General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Haven't gotten to really keep up with news this week, but what are they on about on SS1? (Just stuck it on now). Are the players trying to overthow Ranieri?

rumblings are some of the players have got too big for their boots, falling out with Raneiri (Kasper Schimechel was one of the players I heard of)

Rayne Wooney

Arsenal fans have taken a lot over the last decade but selling their best player to United or Chelsea would surely be the tipping point.

The Talking Bread

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Arsenal fans have taken a lot over the last decade but selling their best player to United or Chelsea would surely be the tipping point.

Van Persie says hi.As does Ashley Cole.

Skylinehead

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Arsenal fans have taken a lot over the last decade but selling their best player to United or Chelsea would surely be the tipping point.

....again

eh i dunno

City playing 3-2-5 formation. Should win 7-4

GavRedKing

Chelsea

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Arsenal fans have taken a lot over the last decade but selling their best player to United or Chelsea would surely be the tipping point.

RVP?

The Talking Bread

I would also imagine Sanchez may want a change. He has cut a very frustrated figure at times this season

The Talking Bread

Ellie Freezing Hash wrote: »

rumblings are some of the players have got too big for their boots, falling out with Raneiri (Kasper Schimechel was one of the players I heard of)

Maybe Ranieri has got a bit too big for his boots also. What Leicester achieved last year was a finely tuned miracle, it is not an example of standard practice by Ranieri (and I am a fan of Ranieri)

The fans have been coming around to the idea that he may not be the man to bring them forward since November, you can see that by digging through their fan forums.
It reminds me of his time at Chelsea, he was adored by the fans and had done some great stuff but I think, deep down, fans and players alike knew that to take them to the next step, they had to make a change. Media gave them slack at the time but it was a necessary evil.

RobertKK

Chelsea

I would have more hope for Swansea if Bravo was in goal.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

Lot of empty sears at the Etihad.

For a change.

JPA

Manchester United

eh i dunno wrote: »

City playing 3-2-5 formation. Should win 7-4

More like a 1-2-2-4-1

1 nil. Don't think 7 is out of the question.

Burial.

His intelligence for a young fella is frightening. That's a very well taken goal.

The Talking Bread

I will give it 3 years before Jesus is at the Bernabeu. Seems the natural successor to Ronaldo if he is as good as many speculate

RobertKK

Chelsea

Mike Dean as popular as ever.

Gbear

City really should be about 8-0 up.

They've been careless in the box.

KERSPLAT!

Manchester United

Off side?

Trigger

Chelsea

Keeper defo delayed his dive until he was sure where it was going so should have been called off I think

Rayne Wooney

GavRedKing wrote: »

RVP?

I mistakenly thought RVP was a couple of years older when he signed for some reason which would kind of make sense

Again so

The Talking Bread

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Off side?

hope so, missed it, but would make it all the more sweeter

Agent Coulson

Leicester

That's why Chelsea will walk the league.

The other 5 teams in the top 6 just can't put the smaller teams away.

Jayop

Chelsea

Watching the gaa but flicked to the city game at half time. This Jesus lad looks like a future worldie.

The Talking Bread

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I mistakenly thought RVP was a couple of years older when he signed for some reason which would kind of make sense

Again so

Not to mention Toure, Nasri, Clichy, Adebayour, and Cesc wanted to return but Wenger wouldn't take him back and he went to Chelsea.

And, of course, all the players at their peak they sold to European rivals.

Gbear

Agent Coulson wrote: »

That's why Chelsea will walk the league.

The other 5 teams in the top 6 just can't put the smaller teams away.

No shortage of firepower. They should be demolishing teams if they're getting into the kinds of positions they are today.

There's been something arrogant about how City have played today. It was too easy for them and they haven't been switched on when playing the final ball or in their finishing.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

lol

Jesus Saves.

The Talking Bread

F off. Great positional play all the same

Burial.

Cue all the saviour posts and headlines. What a special player.

The Talking Bread

The Jesus "jokes" are already getting tiresome!

Burial.

Jesus and Aguero will make the headlines obviously enough but Leroy Sane was unreal again today. One of the best dribblers to watch. He's playing out of his skin lately. Unlucky not to score as well.

mickmackey1

Yep Sane and Jesus are genuinely exciting, future looks bright for City. Still not sure where that mid-season slump came from.

blueser

Burial. wrote: »

Jesus and Aguero will make the headlines obviously enough but Leroy Sane was unreal again today. One of the best dribblers to watch. He's playing out of his skin lately. Unlucky not to score as well.

Agreed. He allows us to spread the game, allowing more room in the central areas for Dave and Kev (though I thought Kev was mediocre today). The ame goe for Raheem on the other flank. And Sterling can't win with refs, can he? He didn't go down against Spurs and was denied a blatant penalty (plus a red card for Walker). Today, he' booked for a dive, which it clearly wasn't.

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Yep Sane and Jesus are genuinely exciting, future looks bright for City. Still not sure where that mid-season slump came from.

Look at the average age of that front 3. Plus Jesus wasn't there at the start of the season. And even more important than those things is that these kind of projects dont come together instantly. It takes time, anyone expecting the finished product instantly has clearly not being paying attention to Guardiola's methods or City's recruitment policy.

Harry Palmr

Some stats which may help explain things - esp Spurs current position (luck)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C37CzhRXUAAgAPp.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C37DJDRXAAEAQ1g.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C37DbwFWAAI8i4c.jpg

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C37DbwFWAAI8i4c.jpg

So from this 3rd link there it is saying:

Liverpool allow the least shots per match of all teams in the league

and

Of the shots per match allowed, only those allowed by West Ham, Bournemouth and Swansea are of a higher chance quality than the ones allowed by Liverpool

Am I reading that right?

So we don't allow many, but the ones we do are generally high quality chances. On the surface that makes it look like we're unlucky that the chances we do allow are quality chances....however to me that is due to our style of play - if we have the majority of the possession in the majority of matches we won't allow as many chances. But because of our possession dominance, the chances we do create are generally higher quality because of the position of our players higher up the pitch.

I think this shows that there is a case for us allowing more chances but of lower quality (forcing teams to shoot from distance because they can't break us down). If you look at the other clubs who have few chances created, they are all lower quality than us - Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Southampton, Everton. And those are all the clubs we traditionally want to be competing with.

High possession is great, but our real risk is the likelihood of possession turnover resulting in a quality chance created. In order to achieve that I can only see 1 obvious solution: sign a bad ass DM

(Edit: written from Liverpool fan perspective if not obvious!)

That_Guy

I have only just discovered that Arsenal Fan TV exists.... Makes those Monday blues melt away.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

That_Guy wrote: »

I have only just discovered that Arsenal Fan TV exists.... Makes those Monday blues melt away.

You could fill the humour thread with Troopz rants alone.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

GavRedKing wrote: »

You could fill the humour thread with Troopz Blud/Fam rants alone.

FYP

That_Guy

GavRedKing wrote: »

You could fill the humour thread with Troopz rants alone.

"Blud"
"Fam"

I honestly don't know what he's talking about.

Arghus

That_Guy wrote: »

I have only just discovered that Arsenal Fan TV exists.... Makes those Monday blues melt away.

It's entertaining and funny at first, but after a while it becomes depressing. Those men have so much anger in them, it can't be good.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

That_Guy wrote: »

"Blud"
"Fam"

I honestly don't know what he's talking about.

Its usually the same sentence repeat wioth alternating endings of Blud or Fam.

E.G

Where was Welbeck today Blud, I ask you, why wasnt Welbeck starting fam?

Troopz is almost a pardoy at this stage, if he talks enough sh*te he'll get a feature on the internet.

rob316

Arghus wrote: »

It's entertaining and funny at first, but after a while it becomes depressing. Those men have so much anger in them, it can't be good.

Over a bunch of millionaires who couldn't give a **** about what you think, its very sad.

The Talking Bread

It is fair to say it is looking very likely Sergio won't be at the Etihad next season

http://http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0206/850563-aguero-says-city-future/

KaiserGunner

Tottenham

That_Guy wrote: »

I have only just discovered that Arsenal Fan TV exists.... Makes those Monday blues melt away.

Can't stand AFTV, but I'm seeing on twitter that Gary Neville has offered to be interviewed on AFTV in the near future.

Dirty Dingus McGee

The Talking Bread wrote: »

It is fair to say it is looking very likely Sergio won't be at the Etihad next season

http://http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0206/850563-aguero-says-city-future/

He's far too good to be on the bench.

It'll be interesting to see where he might end up.

rob316

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's far too good to be on the bench.

It'll be interesting to see where he might end up.

PSG are the first name out of the hat, they need a new striker since Zlatan left and have the money to make it happen.

ERG89

rob316 wrote: »

PSG are the first name out of the hat, they need a new striker since Zlatan left and have the money to make it happen.

Cavani has 28 goals in 28 games so I don't see the real need of a striker still.

Dirty Dingus McGee

rob316 wrote: »

PSG are the first name out of the hat, they need a new striker since Zlatan left and have the money to make it happen.

Aren't a huge number of clubs he can go to as most of the massive clubs that could afford him and that's he'd want to go to already have a main striker and he's at a bad age to be moving as nobody is going to want to spend much money on a 29 year old striker and City probably won't want to let him go cheaply.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

I'd love Aguero at Chelsea but I'd prefer Sanchez.

I cant see either being sold to any of their EPL rivals though.

Royale with Cheese

What exactly has Aguero done to warrant being sold? I bet on him to be top scorer so I'm as pissed off with him as most city fans would be for getting needleslly banned for 7 games this season, and he's been off form since he's come back from his second ban. But that combined with a couple of good games from a 19 year old and now he's on his way out? Doesn't make sense to me.

sky88

it kinda looks like to me sergio wants out of city doesnt look like hes up for the games to me.

i dont know if it he dosnt like or want to play for pep or his style or he just wants to move. he is reaching the age a lot of south Americans want to head for the sun.

Lukker-

IMO him being on the bench comes down to his attitude in training. He is notoriously bad in training, puts in minimal effort perhaps in an effort to stop himself getting injured. He's usually a different player on game day but Pep emphasizes work on the training field so much that I don't think Aguero will maintain a starting position without applying himself in training.