PS4 Pro general stuff.

Otacon · 20-10-2016 9:43am

Tesco dropped the price of the Pro this morning in the UK to £299 so I jumped on it.

It's already back up to £332.49. Hopefully, they honour it.

jonerkinsella · 20-10-2016 9:46am

^^ how long will delivery take ? Are you going through the north with delivery ?

Otacon · 20-10-2016 9:51am

jonerkinsella wrote: »

^^ how long will delivery take ? Are you going through the north with delivery ?

Live in London. Should only take a day or two.

MilesMorales1 · 20-10-2016 10:02am

Otacon wrote: »

Live in London. Should only take a day or two.

Do they charge straight away or on dispatch?

Otacon · 20-10-2016 10:11am

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Do they charge straight away or on dispatch?

Straight away apparently. Just waiting for it to appear on my banking app to be sure.

Taltos · 20-10-2016 10:16am

Already price back up and sold out.... Great catch there.

Otacon · 20-10-2016 11:18am

Taltos wrote: »

Already price back up and sold out.... Great catch there.

Yeah, saw a tweet from PostABargain and pounced on it before I left for work. By the time I got to work, it had already gone up again.

Lord Spence · 20-10-2016 11:24am

someone on HUKD said they bought at £299 but when they checked their account £335 was charged, so defo check your online banking

heebusjeebus · 20-10-2016 1:34pm

Eurogamer have their first comparison video between PS4 & the Pro
Supersampling for 1080p confirmed!!!

Mantis Burn Racing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgtYZpytJqM

FAILSAFE 00 · 20-10-2016 1:58pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Eurogamer have their first comparison video between PS4 & the Pro
Supersampling for 1080p confirmed!!!

Mantis Burn Racing:

They need to analyse a better game. That looks like a game from 2006.

I look forward to seeing something more relevant like a Battlefield 1 analysis.

heebusjeebus · 20-10-2016 2:06pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

They need to analyse a better game. That looks like a game from 2006.

I look forward to seeing something more relevant like a Battlefield 1 analysis.

BF1 is not a native 4K game though.

Varik · 20-10-2016 2:11pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

BF1 is not a native 4K game though.

Current systems aren't even 1080p native, only have it at 720p on Xbox and 900p PS4.

heebusjeebus · 20-10-2016 2:17pm

Varik wrote: »

Current systems aren't even 1080p native, only have it at 720p on Xbox and 900p PS4.

Did I say they were? I posted the video from Eurogamer as it's the first comparison of a 4K NATIVE game running on the Pro and the same game running at 1080p on vanilla.

There are drops in the Pro running at 4K. Makes me glad I'm not upgrading my TV anytime soon.
I'm looking forward to seeing the supersampled 1080 image though, especially if it's going to be done for all other games.

How Soon Is Now · 20-10-2016 2:23pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Did I say they were? I posted the video from Eurogamer as it's the first comparison of a 4K NATIVE game running on the Pro and the same game running at 1080p on vanilla.

There are drops in the Pro running at 4K. Makes me glad I'm not upgrading my TV anytime soon.
I'm looking forward to seeing the supersampled 1080 image though, especially if it's going to be done for all other games.

How and if it changes gaming on a full hd tv is what im really looking forward to seeing.

I reckon this would be a major selling point for a lot of potential customers who already have a perfect working ps4 and dont want or need to upgrade to 4k yet.

Penn · 20-10-2016 2:40pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

How and if it changes gaming on a full hd tv is what im really looking forward to seeing.

I reckon this would be a major selling point for a lot of potential customers who already have a perfect working ps4 and dont want or need to upgrade to 4k yet.

I mean it's not going to change gaming in any real sense at all bar making it look a bit nicer. PSVR is what will truly change gaming this gen if it's properly supported.

How Soon Is Now · 20-10-2016 3:08pm

Penn wrote: »

I mean it's not going to change gaming in any real sense at all bar making it look a bit nicer. PSVR is what will truly change gaming this gen if it's properly supported.

Id be happy with a performance boost of some sort from the pro for hd.

That and better support for the VR.

TitianGerm · 20-10-2016 3:30pm

Penn wrote: »

I mean it's not going to change gaming in any real sense at all bar making it look a bit nicer. PSVR is what will truly change gaming this gen if it's properly supported.

I like the idea of VR but I don't see many major franchise games coming to it in the next few years.

I'll still probably pick up the PSVR at some stage next year but I'm not in a hurry yet.

Penn · 20-10-2016 3:59pm

emmetkenny wrote: »

I like the idea of VR but I don't see many major franchise games coming to it in the next few years.

I'll still probably pick up the PSVR at some stage next year but I'm not in a hurry yet.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. As I said, it depends on how well it's supported. It's going to need some killer games, not just for short term, but if in a few years there's a PS5 and they come out with a PSVR2, it could be fantastic.

heebusjeebus · 21-10-2016 8:02am

Interesting article on the PS Pro on Eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-inside-playstation-4-pro-how-sony-made-a-4k-games-machine

A lot to digest but what has me worried is that games need to have the Pro patch in order to use the extra GPU and CPU. If not, the Pro will just restrict performance to vanilla PS4 levels.
I might cancel my pre-order for this now and see how it all washes out. My hopes were for games like Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 to get an automatic boost in order to hold the framerate at 30FPS. Going by this article, that's not the case unless there is a patch. Really disappointing.

Otacon · 21-10-2016 8:20am

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Interesting article on the PS Pro on Eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-inside-playstation-4-pro-how-sony-made-a-4k-games-machine

A lot to digest but what has me worried is that games need to have the Pro patch in order to use the extra GPU and CPU. If not, the Pro will just restrict performance to vanilla PS4 levels.
I might cancel my pre-order for this now and see how it all washes out. My hopes were for games like Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 to get an automatic boost in order to hold the framerate at 30FPS. Going by this article, that's not the case unless there is a patch. Really disappointing.

A standard PS4 has 8 Jaguar cores clocked at 1.6GHz while the Pro has the same number of cores clocked at 2.1GHz so that in itself should help with framerate.

Also, there are 18 Radeon GCN compute units at 800MHz in a standard PS4. The Pro has 36 improved GCN compute units at 911MHz. To run in legacy mode, the Pro will be running 18 of these improved cores.

All of this means that, actually, there will be a boost but no, it won't use all of the power of the Pro.

heebusjeebus · 21-10-2016 8:41am

Otacon wrote: »

A standard PS4 has 8 Jaguar cores clocked at 1.6GHz while the Pro has the same number of cores clocked at 2.1GHz so that in itself should help with framerate.

Also, there are 18 Radeon GCN compute units at 800MHz in a standard PS4. The Pro has 36 improved GCN compute units at 911MHz. To run in legacy mode, the Pro will be running 18 of these improved cores.

All of this means that, actually, there will be a boost but no, it won't use all of the power of the Pro.

That's not what's going to happen though, they are actively gimping the Pro for "base PS4" games.

From the article:

We just turn off half the GPU and run it at something quite close to the original GPU

and...

But what about deploying the additional Pro GPU power in base PS4 mode, similar to the Xbox One S? Or even just retaining the 111MHz GPU frequency boost? For Sony, it's all about playing it safe, to ensure that the existing 700 titles just work.

"I've done a number of experiments looking for issues when frequencies vary and... well... [laughs] I think first and foremost, we need everything to work flawlessly. We don't want people to be conscious of any issues that may arise when they move from the standard model to the PS4 Pro."

Otacon · 21-10-2016 8:57am

heebusjeebus wrote: »

That's not what's going to happen though, they are actively gimping the Pro for "base PS4" games.

From the article

Both of those refer to the GPU though. Framerates live and die by the CPU which is getting a boost.

Varik · 21-10-2016 9:25am

Otacon wrote: »

Both of those refer to the GPU though. Framerates live and die by the CPU which is getting a boost.

Any cursory look at benchmark would show otherwise. Instances where the CPU is the bottleneck are limited.

coffeeJohn92 · 21-10-2016 11:59am

Just a question for anyone who can help.
Where's the best place to pre-order the PS4 Pro to get it on release day or the next day via delivery?

Few sites I've seen were gamestop, smyths, amazon. Which in your opinion would be the best to go with?

Thinking of using Amazon with Parcel Motel but not sure will I get it on release day. Anyone got experience going this route?

Lord Spence · 21-10-2016 12:33pm

coffeeJohn92 wrote: »

Just a question for anyone who can help.
Where's the best place to pre-order the PS4 Pro to get it on release day or the next day via delivery?

Few sites I've seen were gamestop, smyths, amazon. Which in your opinion would be the best to go with?

Thinking of using Amazon with Parcel Motel but not sure will I get it on release day. Anyone got experience going this route?

Some people recently got their PSVR's delivered a day early with gamestop so maybe that would be your best bet

Captain Chaos · 21-10-2016 12:38pm

coffeeJohn92 wrote: »

Just a question for anyone who can help.
Where's the best place to pre-order the PS4 Pro to get it on release day or the next day via delivery?

Few sites I've seen were gamestop, smyths, amazon. Which in your opinion would be the best to go with?

Thinking of using Amazon with Parcel Motel but not sure will I get it on release day. Anyone got experience going this route?

Amazon won't ship here even with PM for the PS4Pro, don't know why. Even then Amazon would be a day or two after, they never ship early. The Pro is actually more expensive in sterling even with the good exchange rate right now.

Gamstop will have it delivered for release day, they did with my PS4. I have preordered online with them.

coffeeJohn92 · 21-10-2016 12:45pm

Cheers for the replys will go with gamestop then.

Denisoftus · 21-10-2016 8:36pm

with Smyths you can collect on the day of release, from 9AM, but with gamestop you can actually have it a day earlier if you lucky

Lucreto · 23-10-2016 9:58am

Amazon are currently shipping to Ireland,

They were price matching Tesco in the UK and I have it preordered there for £332.49.

It's only a saving of €30 if the exchange rate holds up.

Varik · 23-10-2016 12:08pm

Lucreto wrote: »

Amazon are currently shipping to Ireland,

They were price matching Tesco in the UK and I have it preordered there for £332.49.

It's only a saving of €30 if the exchange rate holds up.

Had a price watch on it and it never showed up

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