General Premier League Thread - 2016/2017

abff

AdamD wrote: »

The sheer obsession over Terry's departure is significantly more annoying than Terry's departure, given the vast majority of us didn't watch the game so could easily be on with our lives.

It's not so much his departure that people are talking about. It's more the obnoxious, overbearing way in which he stage managed the entire process.

Fairly typical of the way in which he has behaved throughout his career, in my opinion.

KERSPLAT!

Manchester United

Can someone explain what happens if United win the EL tonight, who has a CL place next year or what exactly changes between them winning and losing or is it a case that if they win they're in and it has no affect on the rest of the PL teams?

abff

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Can someone explain what happens if United win the EL tonight, who has a CL place next year or what exactly changes between them winning and losing or is it a case that if they win they're in and it has no affect on the rest of the PL teams?

If they win, they're in and it has no effect on the rest of the PL teams.

Liamalone

If they win then Everton enter the EL at a later stage, possibly the group stage or more likely the last qualifying round.

Agent Coulson

Leicester

Craig Shakespeare given the Leicester on a three year contract.

citytillidie

Liamalone wrote: »

If they win then Everton enter the EL at a later stage, possibly the group stage or more likely the last qualifying round.

Nope England just lose a spot Everton still enter in the 3rd round

Harry Palmr

Moyes fined 30k for slap comment.

Kiith

Southampton just sacked Claude Puel. After an 8th finish and a cup final. Seems kind of mental tbh.

mickmackey1

Kiith wrote: »

Southampton just sacked Claude Puel. After an 8th finish and a cup final. Seems kind of mental tbh.

It does at first glance, but then again they finished 6th last year. And his style of play didn't go down well with the fans.

~Rebel~

mickmackey1 wrote: »

It does at first glance, but then again they finished 6th last year. And his style of play didn't go down well with the fans.

And the spread of points is a bit misleading too... they were only 6 points clear of 17th, and 15 points behind Everton only one place ahead in 7th.

Finished 17 points worse off than last season. Hard to look at that as anything other than fairly disappointing.

batistuta9

Thats been rumoured since well before the end of the season, surprised they've took this long & didn't go for Marco silva

~Rebel~

batistuta9 wrote: »

Thats been rumoured since well before the end of the season, surprised they've took this long & didn't go for Marco silva

I'm also sort of surprised Marco Silva actually took the Watford job... would have thought he'd get offers from more ambitious clubs. Unless Watford have assured him they're not gonna make last seasons mistakes again.

batistuta9

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'm also sort of surprised Marco Silva actually took the Watford job... would have thought he'd get offers from more ambitious clubs. Unless Watford have assured him they're not gonna make last seasons mistakes again.

In England? I'd say Watford are probably one of the more ambitious clubs in the PL going by the owners history, they got udinese champions league qualification.

Not sure what went on last season with them that you mention

~Rebel~

batistuta9 wrote: »

In England? I'd say Watford are probably one of the more ambitious clubs in the PL going by the owners history, they got udinese champions league qualification.

Not sure what went on last season with them that you mention

Sorry, yes, of course - totally crossed some wires in my brain and for some reason was thinking of Hull rather than Watford! Never mind, nothing to see here

BullBlackNova

Kiith wrote: »

Southampton just sacked Claude Puel. After an 8th finish and a cup final. Seems kind of mental tbh.

I think it boiled down to attitude and style of football. Lot of pretty reliable journalists on Twitter suggesting that the players didn't like his style of football or his training methods.

I reckon it was harsh - that's a pretty successful season that will be difficult to improve on, especially if they lose some key first team players again. Naturally, Everton and Southampton want to push into the top 6 and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that one could, but there's going to be fierce competition at that end of the league. In the mini-league outside the 6, any of Everton, Southampton, end-of-season Leicester, West Ham or even Newcastle would fancy their chances of being the best of the rest...

I mean, Fonte sold in January and Van Dijk injured meant they finished the season with Yoshida and Stephens... Not many teams could've handled that!!

But maybe they would be happier with a different style/approach and a lower finish? Doubtful tbh. Can totally see an attacking manager finishing 10th and being dropped in twelve months too.

There were lots of links to Thomas Tuchel a few weeks ago which definitely suggests that the club is favouring attacking style, high pressing, etc

~Rebel~

Getting only 46 points this season after getting 63 last season must have been pretty disappointing though.

Jayop

Chelsea

At some point it's inevitable that Southampton will make a proper bad appointment for manager and fail to replace the players they sell every single year with better ones and they will struggle to stay in the league. They've done amazingly well the last few years to keep switching managers and keep selling their best players with little impact on the league position, but that's not tenable long term without it going badly wrong at least once.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

Tuchel is apparently favourite to take over at Southampton.

SuperTortoise

Tottenham

I thought Tuchel would have been going to a "bigger" club than Southampton, he'll be well aware of the trend of Southampton selling their best 2 or 3 players every year and i think he'd be wise to turn that down.

martyos121

SuperTortoise wrote: »

I thought Tuchel would have been going to a "bigger" club than Southampton, he'll be well aware of the trend of Southampton selling their best 2 or 3 players every year and i think he'd be wise to turn that down.

Dortmund have a clear history of doing the very same and that didn't put him off going there. Of course they're a bigger club who regularly play in the CL so that helped, but it's nothing he's not used to. Even in his days at Mainz, he lost plenty of decent players like Schurrle and Fuchs only to replace them with mediocre ones.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

I'd say Tuchel is happy to take the money, handy earner for 2 or 3 years and if he does a decent job, it will be seen as a stepping stone club.

Trigger

Chelsea

https://twitter.com/skysportsnewshq/status/875298339922857984

Andersonisgod

Manchester United

That should not be a surprise. He's at least a couple of levels above that job.

irishman86

Andersonisgod wrote: »

That should not be a surprise. He's at least a couple of levels above that job.

But Liverpool have Klopp :pac:

citytillidie

Thought I would start this as it starts really when the new fixtures are announced.

Speaking of which

Date/Team Chelsea Spurs Man City Liverpool Arsenal Man Utd Everton Southampton Bournemouth WBA
12th Aug Burnley Newcastle (a) Brighton (a) Watford (a) Leicester West Ham Stoke Swansea WBA (a) Bournemouth
19th Aug Spurs(a) Chelsea Everton Palace Stoke (a) Swansea (a) Man City (a) West Ham (a) Watford Burnley (a)
26th Aug Everton Burnley Bournemouth (a) Arsenal Liverpool (a) Leicester Chelsea (a) Huddersfield (a) Man City Stoke
9th Sep Leicester (a) Everton (a) Liverpool Man City (a) Bournemouth Stoke (a) Spurs Watford Arsenal (a) Brighton (a)
16th Sep Arsenal Swansea Watford (a) Burnley Chelsea (a) Everton Man Utd (a) Palace (a) Brighton West Ham
23rd Sep Stoke (a) West Ham (a) Palace Leicester (a) WBA Southampton (a) Bouremouth Man Utd Everton (a) Arsenal (a)
30th Sep Man City Huddersfield (a) Chelsea (a) Newcastle (a) Brighton Palace Burnley Stoke (a) Leicester Watford
14th Oct Palace (a) Bournemouth Stoke Man Utd Watford (a) Liverpool (a) Brighton (a) Newcastle Spurs (a) Leicester (a)
21st Oct Watford Liverpool Burnley Spurs (a) Everton (a) Huddersfield (a) Arsenal WBA Stoke (a) Southampton (a)
28th Oct Bournemouth (a) Man Utd (a) WBA (a) Huddersfield Swansea Spurs Leicester (a) Brighton (a) Chelsea Man City
4th Nov Man Utd Palace Arsenal West Ham (a) Man City (a) Chelsea (a) Watford Burnley Newcastle (a) Huddersfield (a)
18th Nov WBA (a) Arsenal (a) Leicester (a) Southampton Spurs Newcastle Palace (a) Liverpool (a) Huddersfield Chelsea
25th Nov Liverpool (a) WBA Huddersfield (a) Chelsea Burnley (a) Brighton Southampton (a) Everton Swansea (a) Spurs (a)
29th Nov Swansea Leicester (a) Southampton Stoke (a) Huddersfield Watford (a) West Ham Man City (a) Burnley Newcastle
2nd Dec Newcastle Watford (a) West Ham Brighton (a) Man Utd Arsenal (a) Huddersfield Bourenouth (a) Southampton Palace
9th Dec West Ham (a) Stoke Man Utd (a) Everton Southampton (a) Man City Liverpool (a) Arsenal Palace (a) Swansea (a)
12th Dec Huddersfield (a) Brighton Swansea (a) WBA West Ham (a) Bournemouth Newcastle (a) Leicester Man Utd (a) Liverpool (a)
16th Dec Southampton Man City (a) Spurs Bournemouth (a) Newcastle WBA (a) Swansea Chelsea (a) Liverpool Man Utd
23rd Dec Everton (a) Burnley (a) Bournemouth Arsenal (a) Liverpool Leicester (a) Chelsea Huddersfield Man City (a) Stoke (a)
26th Dec Brighton Southampton Newcastle (a) Swansea Palace (a) Burnley WBA (a) Spurs (a) West Ham Everton
30th Dec Stoke West Ham Palace (a) Leicester WBA (a) Southampton Bouremouth (a) Man Utd (a) Everton Arsenal
1st Jan Arsenal (a) Swansea (a) Watford Burnley (a) Chelsea Everton (a) Man Utd Palace Brighton (a) West Ham (a)
13th Jan Leicester Everton Liverpool (a) Man City Bournemouth (a) Stoke Spurs (a) Watford (a) Arsenal Brighton
20th Jan Brighton (a) Southampton (a) Newcastle Swansea (a) Palace Burnley (a) WBA Spurs West Ham (a) Everton (a)
31st Jan Bournemouth Man Utd WBA Huddersfield (a) Swansea (a) Spurs (a) Leicester Brighton Chelsea (a) Man City (a)
3rd Feb Watford (a) Liverpool (a) Burnley (a) Spurs Everton Huddersfield Arsenal (a) WBA (a) Stoke Southampton
10th Feb WBA Arsenal Leicester Southampton (a) Spurs (a) Newcastle (a) Palace Liverpool Huddersfield (a) Chelsea (a)
24th Feb Man Utd (a) Palace (a) Arsenal (a) West Ham Man City Chelsea Watford (a) Burnley (a) Newcastle Huddersfield
3rd Mar Man City (a) Huddersfield Chelsea Newcastle Brighton (a) Palace (a) Burnley (a) Stoke Leicester (a) Watford (a)
10th Mar Palace Bournemouth (a) Stoke (a) Man Utd (a) Watford Liverpool Brighton Newcastle (a) Spurs Leicester
17th Mar Burnley (a) Newcastle Brighton Watford Leicester (a) West Ham (a) Stoke (a) Swansea (a) WBA Bournemouth (a)
31st Mar Spurs Chelsea (a) Everton (a) Palace (a) Stoke Swansea Man City West Ham Watford (a) Burnley
7th Apr West Ham Stoke (a) Man Utd Everton (a) Southampton Man City (a) Liverpool Arsenal (a) Palace Swansea
14th Apr Southampton (a) Man City Spurs (a) Bournemouth Newcastle (a) WBA Swansea (a) Chelsea Liverpool (a) Man Utd (a)
21st Apr Huddersfield Brighton (a) Swansea WBA (a) West Ham Bournemouth (a) Newcastle Leicester (a) Man Utd Liverpool
28th Apr Swansea (a) Watford West Ham (a) Stoke Man Utd (a) Arsenal Huddersfield (a) Bourenouth Southampton (a) Newcastle (a)
5th May Liverpool WBA (a) Huddersfield Chelsea (a) Burnley Brighton (a) Southampton Everton (a) Swansea Spurs
13th May Newcastle (a) Leicester Southampton (a) Brighton Huddersfield (a) Watford West Ham (a) Man City Burnley (a) Palace (a)


Date/Team West Ham Leicester Stoke Palace Swansea Burnley Watford Newcastle Brighton Huddersfield
12th Aug Man Utd (a) Arsenal (a) Everton (a) Huddersfield Southampton (a) Chelsea (a) Liverpool Spurs Man City Palace (a)
19th Aug Southampton Brighton Arsenal Liverpool (a) Man Utd WBA Bournemouth (a) Huddersfield (a) Leicester (a) Newcastle
26th Aug Newcastle (a) Man Utd (a) WBA (a) Swansea Palace (a) Spurs (a) Brighton West Ham Watford (a) Southampton
9th Sep Huddersfield Chelsea Man Utd Burnley (a) Newcastle Palace Southampton (a) Swansea (a) WBA West Ham (a)
16th Sep WBA (a) Huddersfield (a) Newcastle (a) Southampton Spurs (a) Liverpool (a) Man City Stoke Bournemouth (a) Leicester
23rd Sep Spurs Liverpool Chelsea Man City (a) Watford Huddersfield Swansea (a) Brighton (a) Newcastle Burnley (a)
30th Sep Swansea Bournemouth (a) Southampton Man Utd (a) West Ham (a) Everton (a) WBA (a) Liverpool Arsenal (a) Spurs
14th Oct Burnley (a) WBA Man City (a) Chelsea Huddersfield West Ham Arsenal Southampton (a) Everton Swansea (a)
21st Oct Brighton Swansea (a) Bournemouth Newcaslte (a) Leicester Man City (a) Chelsea (a) Palace West Ham (a) Man Utd
28th Oct Palace (a) Everton Watford (a) West Ham Arsenal (a) Newcastle Stoke Burnley (a) Southampton Liverpool (a)
4th Nov Liverpool Stoke (a) Leicester Spurs (a) Brighton Southampton (a) Everton (a) Bournemouth Swansea (a) WBA
18th Nov Watford (a) Man City Brighton (a) Everton Burnley (a) Swansea West Ham Man Utd (a) Stoke Bournemouth (a)
25th Nov Leicester West Ham (a) Palace (a) Stoke Bournemouth Arsenal Newcastle (a) Watford Man Utd (a) Man City
29th Nov Everton (a) Spurs Liverpool Brighton (a) Chelsea (a) Bournemouth (a) Man Utd WBA (a) Palace Arsenal (a)
2nd Dec Man City (a) Burnley Swansea WBA (a) Stoke (a) Leicester (a) Spurs Chelsea (a) Liverpool Everton (a)
9th Dec Chelsea Newcastle (a) Spurs (a) Bournemouth WBA Watford Burnley (a) Leicester Huddersfield (a) Brighton
12th Dec Arsenal Southampton (a) Burnley (a) Watford Man City Stoke Palace (a) Everton Spurs (a) Chelsea
16th Dec Stoke (a) Palace West Ham Leicester (a) Everton (a) Brighton (a) Huddersfield Arsenal (a) Burnley Watford (a)
23rd Dec Newcastle Man Utd WBA Swansea (a) Palace Spurs Brighton (a) West Ham (a) Watford Southampton (a)
26th Dec Bournemouth (a) Watford (a) Huddersfield (a) Arsenal Liverpool (a) Man Utd (a) Leicester Man City Chelsea (a) Stoke
30th Dec Spurs (a) Liverpool (a) Chelsea (a) Man City Watford (a) Huddersfield (a) Swansea Brighton Newcastle (a) Burnley
1st Jan WBA Huddersfield Newcastle Southampton (a) Spurs Liverpool Man City (a) Stoke (a) Bournemouth Leicester (a)
13th Jan Huddersfield (a) Chelsea (a) Man Utd (a) Burnley Newcastle (a) Palace (a) Southampton Swansea WBA (a) West Ham
20th Jan Bournemouth Watford Huddersfield Arsenal (a) Liverpool Man Utd Leicester (a) Man City (a) Chelsea Stoke (a)
31st Jan Palace Everton (a) Watford West Ham (a) Arsenal Newcastle (a) Stoke (a) Burnley Southampton (a) Liverpool
3rd Feb Brighton (a) Swansea Bournemouth (a) Newcaslte Leicester (a) Man City Chelsea Palace (a) West Ham Man Utd (a)
10th Feb Watford Man City (a) Brighton Everton (a) Burnley Swansea (a) West Ham (a) Man Utd Stoke (a) Bournemouth
24th Feb Liverpool (a) Stoke Leicester (a) Spurs Brighton (a) Southampton Everton Bournemouth (a) Swansea WBA (a)
3rd Mar Swansea (a) Bournemouth Southampton (a) Man Utd West Ham Everton WBA Liverpool (a) Arsenal Spurs (a)
10th Mar Burnley WBA (a) Man City Chelsea (a) Huddersfield (a) West Ham (a) Arsenal (a) Southampton Everton (a) Swansea
17th Mar Man Utd Arsenal Everton Huddersfield (a) Southampton Chelsea Liverpool (a) Spurs (a) Man City (a) Palace
31st Mar Southampton (a) Brighton (a) Arsenal (a) Liverpool Man Utd (a) WBA (a) Bournemouth Huddersfield Leicester Newcastle (a)
7th Apr Chelsea (a) Newcastle Spurs Bournemouth (a) WBA (a) Watford (a) Burnley Leicester (a) Huddersfield Brighton (a)
14th Apr Stoke Burnley (a) West Ham (a) Brighton Everton Leicester Huddersfield (a) Arsenal Palace (a) Watford
21st Apr Arsenal (a) Southampton Burnley Watford (a) Man City (a) Stoke (a) Palace Everton (a) Spurs Chelsea (a)
28th Apr Man City Palace (a) Liverpool (a) Leicester Chelsea Brighton Spurs (a) WBA Burnley (a) Everton
5th May Leicester (a) West Ham Palace Stoke (a) Bournemouth (a) Arsenal (a) Newcastle Watford (a) Man Utd Man City (a)
13th May Everton Spurs (a) Swansea (a) WBA Stoke Bournemouth Man Utd (a) Chelsea Liverpool (a) Arsenal


This is for UK viewers

The second season of the three year TV deal has the following packages:

Package A 28 at Sat 12.30pm Sky
- 6 1st picks
- 14 2nd picks
- 8 5th picks

Package B 28 at Sat 5.30pm BT
- 9 1st picks
- 12 3rd picks
- 7 5th picks

Package C 28 at Sun 1.30pm/2.15pm Sky
- 15 2nd picks
- 6 4th picks
- 7 5th picks

Package D 28 at Sun 4pm/4.30pm Sky
- 18 1st picks
- 10 4th picks

Package E 28 at Mon 8pm (min 18) or Fri 7.30pm/8pm (max 10) Sky
- 15 3rd picks
- 13 4th picks

Package F 6 midweek; 8 at Sat 12.30pm or Sat 5.30pm or Sun 12pm BT
- 3 1st picks
- 7 2nd picks
- 4 4th picks

Package G 8 Bank Hols; 6 at Sun 1.30pm/2.15pm or Sun 4pm/4.30pm Sky
- 2 1st picks
- 2 2nd picks
- 8 3rd picks
- 2 4th picks

Club Quotas (in alphabetical package order):
Maximum: 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3, 2 (Total = 29)
Minimum: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0 (Total = 5)

Pick Totals:
- 38 1st picks
- 38 2nd picks
- 35 3rd picks
- 35 4th picks
- 22 5th picks

Sky Ireland will only be able to show a team 5 times

Watford have provided the following information on when Sky and BT will announce their live fixtures so wait before booking flights and hotels

August & September Fixtures: Monday 10th July
October & November Fixtures: Friday 11th August
December & January Fixtures: Thursday 12th October
February Fixtures: Tuesday 12th December
March Fixtures: Thursday 25th January
April Fixtures: Monday 26th February
May Fixtures: Friday 6th April
Final Day Fixtures: After 37 games

pjohnson

Everton win the prize for nightmare start to the season anyway.

JPA

Manchester United

GavRedKing wrote: »

Tuchel is apparently favourite to take over at Southampton.

Maybe he was top of their list but that would have been a big coup.

GavRedKing

Chelsea

citytillidie wrote: »

Thought I would start this as it starts really when the new fixtures are announced.

Speaking of which

I f**ked up a merge so I've started your 2017/2018 thread which also includes a new poll