Massive Traffic Disruption Portmarnock 12th Sept to 8th Oct

dak

MASSIVE DISRUPTION FOR PORTMARNOCK

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There will be massive disruption in Portmarnock due to the closure of the Bridge over the Sluice river blocking all traffic into Portmarnock from the Baldoyle estuary end. I am currently working with the council to try and minimise the amount of time the bridge will be closed for and to pressurise Dublin Bus into providing extended 42 and a shuttle bus service for Portmarnock.

PROPOSED TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF PORTMARNOCK BRIDGE ON
REGIONAL ROAD R106, CO. DUBLIN

An application has been made for the temporary closure of Portmarnock Bridge on the Regional Road R106 immediately north east of the Coast Road / Station Road / Strand Road Roundabout. The purpose of the closure is to facilitate the reconstruction / refurbishment of the bridge.

The period of the proposed temporary closure will be from:
Monday 12th September at 06.00 hrs to Saturday 8th October at 18.00 hrs.

The alternative route for traffic travelling in the area during the proposed closure is as follows:

Traffic (excluding HGV’s and vehicles higher than 3.15m) travelling from Baldoyle will divert via Station Road, Drumnigh Road (R124), Blackwood Lane and Carrickhill Road to Strand Road (Portmarnock).

Traffic (excluding HGV’s and vehicles higher than 3.15m) travelling from Malahide or Portmarnock will use the same diversion route as above except in the opposite direction.

HGV’s and vehicles higher than 3.15m travelling from Baldoyle will divert via Station Road, Drumnigh Road (R124), Chapel Road, Malahide Road, Dublin Road and Malahide Village to Portmarnock.

HGV’s and vehicles higher than 3.15m travelling from Portmarnock will use the same diversion route as above except in the opposite direction i.e. will divert via Malahide Village, Malahide Road, Chapel Road, Drumnigh Road (R124) and Station Road to Baldoyle.

Any interested person may lodge an objection in writing with the Administrative Officer, Operations Department, Fingal County Council, Grove Road, Blanchardstown, Dublin 15 or via email to roads@fingal.ie to arrive no later than 5.00 p.m. on Thursday 25th August 2016.
Image of Portmarnock bridge © Copyright Ian Paterson and licensed for reuse under Creative Commons Licence

http://www.geograph.ie/photo/525908

neris

thats going to be great fun for son, nephew and niece getting to schools in Portmarnock from Baldoyle. Surely from a public transport (dublin bus) view point the alternative routes for buses is unviable and also for people getting to and from Portmarnock dart station on foot or car its going to be a messy time consuming adventure

Grolschevik

neris wrote:

thats going to be great fun for son, nephew and niece getting to schools in Portmarnock from Baldoyle. Surely from a public transport (dublin bus) view point the alternative routes for buses is unviable and also for people getting to and from Portmarnock dart station on foot or car its going to be a messy time consuming adventure

I would presume that they'd have to facilitate pedestrian access. To fail to do so would represent an unfeasible inconvenience.

dak

Currently Councillor Brian McDonagh has asked the Council for a pedestrian bridge but so far no news on this . Whatever about traffic being disrupted the amount of people who walk over this bridge daily to dart, scholools , shops etc would be totally put out and would be marooned .

Dak

Alan Farrell

There will be pedestrian access provided throughout the works.

Grolschevik

Alan Farrell wrote:

There will be pedestrian access provided throughout the works.

Until "the Attorney General says it's unconstitutional"...

FunGoose

It will be closed for almost 30 days! That's a very, very long time to close any road for works. There will be serious disruption in the surrounding areas for a month, affecting a hell of a lot of people.

Surely there is a way of completing the works in a shorter amount of time. I've seen much bigger bridges built in less than half the time.

jwwb

FunGoose wrote: »

I've seen much bigger bridges built in less than half the time.

Link???

FunGoose

jwwb wrote: »

Link???

I can't provide a link for something I saw, sorry.

Instead here's a link to a photo of the bridge. Massive eh:pac:

http://www.geograph.ie/photo/525908

Mech1

Surely the army could span that with some sort of temp bridge?

dslamjack

Originally posted by Mech1- Surely the army could span that with some sort of temp bridge?

If memory serve's me the Army provided a bailey bridge a few year's back for a similar busy bridge in Dublin,I can't remember exactly where and they have provided them down the country when bridges were damaged by flooding etc again if me auld memory serves me.

jwwb

Everything is possible with enough money. Question is whether it's worth spending the money vs the disruption vs alternatives available. A detour via Malahide looks a reasonable alternative.

FunGoose

jwwb wrote: »

A detour via Malahide looks a reasonable alternative.

I disagree. The junction at Station Road and Drumnigh Road never copes with even a little extra traffic. The junction at Chapel Road and Malahide Road will also be a disaster, especially with all the traffic turning right on to the Malahide Road.

It might be okay during parts of the day but in the morning and evening of the 20 working days it will be a disaster and at the weekends. And for a month:mad:

neris

see they have notice signs up on the portmarnock baldoyle road for night works (6pm-6am) on the road there aswell next week near the bridge over the mayne river

dak

Seemingly Fingal are still having discussion with land owners over pedestrian bridge according to a local business man who met with Fingal CC so even the pedestrian bridge is not 100% certain just now.

It also seems daft to do this work in Sept when we have the highest tides of the year ! ( Assuming that the bridge could survive without remedial work for another month)

Dak

Alan Farrell

dak wrote: »

..so even the pedestrian bridge is not 100% certain just now.

A pedestrian bridge is being provided, there is no uncertainty about it.

jwwb

https://www.facebook.com/fingalcoco/posts/1110694568986251
Update regarding Portmarnock Bridge R106 Closure

The original Portmarnock Bridge was built in 1900 and underwent widening/reconstruction in 1933. The construction date of the current bridge deck is unknown.
The replacement of the bridge is now necessary because of it’s current unsatisfactory condition which has been prioritised following an inspection of the 123 bridges across the County for which Fingal is responsible. The Consulting Engineers noted that the “steel deck and steel beams have been badly corroded with signs of water ingress” and they also noted “a vertical crack on the north abutment”. The major work to be carried out is the full replacement of the deck. Fully replacing the deck now will:
(1) avoid a series of closures in the future to carry out necessary ongoing repairs and
(2) remove any uncertainty about the functionality of the bridge for the foreseeable future.
Because of the impacts on traffic in the Portmarnock/Malahide area Fingal County Council has been focused on ensuring that the period of full closure is as short as possible and that inconvenience to the community and residents is minimised. The contractor will be working extended hours and Sat/Sun and it has been possible to reduce the time for the full closure as follows:
The bridge will close from 10.00am on Wednesday the 14th September, re-opening at the latest for Monday 26th September. It is likely, subject to the progress of the works, that the bridge will be open before the 26th. We will be giving regular updates to keep people advised.
Variable Messaging Signs (VMS) will be operational on both approaches to the bridge from Monday 5th September advising of the closure.
A draft Traffic Management Plan is being finalised in consultation with An Garda Síochána and Dublin Bus which will include:
- Diversion of HGVs from the area to the Malahide Road
- Temporary traffic lights on key junctions on the Druimnigh Road which will also be manned. Key existing traffic controlled junctions will also be monitored.
Dublin Bus are expected to advise of their revised bus routes shortly.
Works on a temporary pedestrian bridge and path to connect Strand Road to Station Road will commence on Monday 5th. Image 1 below is an indicative drawing showing the location of the temporary path. The path will be fenced and temporary lighting will be provided. Image 2 is an example of the type of ground matting that will be used.
The issue of building a temporary bridge for vehicular traffic during the closure has been raised. The following points can be made:-
- The eastern side of the existing bridge is a Special Area of Conservation (SAC).
- Using the western side (see Image 1) would create difficulties for vehicles using a temporary vehicular bridge. Coming from the Portmarnock Village side heading to Baldoyle, such a proposal would involve two 90 degree bends very close to one another before crossing the river and forming a T junction on the already constricted Station Road, which would give rise to conflicts with other road users, incl. pedestrians. The layout/geometry of the crossing would also create significant traffic delay and management issues.
- The abutments for the temporary bridge would have to be constructed in unpredictable ground conditions, prone to flooding and potential subsidence.
- The construction of a temporary road and bridge would necessitate significant excavations and involve substantially more HGV’s. This would lead to further delays for periods on Station Road and Strand Road during construction.
- The duration and cost of a new temporary road and bridge would be disproportionate to both the duration and cost of the refurbishment works.
Fingal County Council will be making all efforts to ensure that the maximum number of people are aware of the closure and that the period for the closure is minimised. While diversions and additional traffic management measures will be in place, there will be delays in traffic movements to and from the Portmarnock/Malahide area, particularly during peak times. People should allow extra time when planning their journeys.
We will be providing regular updates on Social Media, www.facebook.com/fingalcoco and Twitter @Fingalcoco

vg88

Anyone hear any updates about the 102 or 32? Nothing on dublin bus website

neris

theres no notification up at all about the bridge been closed. the councils normally have those orange light up signs out warning of future traffic disruption or roadworks that,ll be happening

neris

LXFlyer

Dublin Bus have posted an update with revised routes:
http://dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Diversions-on-Routes-32-32x-and-102/

Diversions on Routes 32, 32x and 102

Published on Wednesday, September 07, 2016

We wish to advise customers that due to essential maintenance Portmarnock Road Bridge will be closed from Wednesday 14th September 10:00 hrs to Wednesday 21st September 2016 06:00hrs.

Fingal County Council will be providing a limited shuttle bus service during the above times.

Route 32
From Talbot Street
Normal route to Station Road Roundabout near the Portmarnock Bridge Works before turning back towards Baldoyle Village to terminate at stop #914

Towards Talbot Street
Departs 10 minutes after its scheduled Malahide departure time from stop # 914 in Baldoyle operating towards Portmarnock before turning around at Station Road Roundabout to Pick up at Stop # 944 inbound back on to normal route.

Route 32x
Towards UCD Belfield will be departing at 07:15hrs and 07:45hrs
Starting in Portmarnock on the Carrickhill Road Stop # 3610 operating in the opposite direction via Wendell Ave, Coast Road, Malahide Village, turns right onto Swords Road operating normal route to Yellow Walls Road then diverts right onto the Malahide Road, Clarehall Avenue to Grange Road, Willie Nolan Road, Baldoyle Village and back on to normal route.

From UCD Belfield departing at 16:45hrs and 17:15hrs
Operate normal route to Fairview then divert onto Malahide road towards Malahide Village, Coast Road Strand Road, Carrickhill Road to Wendell Ave and terminate.

Route 102
From Dublin Airport
Normal route from the Dublin Airport to Carrickhill Road then divert left onto Strand Road and terminate at the Sands Hotel

Towards Dublin Airport
Will depart from Stop #3610 on Carrickhill Road 10 minutes after its scheduled Sutton Station departure time onto normal route.

Dizzyblonde

From Fingal Co. Council's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/fingalcoco/

neris

does anyone know if the shuttle bus service that fingal are putting on will be affected tomorrow by the bus strike? im taking it that the buses they are using are private companies and should be ok

LXFlyer

neris wrote: »

does anyone know if the shuttle bus service that fingal are putting on will be affected tomorrow by the bus strike? im taking it that the buses they are using are private companies and should be ok

One would imagine that it is a private operator and that it will operate.

vg88

Buses are operated by express bus. Got them today, nice shuttle buses for the week.

I presume they'll be operating tomorrow as they are contracted out to do so.

Grolschevik

https://www.facebook.com/fingalcoco/posts/1110694568986251
Update regarding Portmarnock Bridge R106 Closure

The replacement of the bridge is now necessary because of it’s current unsatisfactory condition which has been prioritised following an inspection of the 123 bridges across the County for which Fingal is responsible. The Consulting Engineers noted that the “steel deck and steel beams have been badly corroded with signs of water ingress” and they also noted “a vertical crack on the north abutment”. The major work to be carried out is the full replacement of the deck. Fully replacing the deck now will:
(1) avoid a series of closures in the future to carry out necessary ongoing repairs and
(2) remove any uncertainty about the functionality of the bridge for the foreseeable future.

It's serendipitous that they decided to do this work just in time to facilitate the heavy equipment for the building of, and the subsequent traffic of HGVs necessary for the running of, the Lidl to be built in the centre of the village.

jwwb

Bridge reopens at 1pm tomorrow (Wednesday)

neris

Going to operate as a 1 way though with delays

Buckfast W

Last weekend was talking to the engineer who closed the bridge, he said it was in a bad way and really needed to be repaired.

easygoing39

In fairness I didnt find the traffic disruption to be "massive" at all.And once they reopened it to 1 lane the delays were very minimal.I'd have to congratulate the Co Co on a very good traffic plan and quick work on the repair.

Michael8000

easygoing39 wrote: »

In fairness I didnt find the traffic disruption to be "massive" at all.And once they reopened it to 1 lane the delays were very minimal.I'd have to congratulate the Co Co on a very good traffic plan and quick work on the repair.

Appears to have proven to be similar hyperbole that has been on show from some parties in relation to the Dublin Airport runway saga.