games. If City lose today it'll be 2 points.

The Talking Bread

Very much off topic but Kluivert's son made his Ajax debut today!

Harry Palmr

Whoops!

Everton 2-0

Trigger

Chelsea

Get in the ****

Liamalone

Great finish by Mirallas there

sReq | uTeK

Game over.

Mushy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

He strikes me as somebody who wants out!

I'll be honest, his overall game is a concern. He can. Abd sometimes does, make things happen, but he loses the ball far too easily and other times he's too slow on the ball too, takes far too many touches when the speed of the attacks require something quicker.

He's a quality player, he has proven that. His style may not suit Peps style though, and surely you use what you are given/have to play to one of your best players strengths? He(Aguero) is just frustrated.

2-0

Harry Palmr

If City lose then that's any already vague chance of the title gone

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

Offside but City not getting the decisions here.

The Talking Bread

Andersonisgod wrote: »

You think he wont get top four?

I honestly think he may not.

Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal........and then one of the other 3. I actually think United will get a place.

Liamalone

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Offside but City not getting the decisions here.

Specsavers lad

GreNoLi

Manchester United

Kaboom, I'm loving it.

Johner

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Offside but City not getting the decisions here.

I thought you support Chelsea, you should be happy.

blueser

Unbelievable. 2 shots on target, 2 goals conceded.

sReq | uTeK

Is Bravo meant to be a good shot stopper.

Honestly don't think I've seen him save anything this season

Unearthly

Chelsea

Peps body language is dreadful

Mushy

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Is Bravo meant to be a good shot stopper.

Honestly don't think I've seen him save anything this season

No, but his passing is good.

sReq | uTeK

blueser wrote: »

Unbelievable. 2 shots on target, 2 goals conceded.

Why how many shots have city had?

RobertKK

Chelsea

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If City lose then that's any already vague chance of the title gone

Their form is not great.

The top 4 form teams are United, Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool.

blueser

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If City lose then that's any already vague chance of the title gone

It was gone before today, in my opinion. Now we're scrapping for a top 4 spot.

The Talking Bread

Andersonisgod wrote: »

You think he wont get top four?

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I honestly think he may not.

Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal........and then one of the other 3. I actually think United will get a place.

What do you think? Genuine question, who do you think (obviously you can't be sure!) has best chance of top 4 at this stage?

sReq | uTeK

GARETH BARRY. Bossing that midfield today

blueser

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Why how many shots have city had?

What has that got to do with how many shots Everton have had?

Harry Palmr

blueser wrote: »

It was gone before today, in my opinion. Now we're scrapping for a top 4 spot.

Everyone bar Chelsea is in that fight now. Someone is going to get a sneaky left hook.

Liamalone

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Why how many shots have city had?

Don't think they've had any

sReq | uTeK

Unearthly wrote: »

Peps body language is dreadful

Yup it's like a petulant child who's feels he doesn't deserve what he's getting.

It's very much LVG esque in its nature

sReq | uTeK

blueser wrote: »

What has that got to do with how many shots Everton have had?

Because it's 2 more than CITY have. It's not unbelievable when you score from shooting. City should try it

callaway92

Manchester United

According to OptaStats:

Claudio Bravo has conceded from 12 of the last 20 shots on target he has faced in the Premier League.