General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

davycc

Manchester United

2 fantastic hits from Kane hope he gets the header next for the perfect hat trick

davycc

Manchester United

3rd hatrick in 9 games for Kane! Almost feel sorry for Stoke

ERG89

Stoke are no Gent I guess

Agent Coulson

Leicester

You would have to wonder how long Spurs can hold onto Kane before some of the big boys Chelsea, City, utd even his old club Arsenal come looking maybe even a couple of the Spanish clubs throw money at Levy for him.


If the lad want to win trophies he'll have to move on sooner than later.

davycc

Manchester United

Deli alli gets in on the action too in the correct manner after a lovely assist from super Kane

Burial.

That's insane finishing from Kane. And that touch in the leadup to Alli's goal was class.

Left Back on the Bench

Agent Coulson wrote:

You would have to wonder how long Spurs can hold onto Kane before some of the big boys Chelsea, City, utd even his old club Arsenal come looking maybe even a couple of the Spanish clubs throw money at Levy for him.

He 100% won't go to Chelsea or arsenal.

The Red Lad

Kane is top class today

Vital Transformation

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You would have to wonder how long Spurs can hold onto Kane before some of the big boys Chelsea, City, utd even his old club Arsenal come looking maybe even a couple of the Spanish clubs throw money at Levy for him.


If the lad want to win trophies he'll have to move on sooner than later.

You say that as if they aren't title challengers already. They finished above Chelsea, City and United last season.

blueser

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You would have to wonder how long Spurs can hold onto Kane before some of the big boys Chelsea, City, utd even his old club Arsenal come looking maybe even a couple of the Spanish clubs throw money at Levy for him.


If the lad want to win trophies he'll have to move on sooner than later.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him take the Bale/Modric route and end up at the Bernabeu.

blueser

Vital Transformation wrote: »

You say that as if they aren't title challengers already. They finished above Chelsea, City and United last season.

So did Leicester.

TitianGerm

blueser wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised to see him take the Bale/Modric route and end up at the Bernabeu.

I wonder would United bid for him? Could easily afford him and would be a great signing for them.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Vital Transformation wrote: »

You say that as if they aren't title challengers already. They finished above Chelsea, City and United last season.

Arsenal are missing from that list.

Oh wait Spurs don't finish ahead of them.

The Talking Bread

May get Kane fitted for that United jersey already.............

RobertKK

Chelsea

The Talking Bread wrote: »

May get Kane fitted for that United jersey already.............

Hopefully would be the perfect replacement for Zlatan.

blueser

emmetkenny wrote: »

I wonder would United bid for him? Could easily afford him and would be a great signing for them.

Not sure why he'd go to utd, TBH. Spurs are a better side than them as of now. So it wouldn't be a career-driven move. And if money is his primary interest, I'm sure Madrid could easily better whatever any English club would pay him.

davycc

Manchester United

Alli being targeted all game and he just gets up and smiles each time looks like he learned the lesson from his first professional red card midweek

The Talking Bread

blueser wrote: »

Not sure why he'd go to utd, TBH. Spurs are a better side than them as of now. So it wouldn't be a career-driven move. And if money is his primary interest, I'm sure Madrid could easily better whatever any English club would pay him.

United will clearly surpass Spurs within a season or two. Form wise at the minute, they already are.

blueser

The Talking Bread wrote: »

United will clearly surpass Spurs within a season or two. Form wise at the minute, they already are.

Moving to a club on the basis of what might happen in x seasons' time is a risky move. Yes; utd might overtake Spurs in a season or two. I'm not saying they wont. But then again, they might not. Impossible to predict that with any certainty.

Vital Transformation

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Arsenal are missing from that list.

I'm aware of that, but they performed better than a majority of teams you consider the "big boys".

This season, they've beaten City and Chelsea. Yes, they've also lost to Utd and Liverpool.
My point is that they aren't a lesser team these days and don't belong in a lower bracket of teams. They are competitive and in the mix with the teams you mentioned.

TitianGerm

blueser wrote: »

Not sure why he'd go to utd, TBH. Spurs are a better side than them as of now. So it wouldn't be a career-driven move. And if money is his primary interest, I'm sure Madrid could easily better whatever any English club would pay him.

He'd go to United to win trophies and for a big wage increase. He'd have way more opportunities to win with united than Spurs.

For the last three years Spurs have been better. No way will Spurs stay ahead of United in the coming years though.

Harry Palmr

Stoke have a decent squad with a few talents and yet seem to get thumped every time they meet a good side, is it just tactical naivity from Hughes or are they just too comfortable?

The Talking Bread

blueser wrote: »

Moving to a club on the basis of what might happen in x seasons' time is a risky move. Yes; utd might overtake Spurs in a season or two. I'm not saying they wont. But then again, they might not. Impossible to predict that with any certainty.

So you think Spurs are guaranteed this stature for the forseeable future. I would lay a wager they may struggle to get a Champ League place after this season.
Kane would also be moving to a club to help achieve this revival. He wouldn't be going to sit on his *rse and wait for medals to come his way. Players assume challenges. He will be guaranteed a monster wage to assume this challenge and to play with top players and a top coach.

How is this risky???

Unearthly

Chelsea

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Stoke have a decent squad with a few talents and yet seem to get thumped every time they meet a good side, is it just tactical naivity from Hughes or are they just too comfortable?

They have a midfield of Whelan and Adam which has much mobility as an oil tanker

Harry Palmr

If Kane keeps this up he could move whereever he likes in the summer, Spurs wages won't be enough to keep him and whatever about Utd underperfoming thier potential remains much greater

Harry Palmr

Unearthly wrote: »

They have a midfield of Whelan and Adam which has much mobility as an oil tanker

So they are "comfortable"!

davycc

Manchester United

Hope winks scores or next one


We want 5!

Minderbinder

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If Kane keeps this up he could move whereever he likes in the summer, Spurs wages won't be enough to keep him and whatever about Utd underperfoming thier potential remains much greater

Kane signed a contract until 2022. There is absolutely no chance of him leaving Spurs this summer.

blueser

The Talking Bread wrote: »

So you think Spurs are guaranteed this stature for the forseeable future. I would lay a wager they may struggle to get a Champ League place after this season.
Kane would also be moving to a club to help achieve this revival. He wouldn't be going to sit on his *rse and wait for medals to come his way. Players assume challenges. He will be guaranteed a monster wage to assume this challenge and to play with top players and a top coach.

How is this risky???

It's risky because of what I said earlier. You obviously think that Utd are going to come good again. Fine. I have no problem with that. They have improved under JM. I would lay a similar wager that, back in the early nineties, no Liverpool fan would believe they'd be waiting nearly 30 years for their next league title. No one knows for sure what will happen. Anyway; I'm not on here looking to have an argument with anyone. I was just stating my opinion that Kane could well end up at Madrid.

Lukker-

He'll leave within the next 2 years. He'll eventually get sick of bottling the league and Europe.

TitianGerm

blueser wrote: »

It's risky because of what I said earlier. You obviously think that Utd are going to come good again. Fine. I have no problem with that. They have improved under JM. I would lay a similar wager that, back in the early nineties, no Liverpool fan would believe they'd be waiting nearly 30 years for their next league title. No one knows for sure what will happen. Anyway; I'm not on here looking to have an argument with anyone. I was just stating my opinion that Kane could well end up at Madrid.

The difference between Liverpool in the early 90s and United now is United have a near unlimited supply of funds.

They can afford to pay huge fees and astronomical wages. They can sign whoever they want if the player wants to come.

Lukker-

emmetkenny wrote: »

blueser wrote: »

It's risky because of what I said earlier. You obviously think that Utd are going to come good again. Fine. I have no problem with that. They have improved under JM. I would lay a similar wager that, back in the early nineties, no Liverpool fan would believe they'd be waiting nearly 30 years for their next league title. No one knows for sure what will happen. Anyway; I'm not on here looking to have an argument with anyone. I was just stating my opinion that Kane could well end up at Madrid.

The difference between Liverpool in the early 90s and United now is United have a near unlimited supply of funds.

They can afford to pay huge fees and astronomical wages. They can sign whoever they want if the player wants to come.

Throwing money at it hasn't worked yet

Wrongway1985

Lukker- wrote: »

Throwing money at it hasn't worked yet

It's been great fun though for opposing fans

KingdomYid

The Talking Bread wrote: »

So you think Spurs are guaranteed this stature for the forseeable future. I would lay a wager they may struggle to get a Champ League place after this season.
Kane would also be moving to a club to help achieve this revival. He wouldn't be going to sit on his *rse and wait for medals to come his way. Players assume challenges. He will be guaranteed a monster wage to assume this challenge and to play with top players and a top coach.

How is this risky???

Kane will not be going to United, dream on with that one.

KingdomYid

Lukker- wrote: »

He'll leave within the next 2 years. He'll eventually get sick of bottling the league and Europe.

Want a wager on that??

The Talking Bread

blueser wrote: »

It's risky because of what I said earlier. You obviously think that Utd are going to come good again. Fine. I have no problem with that. They have improved under JM. I would lay a similar wager that, back in the early nineties, no Liverpool fan would believe they'd be waiting nearly 30 years for their next league title. No one knows for sure what will happen. Anyway; I'm not on here looking to have an argument with anyone. I was just stating my opinion that Kane could well end up at Madrid.

That is a different debate though that me and you were engaging in (from what I gathered), ie your point that "why would he leave a club like Spurs for United, due to the fact Spurs performed better last season" (not exact words, of course!)?
I am not looking for an argument either! It is merely debating a point, don't read too much into it! The Real Madrid point is different, again a potential move but on the law of averages, most British players don't leave the country.

Lukker-

KingdomYid wrote: »

Lukker- wrote: »

He'll leave within the next 2 years. He'll eventually get sick of bottling the league and Europe.

Want a wager on that??

Spurs to keep bottling or Kane to leave within 2 years?

Either way, sure

TitianGerm

Lukker- wrote: »

Throwing money at it hasn't worked yet

There was no clear plan before. I'd assume that's all changed now with Jose in place.

The Talking Bread

KingdomYid wrote: »

Kane will not be going to United, dream on with that one.

Probably his most likely destination. Either United, City (ugh) or Real. I can't see why not? Where is your reasoning as to why he would definitely not

My prediction 80 million fee

emmetkenny

Manchester United

emmetkenny wrote: »

The difference between Liverpool in the early 90s and United now is United have a near unlimited supply of funds.

They can afford to pay huge fees and astronomical wages. They can sign whoever they want if the player wants to come.

Which basically is why football is broken

The Talking Bread

Minderbinder wrote: »

Kane signed a contract until 2022. There is absolutely no chance of him leaving Spurs this summer.

All the more reason he may go arguably! Long contract = guaranteed monster fee.

TitianGerm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Probably his most likely destination. Either United, City (ugh) or Real. I can't see why not? Where is your reasoning as to why he would definitely not

My prediction 80 million fee

He'll go for more than that. Levy will get every penny out if whoever comes in for him.

My guess would be United for £100m, City have Jesus, Ienacho (spelling) and Augero so not really sure if they'd stump up the required fee.

blueser

The Talking Bread wrote: »

That is a different debate though that me and you were engaging in (from what I gathered), ie your point that "why would he leave a club like Spurs for United, due to the fact Spurs performed better last season" (not exact words, of course!)?
I am not looking for an argument either! It is merely debating a point, don't read too much into it! The Real Madrid point is different, again a potential move but on the law of averages, most British players don't leave the country.

My original post was something along the lines of him taking the Bale/Modric route to the Bernabeu. Someone then quoted that, saying that he might end up at utd. That's how I was drawn into that particular debate. Go back a page or so and check my posts if you don't believe me. I wasn't having a pop, whatever you might want to believe. FWIW, he won't come to us either. I'd rather one or two of their defenders, to be honest!

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Which basically is why football is broken

United invested heavily in the late 90s in their brand, structure and commercial images and are reaping the rewards now.

They are a well run company and do not have a billion dollar financier to bankroll everything. I don't see anything wrong with what they do.

KingdomYid

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Probably his most likely destination. Either United, City (ugh) or Real. I can't see why not? Where is your reasoning as to why he would definitely not

My prediction 80 million fee

My prediction is that he will stay and become the clubs all time leading goalscorer as he is Spurs through and through

TitianGerm

KingdomYid wrote: »

My prediction is that he will stay and become the clubs all time leading goalscorer as he is Spurs through and through

Was Kane not at Arsenal for a time or am i mixing that up?

The Talking Bread

blueser wrote: »

My original post was something along the lines of him taking the Bale/Modric route to the Bernabeu. Someone then quoted that, saying that he might end up at utd. That's how I was drawn into that particular debate. Go back a page or so and check my posts if you don't believe me. I wasn't having a pop, whatever you might want to believe. FWIW, he won't come to us either. I'd rather one or two of their defenders, to be honest!

I didn't think you were having a pop!! You shouldn't read so much into this!

KingdomYid

emmetkenny wrote: »

Was Kane not at Arsenal for a time or am i mixing that up?

Maybe when he was 11 but has been at Spurs since he was 13.

Minderbinder

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Minderbinder wrote: »

Kane signed a contract until 2022. There is absolutely no chance of him leaving Spurs this summer.

All the more reason he may go arguably! Long contract = guaranteed monster fee.

They'd also be guaranteed a huge transfer fee in the summer of 2019 which would be a more likely time for him to go if he ever does go. Spurs won't cash in when they're building a team capable of challenging for the league. Kane also comes across as a very mature, fairly intelligent guy. Raheem Sterling he is not.

The Talking Bread

emmetkenny wrote: »

Was Kane not at Arsenal for a time or am i mixing that up?

No that was Kanu......