General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

Turtwig

Be hilarious if City conceded another. Would make things super interesting.

The Talking Bread

Pep referring to City not being a "big club" was a bad choice of words!

Turtwig

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Pep referring to City not being a "big club" was a bad choice of words!

Yep.

He has stated though before similar words to that effect. He sees his role there as establishing an identity and philosophy for the club. Really feel he could do with more PR training over the summer tho.

The Talking Bread

Ali El Habsi played an absolute stormer in the Playoff tonight! Great end to end game! Some absolute sitters missed.

Turtwig

Did Zab just say "this little club" ? Or was that my ears.

SEPT 23 1989

Manchester United

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Pep referring to City not being a "big club" was a bad choice of words!

Not what he said

GavRedKing

Chelsea

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

He wont. A young GK will think seriously but joining.

We probably need an experienced GK looking for a payday thats still capable when needed. Begovic is ideal but I can see him leaving.

blueser

Turtwig wrote: »

Be hilarious if City conceded another. Would make things super interesting.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Turtwig

blueser wrote: »

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Don't be. I was just hoping for some late drama in either of the games. Ye fully deserved the win.

The Red Lad

Pickford would be a fool to go to Chelsea or United to play second fiddle he will go somewhere where he will be number one capable of being first choice with City,Liverpool,Arsenal and any other premier league team other then Spurs,United,Chelsea

blueser

The Red Lad wrote: »

Pickford would be a fool to go to Chelsea or United to play second fiddle he will go somewhere where he will be number one capable of being first choice with City,Liverpool,Arsenal and any other premier league team other then Spurs,United,Chelsea

Agreed. He'd be wasted sitting on the bench.

Bridge93

The Red Lad wrote: »

Pickford would be a fool to go to Chelsea or United to play second fiddle he will go somewhere where he will be number one capable of being first choice with City,Liverpool,Arsenal and any other premier league team other then Spurs,United,Chelsea

He wouldn't be first choice at Southampton or Stoke either. Debateable about a few more too at the minute

ERG89

The Talking Bread wrote:

Pep referring to City not being a "big club" was a bad choice of words!

Going by the last 5 years the big clubs in Europe are certainly not in England.
City now aren't a Bayern or Barca so it's not like he can stand there comparing them & talk out his hole like most managers would.

The Talking Bread

Turtwig wrote: »

Yep.

He has stated though before similar words to that effect. He sees his role there as establishing an identity and philosophy for the club. Really feel he could do with more PR training over the summer tho.

Ha, in fairness, he did wink at the journalist and say "there is your headline for tomorrow" (ie NOT A BIG CLUB)

But it isn't the first time he has referred to the club as small and how he wants to make them big and a success. It isn't as if City have been devoid of success the last 7 years or so.

It comes across as very much an ego project for him at times with the endless waffle about how much he has learnt this season, how much tthe experience will make him a better manager suggests he sees his City contract as some sort of self improvement course and one for the CV!

Many fans get really p1ssed off with him for saying the fans don't create the right atmosphere and that they don't have the history clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool have. City Fans are very proud and condescending statements like that for a man who has, lets admit it, been disappointing relative to expectancy and hype and money must be soul draining at times.

At the end of the day, he gets paid millions for the privilege of being part of the club, some fans have to pay decent portions of their wages following them so diverting attention to atmosphere and empty seats is pretty disrespectful at times.

He took over from 2 managers that brought the club success, that the club fans really took to. Mancini who the fans dubbed "Bobby" and had a great admiration of and vice versa was particularly loved so he needs to realise a bond with the fans is important.



Anyway, context, I don't think you can judge a manager properly until he has had two or three seasons, wiped out most of the squad and had 3/4 of a billion pounds to spend on players who will be earning half a million each a week!. Some fans are to quick to judge...... (that one is for you AIG!)

The Red Lad

Bridge93 wrote: »

He wouldn't be first choice at Southampton or Stoke either. Debateable about a few more too at the minute

Definitely could overtake Butland and Forster if he keeps playing the way he is and realistically would get more of a chance with them teams as opposed to De Gea and Courtois who's places are etched in stone. He's better than anything the majority have anyways in the league I hope wherever he goes it's where he will be or become first choice very quickly.

TitianGerm

The Red Lad wrote: »

Pickford would be a fool to go to Chelsea or United to play second fiddle he will go somewhere where he will be number one capable of being first choice with City,Liverpool,Arsenal and any other premier league team other then Spurs,United,Chelsea

United might be loosing De Gea so he could push for first team football there. Arsenal might be a much better place though as Cech won't be around for many more seasons.

5starpool

Manchester United

Prize money in the PL this season.

1 38m
2 36.1m
3 34.2m
4 32.3m
5 30.4m
6 28.5m
7 26.6m
8 24.7m
9 22.8m
10 20.9m
11 19m
12 17.1m
13 15.2m
14 13.3m
15 11.4m
16 9.5m
17 7.6m
18 5.7m
19 3.8m
20 1.9m

batistuta9

That's only for finishing positions.
The equal share & TV money (games shown in TV) are added too.

Sunderland will get at least about 60 million

The Talking Bread

Sanchez has scored 28 goals and 16 assists, jesus, where would Arsenal have been in his absence. And, more aptly, looking forward what will he cost. Arsenal aren't going to let him go for anything but a pretty dollar

batistuta9

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Sanchez has scored 28 goals and 16 assists, jesus, where would Arsenal have been in his absence. And, more aptly, looking forward what will he cost. Arsenal aren't going to let him go for anything but a pretty dollar

Well he does only have 1 year left & arsenal haven't a great record in getting massive money for players in that situation, fabregas + rvp especially.

Their saying they'll keep him & ozil - he's in the last year too - whatever the bids. Sanchez will stay if offered enough.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Sanchez has scored 28 goals and 16 assists, jesus, where would Arsenal have been in his absence. And, more aptly, looking forward what will he cost. Arsenal aren't going to let him go for anything but a pretty dollar

12months left on his deal.

It wont be a PL side so thats abroad and given he could sign a pre-contract in January and leave for feck all in the summer, I dont think it will be massive money.

Thats if he doesnt sign an extension BTW.

irishman86

The Talking Bread wrote: »

ahem...!


Sure maybe he is God's gift!

You think I would have learned from the other lunatic
Although, maybe it was me motivating him :cool:

5starpool

Manchester United

batistuta9 wrote: »

That's only for finishing positions.
The equal share & TV money (games shown in TV) are added too.

Sunderland will get at least about 60 million

Obviously. Between all I think this year it'll be much higher than 60m for last place.

Chelsea

Any bookies got a price on the likelihood of a play-off happening for 4th?

A playoff can only happen if :

Liverpool lose 0-2
Arsenal draw 1-1

Not sure if bookies have specific odds on a playoff bit you could do a double on the above mentioned scorelines which would be pretty hefty odds I'd imagine

Edit. 1432/1 with Bet Victor

Chelsea

Worth a euro....

Jayop

Chelsea

Jesus that's mad odds.

abff

RoboKlopp wrote: »

A playoff can only happen if :

Liverpool lose 0-2
Arsenal draw 1-1

Not sure if bookies have specific odds on a playoff bit you could do a double on the above mentioned scorelines which would be pretty hefty odds I'd imagine

Edit. 1432/1 with Bet Victor

It could also happen if Liverpool lose 1-3 and Arsenal draw 2-2 and with 2-4, 3-3 scorelines etc. I guess these are even more unlikely than 0-2 and 1-1, but probably brings overall odds down to around 1000/1.

There could also be a tie for 3rd place if City draw 3-3 and Liverpool win 3-0 (or 4-4 and 4-1, etc.). I imagine the odds against that are even greater than the odds against a tie for 4th.

If they do tie for 3rd, will there be a play off to determine who gets the automatic place in the group stages?

Liamalone

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Any bookies got a price on the likelihood of a play-off happening for 4th?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39944529

monkey9

Just two more post match "we didn't want to finish top four anyway" type interviews from Mourinho to get through now for the season.

Liamalone

monkey9 wrote: »

Just two more post match "we didn't want to finish top four anyway" type interviews from Mourinho to get through now for the season.

And only one from Klopp

davycc

Manchester United

Harry Kane, he scores when he likes.

davycc

Manchester United

Jamie Vardy, he dives when he likes

The Talking Bread

Tottenham Hotspur, they fall short when they like!

davycc

Manchester United

Epic team goal finished off by son 2 nil well deserved should be double

mickmackey1

Spurs, City and Pool have all scored 75 goals this season, Arse 74.

ERG89

Tottenham are miles ahead of them but Leicester don't care. Some of the performances of the teams from West Brom down is pretty pathetic to watch the last month or so.
Looking at Mahrez I can't think of many who'd pay what Leicester would want.

KingdomYid

ERG89 wrote: »

Tottenham are miles ahead of them but Leicester don't care. Some of the performances of the teams from West Brom down is pretty pathetic to watch the last month or so.
Looking at Mahrez I can't think of many who'd pay what Leicester would want.

He is a one season wonder, any decent team should not go near him. I have a feeling he could be poison in a dressing room also. Spurs are just oozing class tonight, fantastic to watch

The Talking Bread

KingdomYid wrote: »

He is a one season wonder, any decent team should not go near him. I have a feeling he could be poison in a dressing room also. Spurs are just oozing class tonight, fantastic to watch

Based on what???? If you read through colleague and backroom staff sources, it makes a mockery of that "feeling"

KingdomYid

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Based on what???? If you read through colleague and backroom staff sources, it makes a mockery of that "feeling"

Nope havent read any of those nor have any interest in reading them. My impression came from the fact he downed tools for his manager for half a season.

The Talking Bread

KingdomYid wrote: »

Nope havent read any of those nor have any interest in reading them. My impression came from the fact he downed tools for his manager for half a season.

Who said he intentionally downed tools? Oh, yeah, The Daily Mirror and Graham Souness. :rolleyes:

davycc

Manchester United

Kane now joint pl top scorer.

Fill your boots kiddo

theoneeyedman

ERG89 wrote: »

Tottenham are miles ahead of them but Leicester don't care. Some of the performances of the teams from West Brom down is pretty pathetic to watch the last month or so. .

I heard the notion on the radio last night about introducing a playoff for the last champions league place. It seems it happens in other leagues (Belgium?), it's up to the League how they select the teams. Would keep interest in the mid table teams, 7th could make the champions league, rather than packing it in in mid February

The Talking Bread

davycc wrote: »

Kane now joint pl top scorer.

Fill your boots kiddo

Both only 23 as well.

davycc

Manchester United

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Both only 23 as well.

Came up on my sky sports after his second that he was the joint top scorer in pl

The Talking Bread

davycc wrote: »

Came up on my sky sports after his second that he was the joint top scorer in pl

no, I mean age! Him and Rom Luk!

davycc

Manchester United

Son got his 21st goal of the season not bad for a bench warmer lol

The Talking Bread

Leicester downing tools for Shakespeare after he helped save them from relegation.. Traitors.

Corholio

I really like watching Spurs but they have to be a lot wiser with big money next season. Both Sissoko and Janssen have been disasters, Sissoko especially was atrocious transfer business. He wasn't even useful as a sub this season.

davycc

Manchester United

What a rocket from Kane! Top scorer outright in the pl and well deserved if hopefully he retains the golden boot