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Engagement rings

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Elliott S wrote: »
    Hypocritical post alert! After all my talk, today, my fiancé and I decided that I should get a ring, for a few reasons. And here it is! (cost ~€200)

    https://s9.postimg.org/uxrqcg4en/Chupi_Web_Gold_Ring_Beauty_In_The_Wild_Emerald_Q.jpg

    Absolutely gorgeous ring. Well wear:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 694 ✭✭✭Broken Hearted Road


    I'm single but if there was ever a time in the future I met someone and we were go down this route I would never want someone to spend so much on a ring. I'd be happy with something fairly inexpensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    My first one cost me £150 but she fecked off with her cousin.

    Actually, that was the only one.

    I've been 'engaged to be married' 19 years now and haven't bought her a ring. I'll wait until the oul doll dies and use that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    Absolutely gorgeous ring. Well wear:)

    Thanks! :) I love green AND Chupi, so it's very me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    I asked my current wife of 30 years to marry me before I bought a ring. When (surprisingly) she accepted, we went shopping for the ring together. At the jewellers, my fiance zoned in on a tray of rings that were quite special. The salesman, to his eternal credit, said that that none of those rings were quite suitable for Madam's delicate fingers and he directed us to a more affordable selection.

    Now I know some out there will think that he had no right to make a 'Pretty Woman' type comment about what we could afford, but in those days people cared less about what others thought and more about what was the right thing to do. Years later I went back to the same shop and dropped serious wedge on an eternity ring which, to this day, looks beautiful on Madam's delicate finger beside her engagement ring

    I got the opposite when I went into a very well known Dublin jeweler. I had made an appointment, told them my budget and said what kind of stone she was after. They brought us a tray of rings with some of the rings nearly triple my budget. We were also told it's generally 3 months salary, albeit in a jokey way which was meant to be serious.
    I was fuming to say the least and walked out, we booked a flight to Antwerp that evening where they actually listen to you and if you're in the market for an overpriced piece of carbon, then you will get a lot more for your money there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    petrolcan wrote: »
    My first one cost me £150 but she fecked off with her cousin.

    ...

    Lucky escape you had there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    It's up to everyone what they do with their money but I personally would not want a ring costing that much. Too scared to lose it/damage it and probably wouldn't enjoy wearing it. I've seen some gorgeous looking ones in jewelry shops for 1000/ 2000 so would be more than happy with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I didn't buy an engagement ring for herself when I proposed, instead we went around jewellers later that day and I let her pick one out as I knew she'd pick a better design than whatever I'd take a guess on.

    Luckily she's not really that kind of person into big expensive or ellaborate rings but she got a real nice one for about €150. She wears it with the wedding ring as they compliment each other perfectly so she had better foresight than I would have had I picked whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    I don't understand why people get so annoyed about engagement rings and talk incessantly about how they lose their value. Don't see half as much talk about the loss in value of cars for example which pretty much lose value the second you drive off in it.

    Hopefully you won't be reselling your engagement ring..That's not really the thought process you have anyway when buying it! And honestly who cares what someone else spends on it? It's something a woman will wear on her hand hopefully forever...so the important thing is that she really loves it...and it doesn't cripple them buying it! If someone can afford 8k then off with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I don't think there's anything wrong with engagement rings but the obsession with diamonds and cost is weird.

    I'm surprised no-one posted this



    and whilst we're at it, this too.





    There's plenty of beautiful rings that don't have a diamond in them, why not get them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    Grayson wrote: »
    I don't think there's anything wrong with engagement rings but the obsession with diamonds and cost is weird.

    I'm surprised no-one posted this



    and whilst we're at it, this too.





    There's plenty of beautiful rings that don't have a diamond in them, why not get them?

    Loads of people do. Others don't. What's the big deal? Why do you care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    jaja321 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people get so annoyed about engagement rings and talk incessantly about how they lose their value. Don't see half as much talk about the loss in value of cars for example which pretty much lose value the second you drive off in it.

    Hopefully you won't be reselling your engagement ring..That's not really the thought process you have anyway when buying it! And honestly who cares what someone else spends on it? It's something a woman will wear on her hand hopefully forever...so the important thing is that she really loves it...and it doesn't cripple them buying it! If someone can afford 8k then off with them.

    There is societal pressure to spend as much as you can, that's why they say two or three months wages. If you can afford 8k but spend €100 you're seen as cheap. And even if you're broke then if you buy a tiny ring people go "aww, but the thought counts". A traditional present giving is fine but it's a weird backward situation.
    Derrida said there's no such thing as a true gift. In giving a gift the other person feels an obligation to reciprocate. In this case however the obligation is on the giver. If they don't live up to it then the other person can feel undervalued. (I say can, not all people will).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    jaja321 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people get so annoyed about engagement rings and talk incessantly about how they lose their value. Don't see half as much talk about the loss in value of cars for example which pretty much lose value the second you drive off in it.

    Hopefully you won't be reselling your engagement ring..That's not really the thought process you have anyway when buying it! And honestly who cares what someone else spends on it? It's something a woman will wear on her hand hopefully forever...so the important thing is that she really loves it...and it doesn't cripple them buying it! If someone can afford 8k then off with them.
    Is this some new breed of woman that will live forever?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    jaja321 wrote: »
    Loads of people do. Others don't. What's the big deal? Why do you care?

    Am I wrong to care about society or ponder why people act the way they do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    Grayson wrote: »
    Am I wrong to care about society or ponder why people act the way they do?

    No...just a bit odd to focus on the jewellery people choose to wear. It's hardly one of the big issues we need to address in society!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    My gf wanted a ring with a jewel rather than a diamond. It was hard to find something like what she wanted. In the end I found one for under €200. Used it for proposal and told her we would replace it if she could find something she liked with a better quality. She said she was happy with the one I got because it was exactly the look she wanted. Happy days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    jaja321 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people get so annoyed about engagement rings and talk incessantly about how they lose their value. Don't see half as much talk about the loss in value of cars for example which pretty much lose value the second you drive off in it.

    Hopefully you won't be reselling your engagement ring..That's not really the thought process you have anyway when buying it! And honestly who cares what someone else spends on it? It's something a woman will wear on her hand hopefully forever...so the important thing is that she really loves it...and it doesn't cripple them buying it! If someone can afford 8k then off with them.

    A car is actually useful for something whereas a piece of jewelry is useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭jaja321


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    A car is actually useful for something whereas a piece of jewelry is useless.

    A car to get you from a to b doesn't have to cost a fortune either but people still continue to 'invest' in more expensive options than they need..despite the fact that it loses value rapidly.
    Personal choice and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    A car is actually useful for something whereas a piece of jewelry is useless.

    Yes, but a luxury car is only marginally more useful (at best) than a standard car. The difference in price is not justified by an increase in usefulness.

    My 16 year-old car gets me anywhere I need to go. If I was really into cars I might invest in a newer, fancier one, but I don't need to. It would be a luxury purchase for me - the same as an expensive piece of jewellery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Yes, but a luxury car is only marginally more useful (at best) than a standard car. The difference in price is not justified by an increase in usefulness.

    My 16 year-old car gets me anywhere I need to go. If I was really into cars I might invest in a newer, fancier one, but I don't need to. It would be a luxury purchase for me - the same as an expensive piece of jewellery.
    The novelty of a new car wears off long before the repayments. I've never seen more new cars than this year and if you're a woman over 30 you can't be seen in anything less than a 161 oversized people carrier, suv.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Speaking of engagement rings... What's the deal with letting a woman keep the ring if the relationship ends before marriage?

    I know a guy who did that. Now to be fair on him he would be the first to admit how stupid he was now. But the cheek of her! In fact, the cheek of anyone who asks to keep it.
    Because there is only one thing you're gonna do with an ex's engagement ring and that's pawn it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Speaking of engagement rings... What's the deal with letting a woman keep the ring if the relationship ends before marriage?

    I know a guy who did that. Now to be fair on him he would be the first to admit how stupid he was now. But the cheek of her! In fact, the cheek of anyone who asks to keep it.
    Because there is only one thing you're gonna do with an ex's engagement ring and that's pawn it.

    He's entitled to get it back. He can bring her to court if she refuses.

    Citizens info link posted earlier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    jaja321 wrote: »
    A car to get you from a to b doesn't have to cost a fortune either but people still continue to 'invest' in more expensive options than they need..despite the fact that it loses value rapidly.
    Personal choice and all that.
    But it's losing value for a reason, it's being worn away. Plus depending on the car it's going to go down to a minimal value and may start going up again if it's considered a desirable car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Smondie wrote: »
    He's entitled to get it back. He can bring her to court if she refuses.

    Citizens info link posted earlier

    Cheers but happened to him over ten years ago. I doubt he's hardly that pushed now lol.

    I just mention it because it makes me think like how dare someone. I've heard the cobblers before about wanting a momento ... But a momento is a stuffed toy, an item of clothing etc. The cheek like.

    To say that a relationship is over but hold on I wanna keep this expensive thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    Speaking of engagement rings... What's the deal with letting a woman keep the ring if the relationship ends before marriage?

    I know a guy who did that. Now to be fair on him he would be the first to admit how stupid he was now. But the cheek of her! In fact, the cheek of anyone who asks to keep it.
    Because there is only one thing you're gonna do with an ex's engagement ring and that's pawn it.

    What would he want it back, just out of interest ??

    You wont actually get anything for it if you try and sell it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    D3V!L wrote: »
    What would he want it back, just out of interest ??

    You wont actually get anything for it if you try and sell it.

    Well I've talked to him over the years about it. You know, gets mentioned from time to time. As things do.
    He wasn't pushed about getting it back then and he moved on.

    Guess I am injecting my own opinion on this one. As I say the cheek of anyone to ask. When a relationship ends it sad and it sucks. But two people move on with their lives. So why let the other keep the ring?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Fabb


    A fool and his money will always part ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't want to hear about people picking their rings, I don't care how common it is.

    But they were picking each other's rings, which is less common


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Oxkb4e


    Anyone ever use jewel star in temple bar. Would you recommend them for engagement rings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    A friend of mine got engaged recently, apparently he spent eight grand on the ring! I didn't ask, he told us in the Whatsapp group. It's his money but personally I think that amount is ridiculous.

    How much was spent on yours? They used to flog the whole "three months salary" guff (which was a great campaign) but curious to know what the going rate is now-a-days.

    The entire concept of the diamond engagement ring is the best advertising campaign of the 20th century. What a load of superficial twaddle.
    My wife's cost me well over 2 grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    smash wrote: »
    Diamonds are the biggest scam on the planet.

    sure are, it costs 30c US a carrot to make them and artificial ones can be made far more perfect than nature but aren't allowed by used in the industry...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    sure are, it costs 30c US a carrot to make them and artificial ones can be made far more perfect than nature but aren't allowed by used in the industry...

    It's not about value it's about perception


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Tigger wrote: »
    It's not about value it's about perception

    exactly why it's stupid...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭utmbuilder


    i guess if it does last and she has it on her for her life she will get her moneys worth

    but your right with kids, house deposits, the wedding, and everything else, everyone is living millionaire lifestyles without the means


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Oxkb4e wrote: »
    Anyone ever use jewel star in temple bar. Would you recommend them for engagement rings?

    You should probably check out the wedding forum. This is AH and a thread about engagement rings here is where people bitch about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    No chance and I'm pretty sure my other half would kill me if I spent anything like that on a ring even if it was for her.
    I'm considering the engagement over Xmas so engagement rings has been in my head obviously but I won't be spending anymore than a month's salary on it, much rather but the extra money into the actual wedding , or the house and kids and thing's we actually need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    Diamonds are great cutting tools. Gold is a great conductor. Silver kills werewolves. I'd love nothing more than to say people who ware expensive jewellery are just stupid magpies because I don't see the value in it. Unfortunately I'd be a hypocrite. I've bought my GF jewellery because I had to get her a gift and she likes shiny ****. I've spend 70 euro's on a hat at a Christmas market as I liked the look and if I had more disposable income, I would have no issue paying 200 for that style of hat. Someone bedecked in jewellery could say I'm a stupid hipster for such an expenditure. Prospect of spending a grand on an engagement ring makes me nauseous. GF says she wouldn't like an expensive ring but women are tricksy like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    fizzypish wrote: »
    GF says she wouldn't like an expensive ring but women are tricksy like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭mcgiggles


    I'm engaged and if he told me the ring cost 8k I'd box the head off him haha.. For 8k I'd want the ring, the honeymoon, and a wedding band at the very least!! (musical band not jewellery band!)


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