The Sopranos....

Agent Coulson

The movie was due for release last month and is now pushed till March 2021.

mloc123

Started watching it again a couple of weeks ago... this will be the third full watch I think, still great

El_Duderino 09

I loved the ending. It was pretty clear the writing was on the wall for Tony. They spent so long spelling out how these things go and in the end the guy in Tony's position ended up getting killed by hook or by crook.

The diner scene was the perfect end as it showed the constant dangers all around him. It didn't have to be a big shootout or a massive scene like a wedding. It could be anyone at any time but it was almost certainly coming.

tipptom

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I loved the ending. It was pretty clear the writing was on the wall for Tony. They spent so long spelling out how these things go and in the end the guy in Tony's position ended up getting killed by hook or by crook.

The diner scene was the perfect end as it showed the constant dangers all around him. It didn't have to be a big shootout or a massive scene like a wedding. It could be anyone at any time but it was almost certainly coming.

I dont know,David Chase has stuck religiously throughout the series on how the mob operated and how hits were done on mafia heads.

May be wrong but i dont think any head of a family has ever been taken out in a family restaurant while dining with his family.
They have always been taken out in a mob eating house of habit with other members or bodyguards while usually been tipped off that they were going to be there.
Why would a hitman track Tony and wait until he got to a busy family restaurant and sit at the counter in full view of everybody to be identified when the logical place to take Tony out would have been before he got to the diner and when he was on his own.
The members only guy was a plant by Chase to give the viewer the doubt that something could have happened but leave it in such a way that they could have done a post series film or special on how Tony and his crew were doing afterwards.
Sadly this was not to be with JGs untimely death.

Then again i keep getting steered back to Bobby surmising that when you get hit that "everything goes to black".

Its the beauty of The Sopranos and why it was the greatest series ever made.

El_Duderino 09

tipptom wrote: »

I dont know,David Chase has stuck religiously throughout the series on how the mob operated and how hits were done on mafia heads.

May be wrong but i dont think any head of a family has ever been taken out in a family restaurant while dining with his family.
They have always been taken out in a mob eating house of habit with other members or bodyguards while usually been tipped off that they were going to be there.
Why would a hitman track Tony and wait until he got to a busy family restaurant and sit at the counter in full view of everybody to be identified when the logical place to take Tony out would have been before he got to the diner and when he was on his own.
The members only guy was a plant by Chase to give the viewer the doubt that something could have happened but leave it in such a way that they could have done a post series film or special on how Tony and his crew were doing afterwards.
Sadly this was not to be with JGs untimely death.

Then again i keep getting steered back to Bobby surmising that when you get hit that "everything goes to black".

Its the beauty of The Sopranos and why it was the greatest series ever made.

I don't assume he was killed in the diner. I think it laid out how suspicious Tony had become and how his suspicion was totally justified because he was almost bound to be killed at some point in the near-meduim term.

That scene was great because it showed how potential danger was everywhere.

tipptom

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don't assume he was killed in the diner. I think it laid out how suspicious Tony had become and how his suspicion was totally justified because he was almost bound to be killed at some point in the near-meduim term.

That scene was great because it showed how potential danger was everywhere.

I prefer to think Tony went on to work well with Butchie and New York once the Shah of Iran was out of the picture with Sil back as his consigliere albeit from a wheelchair, and Paulie trying to avoid getting p@ss on his shoe laces while telling underlings "Dont get cu*ty".

It was a haphazard career to have and if you were not rubbed out by your own then there was a fair chance that the RICO act was going to take you out, but there have been exceptions to that rule by pragmatic Dons,and Tony could be fairly pragmatic....for a phsycopath that is, lol.

AlphaDelta1

Great ending. I was pissed off at the time but it grew on me until tbh it made perfect sense.

Strumms

mloc123 wrote: »

Started watching it again a couple of weeks ago... this will be the third full watch I think, still great

It looses nothing. The opposite in fact, gets better the more you watch it.

Since it ended in 07 or 08 I’ve rewatched the full box set of shows twice but not for about five years, I think with the current life situation I’ll be kicking into it again soon.

What I like is that when you rewatch you pick up so many nuances not seen or not remembered from the previous watches. You are always discovering something new in a storyline, plot or scene.... not many other shows are like that... every episode was edge of your seat tv, even if a bullet wasn’t fired, words and psychological devilment would be.

dhaughton99

For those who don’t know, Christopher and Bobby Bacalla have a podcast where they do a rewatch and have guests on. It is absolutely hilarious. Every Monday.
Talking sopranos. https://www.talkingsopranos.com/

billyhead

I felt characters like Ralph, Phil @ Richie Aprille were brilliant.

tipptom

Strumms wrote: »

It looses nothing. The opposite in fact, gets better the more you watch it.

Since it ended in 07 or 08 I’ve rewatched the full box set of shows twice but not for about five years, I think with the current life situation I’ll be kicking into it again soon.

What I like is that when you rewatch you pick up so many nuances not seen or not remembered from the previous watches. You are always discovering something new in a storyline, plot or scene.... not many other shows are like that... every episode was edge of your seat tv, even if a bullet wasn’t fired, words and psychological devilment would be.

There is so much stuff that you could miss on even the second or third time around.

If you watch at Livias wake (one of the best wakes and most awkward wakes you will ever see on TV) when Tony,Sil and Paulie are talking in the hallway of Tonys house,Carmella pushes by them and opens a mirrored door/closet and big pussie is revealed in the mirror long after they took Pussy away on the boat to sleep with the fishes.

mloc123

Strumms wrote: »

What I like is that when you rewatch you pick up so many nuances not seen or not remembered from the previous watches. You are always discovering something new in a storyline, plot or scene.... not many other shows are like that... every episode was edge of your seat tv, even if a bullet wasn’t fired, words and psychological devilment would be.

Yup, picking up some small details I would have missed in the previous watch throughs... you also pick up nods to the future (knowing what does happen).

The episode where Ralph beats the stripper to death, previously I would have seen it as a filler episode because there isn't much to move the overall story along. This time around I saw it as it was... a comparison between all 4 characters sitting together having dinner with their wives vs the scenes in the bing with the hookers.

You need to be reminded every so often that these people, deep down are scum.

mloc123

tipptom wrote: »

There is so much stuff that you could miss on even the second or third time around.

If you watch at Livias wake (one of the best wakes and most awkward wakes you will ever see on TV) when Tony,Sil and Paulie are talking in the hallway of Tonys house,Carmella pushes by them and opens a mirrored door/closet and big pussie is revealed in the mirror long after they took Pussy away on the boat to sleep with the fishes.

Did you notice the guy that walked down the stairs in the background when they are all in the room talking about her? I wondered was this another ghost.. or a lost extra

tipptom

mloc123 wrote: »

Did you notice the guy that walked down the stairs in the background when they are all in the room talking about her? I wondered was this another ghost.. or a lost extra

Yes,the infamous man in black.

Some say it was the real owner of the house walked down and scurried back up when he thought they were just setting up.

I just think it was a guests comical reaction to Janice giving an awful akward speech about her mother,with Tony sweating profusely and Carmella getting trollied and Chrissie,Furio and Ade spaced out.

Chrissys high as a kite meandering about there possibly being another Livia out there somewhere in the universe was classic with an equally high Ade holding his hand and staring lovingly at him as if T S Elliot speaking words of wisdom

CastorTroy

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-sopranos-cast-reunion-how-to-watch-start-time

The two-hour Sopranos Virtual Holiday Reunion is raising money through Tiltify and will feature Steve Buscemi, David Chase, Edie Falco, Michael Imperioli, Robert Iler, Drea de Matteo, Vincent Pastore, Steve Schirripa, Jamie-Lynn Sigler, and more. Winter and Chase wrote a new sketch specifically for this Sopranos reunion that the cast will read during the event. The campaign is trying to fundraise a goal of $100,000, and donations are currently open.

Agent Coulson

I wonder will they show they trailer for the movie at that.

veryangryman

The Many Saints of Newark is being pushed out again.

Cmon TF.

rc27

I worked from home for the last 15 years and this show has been playing in the background thousands of times.

Love this show, Paulie stole it for me, when they were in italy and he kept interrupting tony and the part with the Italian escort in his hotel room.

So a new Sopranos comes out soon, with Tonys son I believe, a film I think it is.

Atlantic Dawn

rc27 wrote: »

I worked from home for the last 15 years and this show has been playing in the background thousands of times.

Love this show, Paulie stole it for me, when they were in italy and he kept interrupting tony and the part with the Italian escort in his hotel room.

So a new Sopranos comes out soon, with Tonys son I believe, a film I think it is.

I've begun watching Lilyhammer, very good, basically Silvio Dante moves to Norway and sets up a niteclub, it's up on Netflix...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVLP1H7DyS8

Agent Coulson

Trailer

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Trailer

I'll DEFINITELY give it a go.....but my expectations aren't high........ let's be honest the original is an all time classic... as a general rule spinoffs rarely make the grade.....as Tony would say..." whatya gonna do"

CastorTroy

This going to be one of these prequels where we finally find out things no one wondered about, like how Han Solo or Cruella got their names

The DayDream

IMO best TV show all time. Inevitably people will bring up The Wire and Breaking Bad which annoys me as neither show is even close.

Breaking Bad is the most overrated show ever. It's so cartoonish and unrealistic I dunno how anyone takes it seriously, though the 2 leads give great performances. Tbh it's usually the somewhat simple types who would never pickup on the subtle foreshadowing and callbacks that the Sopranos is peppered with that think BB is so brilliant. Another thing I don't like about BB is ending on too many cliffhangers.

The Wire is good but is just way too tedious at times and doesn't have as many memorable characters as The Sopranos, where even the minor characters are superbly cast. Guys like Joe Pantoliana (Ralph Cifaretto) Vincent Curatola (Johhny Sack) and the guy who played Richie Aprile are amazing in their roles even though they arent in the main cast.

What really separates The Sopranos from these shows is the level of comedy. The Sopranos dialogue is hilarious.

It's got it's flaws of course, especially the 1st season where it's still finding its feet. There are storylines like the Russians that are just dropped. Some of the whacking scenes are poorly done and there are some unrealistic/nonsensical things. And it borrows very heavily from Goodfellas, for example any time you see a guy walk outside and some 70s rock music starts playing you know he's about to be ambushed.

Thargor

James Gandolfinis son does not have the makings of a varsity actor, he didn't seem right in a single scene there. Why the focus on Christophers father being his mentor aswell? I want to see Paulie Walnuts, his father and uncle Junior, then again if they're not being played by their original actors who cares? The Sopranos from start to finish was the best casting you'll ever see in film or television, literally perfection, that just looks completely bland and pointless.

rob316

Thargor wrote: »

James Gandolfinis son does not have the makings of a varsity actor, he didn't seem right in a single scene there. Why the focus on Christophers father being his mentor aswell? I want to see Paulie Walnuts, his father and uncle Junior, then again if they're not being played by their original actors who cares? The Sopranos from start to finish was the best casting you'll ever see in film or television, literally perfection, that just looks completely bland and pointless.

Because the story is about the Moltisanti's, the translation of moltisanti is "many saints". Hence the title of the movie "the many saints of newark"

I'm excited, Chase even says depending on the success this could develop into a series.

tipptom

Thargor wrote: »

James Gandolfinis son does not have the makings of a varsity actor, he didn't seem right in a single scene there. Why the focus on Christophers father being his mentor aswell? I want to see Paulie Walnuts, his father and uncle Junior, then again if they're not being played by their original actors who cares? The Sopranos from start to finish was the best casting you'll ever see in film or television, literally perfection, that just looks completely bland and pointless.

I agree,he just does not look right as a gangster for me and i think its just Chase staying loyal to James by bringing the son in.

BTW,the only characters i did not like in the Sopranos was Tonys Father and the Junior in the flashback scenes,just found them overblown comic book characters and they didnt seem to be two guys who ran North Jersey.

Eduard Khil

Hope we see Tony and Jackie knock over Feech La Manna's card game an often told story and major part of Tony's lore in the show.

mloc123

Eduard Khil wrote: »

Hope we see Tony and Jackie knock over Feech La Manna's card game an often told story and major part of Tony's lore in the show.

And I kinda hope it was another of Tonys stories he had embellished

mloc123

tipptom wrote: »

BTW,the only characters i did not like in the Sopranos was Tonys Father and the Junior in the flashback scenes,just found them overblown comic book characters and they didnt seem to be two guys who ran North Jersey.

I read something on Reddit before... about how the flashbacks to Livia and Tonys father etc... were all in Tony's eyes... and that maybe what we saw wasn't the actual truth, just his rose tinted view of it

Eduard Khil

His ma doesn't seem too nice in the guidance counselors office discussion on Tonys SAT results.

Rolling her eyes that's the precursor of the Livia we got to see.