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Berlin Q or Bust: Road to sub 2:45
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Thanks for the above observations and sentiments! Eh, yeah, was just sort of bored. Fancied starting afresh with a Sub 2:45 log...and the title of the log sort of annoys me. All credit to the great Coach Eric Taylor, but it's actually not all about the try at this stage
Plus I was in a crap mood yesterday and looking for something to occupy the noodle. Anyway, THE LOG STAYS!
How does one go about changing the title of a thread? Did Swashbuckler do it before possibly?0 -
Thanks for the above observations and sentiments! Eh, yeah, was just sort of bored. Fancied starting afresh with a Sub 2:45 log...and the title of the log sort of annoys me. All credit to the great Coach Eric Taylor, but it's actually not all about the try at this stage Plus I was in a crap mood yesterday and looking for something to occupy the noodle. Anyway, THE LOG STAYS!
How does one go about changing the title of a thread? Did Swashbuckler do it before possibly?
Interested to know this too about title. Sick of giving Nike free advertising. 0 -
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There has been running going on after the overindulgence on display late last week.
Mon: 15km: 1:12:50@4:51/km
Cold. Wet. Miserable. Enjoyable.
I cannot, however, be dealing with hangovers anymore. Has to be done on occasion though.
Tue: 16.3km: 1:18:26@4:49/km
Wrapped up nice and warm and threw a couple of podcasts on to the watch. Lovely crisp morning out there.
Wed: Session: Progressive HM: 1:28:28@4:11/km
Was looking for something longish, but also the easier side of threshold pace, to shake off the cobwebs that were still firmly clinging on. This seemed like a good idea...
I also had gotten an Adidas voucher from my sister before Christmas ('they do running stuff yeah?'). Went online on the afternoon of the 21st. Only size available in the Adizero Adios Pro were a UK 10.5 which I always go for in Adidas because of their stupid conversion to 44&2/3's for a UK 10. It seemed like the fates had alligned; my sister randomly giving me an Adidas voucher, even though she knew i generally ran in Nike shoes, and my size being the ONLY pair available. I took the plunge, and even more amazingly, less than 48hrs later, they'd been delivered to the front door!
So anyway, despite my well documented travails with the 3 stripes, here I was heading out the door in their carbon plated offering.
The day had been a bit ropey, and my original plans to run in the morning had been scrapped as the impending lockdown meant I had to head out and take care of some birthday present shopping for my soon to be 9 years old eldest fella. So under fuelled and over caffeinated , I took off out the door in the afternoon. I'd a general plan to start at 7:50, and drop 10 secs each mile, which would see me finishing at 5:50.
Set up the watch so it was showing my lap pace IN MILES
This was the first time I had ever done such a crazy thing and I found it pretty off putting for the entire run tbh so I think i'll stick to the kms in the future.
About a km in and I'm more preoccupied as to whether I like what I'm feeling underfoot. Glance at pace, 7:15 looks back at me. That's not really gonna work out well for me so I slow it right down, and get the first mile in at 7:36. Subsequent splits were; 7:27, 7:22, 7:12, 7:03, 6:53, 6:45, 6:35, 6:26, 6:19, 6:09, 6:04, 5:53.
I said on Strava that the last mile felt like the finishing straight in Raheny, that eyeballs out effort. It's amazing what a few days of pigging out does to the system.
Shoes were ok. I'd be slow to jump to a conclusion after one run, but...yeah, not sure. Next% they are not. I'm not saying that in a good or bad way btw. The Lightstike foam isn't as bouncy as the Zoom X, that's 100% for sure. There's definitely something going on with the rods at the front of the shoe, and I felt once I ramped the pace up, the ride felt smoother. I'll give them another outing on a day when I'm in a bit better shape, but they didn't bowl me over. I'd much prefer the Next% and even the Endorphin Speed to them.
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Thanks for the above observations and sentiments! Eh, yeah, was just sort of bored. Fancied starting afresh with a Sub 2:45 log...and the title of the log sort of annoys me. All credit to the great Coach Eric Taylor, but it's actually not all about the try at this stage Plus I was in a crap mood yesterday and looking for something to occupy the noodle. Anyway, THE LOG STAYS!
How does one go about changing the title of a thread? Did Swashbuckler do it before possibly?
yeah - I changed mine 'cos I had a stupid name.........(says "AuldManKing" )
Would have liked to keep it going with a name change but couldn't.
If you change it to a 'Sub 2.45' log - that's not really a challenge to you, is it.
You could run 2.45 in Spring (if there was a Marathon)........then what?0 -
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Starting a new chapter in my training log.
Chapter 1: 'It's all in the try...' Post #'s 1-1364 inclusive, told the tale of my journey from an 83min Frank Duffy debut in 2015 to an aspiring sub 2:45 marathoner at the end of 2020.
It's all there for posterity now and I often enjoy reading back on past races and training blocks. I really enjoy logging and sharing my running, and the more visitors the better! Maybe the new title might bring some new eyes to the log whilst holding on to all the Boardsies that frequent these parts currently
PS. Sorry to Murph for plagiarizing the title of his previous log.0 -
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Duanington wrote: »I wore a pair of adios 3s in DCM last year and had a bad day at the office (as you know), probably 1% down to the shoes and 99% down to the condition the old chassis was in but I don't think I've worn them since !
Yeah you're probably right DD. They don't offer much protection though, even versus a pair of Streaks, never mind the Vaporflys etc. I switched to an old pair of Brooks ST5's for Limerick after Rotterdam that time and ended up with the biggest blister you could ever imagine on the sole of my right foot and a blood tinted left shoe, but I'd piece of mind during the race and that was enough that day 0 -
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More details on the first couple of runs on an earlier post, but I may log the whole week in one post seeing as it's a new chapter and all that
Mon: 15km: 1:12:50@4:51/km
Tue: 16.3km: 1:18:26@4:49/km
Wed: Session: Progressive HM down to Tempo pace: 1:28:28@4:11/km
7:36, 7:27, 7:22, 7:12, 7:03, 6:53, 6:45, 6:35, 6:26, 6:19, 6:09, 6:04, 5:53.
Thu: 11.4k Easy: 57:15 @5:01/km
Grim conditions to end the year's efforts. 5142km for the year.
Fri: 8 Miles: 1:04:23 @5:00/km
A nice few Franziskaner the previous evening had me a little dulled in the morning, but headed out on the plains on a glorious afternoon. Mud, hills, sh1te...just lovely.
Sat: 14.1k Easy: 1:05:48 @4:40/km
Lovely relaxed run on another glorious afternoon.
Sun: 18.1k Easy: 1:27:59 @4:51/km
Planned a LR session but the roads were pretty poor. I could have pushed on, but the chances of falling or getting a slap of a car were too high for me. Got back home and drove up to the plains for an easy one. Window I had meant I couldn't even go long, but I'd a decent week mileage wise so I wasn't overly bothered. Will get sessions if weather and my windows for running allows it this week, but won't be taking any chances.
111k for the week.0 -
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Mon: 13.3k: 1:05:25 @4:56/km
Out on the freezing, windy and sleety plains. Just loved this one. Terra Kigers on, going down trails I wouldn't usually run on, ended up crossing over horsebridge and coming up through the racecourse, down the finishing straight and all great fun.
Tue: 10 Miles Easy: 1:21:16 @5:03/km
Bit of an effort to find roads that were runnable. Went with a buddy and ended up just heading out the dual carraigway towards Shelbyville as those roads were gritted.
Extra mile in the afternoon with the two boys. Club are doing a virtual marathon during January for the juveniles. T Shirt and medal for all with monies donated to Barrettstown.
Wed: Usually my wife's day off, but she was on standby to get a call to go up to the Coombe to get her Covid-19 vaccine, so planned on getting in a session in the evening, 3x2Mile Threshold. Then the news dropped regarding schools closing/special classes opening which meant I'd a few things to try and sort out. Head was fried then and run was canned. This would continue into....
Thu: 12.9k: 57:55 @4:29/km.
...Thing's were spiralling out of control at this stage. Loads of questions, issues piling up from staff and parents that I'd no answers to or guidance on from the DES. Added to this some childcare issues with my own two fellas Finished up a Zoom call at around 8 and just threw on the runners and got out the door. Roads were treacherous but I didn't really care, just tried to follow gritted roads in the town.
Came home to news that schools were in fact not re-opening. From the moment they announced it was happening, to the moment they announced it wasn't, not a single shred of communication did we get. Hopefully things will get under control and we can open up schools fully asap. No craic.0 -
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Lambay island wrote: »Fair play, getting out for a run after all that. Must be a nightmare to manage. My wife is a secondary teacher and has two 6th year classes. I had absolutely no idea how I was going to manage solo childcare, home school and work until that 6th year decision got revoked last night. The lack of communication and thought process put into some of these decisions are frightening.
I read the letter from the CMO about the reopening/closing of schools and it really stands out that it's the 19-24yr old age bracket that is a bigger issue than school age children and yet 3rd level have gotten no instruction to close
They are mostly teaching online but some labs and apprentices continue on campus and campus remain open with ancillary staff on site canteen, cleaning, security, facility services and so on. And with lectures continuing albeit online students are still house-sharing with other students in their college towns and possibly going home at weekends :eek: My mum lives in an area densely populated by university students and they are moving between houses to socialise in the evening time. No denying it is really really tough on this age group but the restrictions don't seem to be targeting this group. Sorry went off on a bit of rant.
J I hope ye get more guidance soon. Sister in law is a principle in a big urban deis school and is in the same boat, I don't envy ye at all. Neither am I excited about working from home while parenting full-time again (I won't even mention home-schooling forget it :rolleyes:). Hopefully schools can reopen soon for everyone.0 -
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Fri: 8 Miles Easy: 1:03:59@4:58/km
Roads were still pretty poor so I just took off to the plains and got in another enjoyable run, taking in some routes that wouldn't ordinarily be very runnable.
Sat: Roads a write off again so when I got a text off a mate to see if I wanted to do a few hills, I said why not. Wasn't really in the mood to do anything too hard as I'd sort of written the week off session-wise, but a few varied hill reps appealed to me. Got up to Braveheart hill and realised watch was dead. Did approx 4 miles warm up and then back to the car to get the watch and to meet my mate. Did 4x500m on the regular hill. Underfoot conditions were pretty poor and whilst I've loved running in the Terra Kigers this week, doing a hill session in them on a frozen solid and icy hill was prob a step too far. Never felt comfortable but got the body woken up. Went up the side hill then, only about 150m but prob ave about 15/16% gradient. Did 4 on that and I was happy enough to leave it at that!
About 15k for the day
Sun: 16 Miles: 1:54:48@4:27/km inc 4 x 3km @6:40/mile off 1km easy.
Went out with a couple of mates on non-frozen roads for this one. Wasn't sure how I was feeling after a fairly 'meh' week quality-wise, but once the efforts kicked in I felt like a new man. Was cruising for the 3k sections and it was a nice way to end the week.
101k for the week despite the day off and all the other drama.
May decide on a plan of action now. I know what I'm doing from June - October...what to do before that is the question.0 -
Mon: 15.8k: 1:20:37 @5:07/km
Usual Monday shuffle listening to Runner Beans pod. John Travers was a great listen. No airs or graces about him, came across as a self confident athlete who looked at training and competing in a very straightforward way. His approach of longer intervals and tempos, keeping strong year round and then pivoting to some shorter stuff around races really appealed to me!
Tue: 11.4k: 53:56 @4:46/km
Picked up a pair of New Balance Fuelcell Speedrift recently and threw them on for this one. Nice shoe. Not dissimilar to the Fuellcell TC, but a lot more stable. Felt like a superior version of the Zoom Fly 3's. Interesting sole which gave a great grip in the wet conditions.
Wed: 17.5k: 1:11:40 @4:06/km inc 3x2Miles @threshold off 3mins
First decent session since before Christmas really. Threw the Speedrift on again and they felt really good on this run too. Started on the loop but was getting bored so came off it about a mile into the first effort and went out and about the back roads of the Curragh. It would affect the splits but I wasn't bothered about that as I just needed a bit of variety that day for whatever reason. Splits ended up as; 11:40, 11:48, 11:58. Last one was into a stiff enough breeze and was I was doing a good bit of gurning as I came home with a 6:03 mile as always with these things, felt the better for it afterwards.
Thu: 14k: 1:09:30 @4:57/km
Trot around the bog.
Fri: 16.8k: 1:09:11 @4:08/km inc 6 Miles MP-ish in 36:54
I'd posted some of my 'thinking out loud' on the random running thread about tempos and MP. I think I was debating with myself as to whether 6miles MP was sufficiently hard workout to do yesterday and could I even call it a 'tempo'
My understanding of Tempo pace would generally be the JD interpretation, but I know the term is fluid. For instance in my last Marathon block i was given sessions that were described as 'Controlled Tempo' which would have been 10/20 seconds per mile slower than my LT pace.
As I'm eyeing up sub 2:45 rather than sub 2:48 now, the 8 mile controlled tempo at 6:20 and the 6 mile at 6:10 that I found myself choosing between yesterday, suddenly didn't seem very worthy of the tag 'tempo'..... Hence my post on the other thread! Anyway, went with 6 miles at 6:10 and decided I'd freak out AMK and call it 6 miles at MP on Strava Had the Endorphin Speeds on for this one, and again they felt great at that pace. Had to shed some layers (I was up on the loop in the Camp) about 2.5 miles in as I'd completely overclubbed my rig out. As the 'MP', sorry, 'Tempo', sorry, 'Controlled Tempo' miles went on I felt better and better and by the end of the 6th I was debating doing a couple more, but I left things as they were.
There's the argument that I'm avoiding the shorter and harder stuff right now, and that's fair enough. Mentally, I don't know if I'm the place to do those sessions right now. These long, steady efforts just fit in nicely with where my headspace is at currently. Of course, this is all due to the fact that I'm off plan right now. Chatting with the man in charge over the weekend so will figure out the approach then. Feeling pretty strong atm which is good.0 -
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