2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Timberrrrrrrr

FISMA. wrote: »

Witch-hunt?

Today's information was found during an investigation of a middle aged man sexting a 15 year old girl.

That witch-hunt?

Hillary lies about Benghazi and an investigation in to that lie uncovers a personal server.

That witch hunt?

Seems like just rewards for perverts and liars.

You know Trump has a court case pending in relation to his rape of a 13 year old right?

scamalert

Watched presidential election since start and while Trump has his bright moments of ideas,i came to question why is he running for president ?
He piggy backed of his dad's loan,built his business from cheap immigrant labor,importing stuff from abroad,exporting his businesses abroad,running his own tv show and paying null in taxes but also benefited from recession.
His only political interests over decades was backing up losing presidents for hell knows what deals,and losing at every step.

Now his promises are loud but,as history shows every president does whatever it takes but his approach is different in a way where he wants total power and feels like everyone that rubbed him wrong would have it coming if he becomes one.
guess that's the real mystery why would someone having everything want to have total power in highest position.

RobertKK

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'm just wondering - what could possibly show up in Anthony Wiener or Huma Abedin's inboxes that could be so devastating to the Clinton campaign? What reason would she have to send classified documents to either of them?

There are claims from an NBC news reporter that the FBI were looking at Anthony Weiner's laptop and it was found Huma Abedin also used the laptop, and she was suppose to hand over to the FBI all the devices she used as part of the FBI investigation, and there were emails on the laptop between Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton.

RobertKK

scamalert wrote: »

Watched presidential election since start and while Trump has his bright moments of ideas,i came to question why is he running for president ?
He piggy backed of his dad's loan,built his business from cheap immigrant labor,importing stuff from abroad,exporting his businesses abroad,running his own tv show and paying null in taxes but also benefited from recession.
His only political interests over decades was backing up losing presidents for hell knows what deals,and losing at every step.

Now his promises are loud but,as history shows every president does whatever it takes but his approach is different in a way where he wants total power and feels like everyone that rubbed him wrong would have it coming if he becomes one.
guess that's the real mystery why would someone having everything want to have total power in highest position.

So he can live in the White House and be forever famous.

Trent Houseboat

FISMA. wrote: »

Witch-hunt?

Today's information was found during an investigation of a middle aged man sexting a 15 year old girl.

That witch-hunt?

Hillary lies about Benghazi and an investigation in to that lie uncovers a personal server.

That witch hunt?

Seems like just rewards for perverts and liars.

What?

I wrote that both sides making more of this than was avaliable to them.

I know the automatic response from alt right is "but but Benghazi", but it has no bearing on what I said. Then you're making it look as though I was defending a paedophile. You should have saved that for your next stock response.

RobertKK

On Anderson Cooper's program they said Huma Abedin is more than a close aide to Hillary Clinton, that she is basically the right arm and part of the brain of Hillary Clinton, that she is as close as a close family member to Hillary Clinton.
On NBC they said there are thousands of emails involved and they are between Huma and Hillary, and the FBI have to see if there is classified material on the laptop.

There might be nothing, but if Hillary is elected and there is a problem then a special prosecutor would have to be brought in to deal with the case like what happened to Bill Clinton with Kenneth Starr.

FISMA.

RobertKK wrote: »

There might be nothing

Have a look over Hillary's Non Disclosure Agreement.

Of course, there's plenty.

I think you meant to say, nothing will come of it.

There's several violations that would send anyone other than HRC away.

RobertKK

The FBI need a court order to access emails according to NBC.

There are some claims the emails in question were emails that were forwarded to a Yahoo email account and the emails in question are classified and top secret emails.
If true, was she forwarding stuff for Weiner to see that originated from the Clinton private server?

FISMA.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You know Trump has a court case pending in relation to his rape of a 13 year old right?

"As of now, all of the information about this lawsuit comes solely from the complaint filed by "Katie Johnson," and no one has as yet located, identified, or interviewed her."

:rolleyes:

Source - snopes

Black Swan

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You know Trump has a court case pending in relation to his rape of a 13 year old right?

FISMA. wrote: »

Source - snopes

• The Guardian: "Trump lawyers given court date over lawsuit alleging rape of 13-year-old." US District Court Judge Ronnie Abrams of New York ordered Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein to appear in court 16 December 2016.
• International Business Times: "Donald Trump Sexual Assault Accusations: Timeline And List Of Women With Lawsuits, Including A 13-Year-Old Girl."
• The Washington Times: "Donald Trump rape accuser gets Dec. 16 court date for federal civil suit: Report."
• And many more sources... but why bother? A vote for Trump, is a vote for sexual assault: "Grab them by the p****."

Overheal

Whatever about the new email probe, doesn't have the same pinache that the Hollywood access tape did: Surrogates were pulled from tv spots; campaign personnel jumped ship; political endorsements came undone; and it was the subject of two nationally (internationally) broadcast debates and featured in a third. In contrast I don't know that this has anything going for it that would swing the election. 538 has it at 80/20 right now. The race may feel tighter in a week but I don't think he can flip it. This is another "Hillary emails scandal" thing and decided voters are tuned out. #ShoeShopping

Black Swan

CNN Money: "Donald Trump threatens legal action against NBC over 'Access Hollywood' tape." Methinks that Donald Trump is making obvious false claims from his political pulpit to his uninformed and unwitting faithful followers. The last thing Trump wants is to file a lawsuit against NBC, for the same reasons that he will NOT file a lawsuit against the New York Times (for printing the accusations of women claiming that Trump sexually assaulted them).

The New York Times recently welcomed a lawsuit by Trump against them. Lawsuits against either NBC or New York Times would allow their defense attorneys to pursue a legal discovery, whereupon they will legally demand that 11 seasons of Celebrity Apprentice not-aired live mic tapes be produced as evidence, as well as deposing all the crews and casts, deposing all contestants of Miss Teen USA, Miss USA, Miss Universe, deposing staff working at his hotels and resorts, deposing the dozen women who recently claimed sexual assault by Trump, and deposing his family, including his first wife Ivana Trump, where there had been alleged violent wife rape claims during the divorce proceedings per CNN Politics.

Carcharodon

RobertKK wrote: »

Carcharodon wrote: »

So Hillary Clinton is the main cause of the migrant problem ???
Take a moment with yourself, maybe go to a room where no one can hear you and say that out loud, you may realize how ridiculous it sounds.

Anyone who voted for Iraq war has some responsibility.
Anyone who campaigned for the removal of Gaddafi holds some responsibility.
Anyone who thought it was a good idea to support the removal of a secular dictator in Syria for a bunch of moderate to extremist rebels supported by Saudi Arabia and Qatar who also fund ISIS holds some responsibility for the migrant crisis.
Hillary Clinton has contributed to the migrant crisis and most deaths are from people fleeing the Libyan disaster and then drowning in the Mediterranean sea.
Look at the facts before you tell someone to look at themselves.

So, are you saying now that she is not solely responsible for the migrant problem?
As said already, by your standards, there is a lot of people/countries involved in all these decisions, should everyone be villafied like Hillary is ?
If only we lived in a perfect world where we knew the perfect choices to make each time, very easy to point fingers from your laptop after the fact

Black Swan

Donald Trump says "Torture works" and "much worse." If Trump wins the presidency 8 November 2016, what message does that send to US allies and enemies? Can anyone see the Trump Torture Defense used when international war crimes courts are convened to try war criminals for torturing persons suspected of whatever, including torturing persons that are later proved to be innocent? And what message does this send to over-zealous US domestic law enforcement, where they may start employing enhanced interrogation techniques, and if caught, then use the Trump Torture Defense to get off with a slap on the wrist? A vote for Trump, is a vote for torture.

Hank Scorpio

Torture does work. IMO Trump is much more likely to get along with nations like Russia rather than someone who's clearly pushed buttons in the not so distant past. If you think torture techniques aren't occurring under the Obama administration or wouldn't occur under Hillary then you are naive imo. He shouldn't say things like that in public and he's shot himself in the foot a few times, I would still vote for someone who says what they think over a pathological lier who shows no remorse for the suffering she has caused. I think Trump is going to win the election in a similar vain of what happened with the brexit vote in the UK with the mainstream media trying to cultivate every angle. I'd trust the bookmakers over skewed mainstream polls and Trumps odds have shortened to 3/1 and under in the past day, this was before the latest email investigation was announced. He's probably behind but imo it's gonna go down to the wire ending in a Trump win.

Hank Scorpio

Just to add, I think he'll win in a fair election obviously. Clearly Trump is out of his mind believing such a thing might not happen.

Brian?

FISMA. wrote: »

Witch-hunt?

Today's information was found during an investigation of a middle aged man sexting a 15 year old girl.

That witch-hunt?

Hillary lies about Benghazi and an investigation in to that lie uncovers a personal server.

That witch hunt?

Seems like just rewards for perverts and liars.

Hillary is a pervert now? Do tell.

Black Swan

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Torture does work.

How about the torture of innocent people, who may know something about a terrorist or criminal, but for their own reasons will not share that information? Perhaps they are neighbors or family members who may or may not know something, although they are not terrorists themselves. Trump has said that in addition to taking-out the terrorists, their family members should be taken-out too, which may suggest that torture, which is less than taking-out someone may be considered too: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families."

A vote for Trump, is a vote for killing families of enemies, regardless if they are innocent.

Akrasia

The FBI are acting extremely recklessly right now, by throwing this wildcard into the ring at this point in the election.

The stupidest thing he could have done, is to allude to something potentially explosive (but probably nothing) and just leave it hanging for the republicans basically invent whatever they like and speculate about whatever they like was in those emails.

This far from the election is the absolute worst time for this statement. It gives the Trump campaign enough time to get his spin out, but not enough time for Hillary to clear her name.

Brian?

Akrasia wrote: »

The FBI are acting extremely recklessly right now, by throwing this wildcard into the ring at this point in the election.

The stupidest thing he could have done, is to allude to something potentially explosive (but probably nothing) and just leave it hanging for the republicans basically invent whatever they like and speculate about whatever they like was in those emails.

This far from the election is the absolute worst time for this statement. It gives the Trump campaign enough time to get his spin out, but not enough time for Hillary to clear her name.

The FBI aren't to blame here to be honest. they have a duty to answer to congress, which is what they've done. The blame here is with the media sensationalising the meagre information available. It proves what I've always said, the media aren't biased against Trump, they are biased towards sensational headlines.

Hank Scorpio

@Black Swan

He shouldn't have said that and I don't agree with implementing a strategy so crazy and inhumane. He's said some stupid things which were clearly OTT in the heat of the moment which have damaged his credibility and campaign. What I do believe is something drastic needs to be done to stop the inevitable which is already manifesting itself badly throughout Europe and NA. As bad as some of the things he said are, I believe the problem only gets worse and brews hotter if Hillary is appointed especially when you consider her policies on unknown Syrians coming into the US and border control in general. Still have to side with Trump for his policies with ISIS,

Hank Scorpio

Brian? wrote: »

It proves what I've always said, the media aren't biased against Trump, they are biased towards sensational headlines.

C'mon

There's many clips like the one below, Fox seem to the only network coming out of this race with any sense of dignity.

alastair

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Fox seem to the only network coming out of this race with any sense of dignity.

Of course it is. Fair and Balanced.

RobertKK

Carcharodon wrote: »

So, are you saying now that she is not solely responsible for the migrant problem?
As said already, by your standards, there is a lot of people/countries involved in all these decisions, should everyone be villafied like Hillary is ?
If only we lived in a perfect world where we knew the perfect choices to make each time, very easy to point fingers from your laptop after the fact

I never said she was solely responsible.
I said she was one of the main contributors to it. You are the one who read too much into what I posted earlier.
It is fairly bad when most choices a person makes are bad choices.

Akrasia

Brian? wrote: »

The FBI aren't to blame here to be honest. they have a duty to answer to congress, which is what they've done. The blame here is with the media sensationalising the meagre information available. It proves what I've always said, the media aren't biased against Trump, they are biased towards sensational headlines.

He could have waited for a few weeks before releasing this vague and potentially disruptive statement. He could have waited until he actually has something to announce. Trump is going to spin this as though there is evidence that clinton is a criminal, a spy, a traitor, a liar, corrupt etc etc.

Those 3 emails could have something in them that we need to know, but whats the point in referring to them unless he knows that there is something significant in them. Comey has a duty to report to congress, but he didn't report anything, he just thew a grenade into the election a week before the election. Everyones gonna presume that there is something big in those emails, but without more information, Trump is free to make up anything he likes.

RobertKK

Akrasia wrote: »

The FBI are acting extremely recklessly right now, by throwing this wildcard into the ring at this point in the election.

The stupidest thing he could have done, is to allude to something potentially explosive (but probably nothing) and just leave it hanging for the republicans basically invent whatever they like and speculate about whatever they like was in those emails.

This far from the election is the absolute worst time for this statement. It gives the Trump campaign enough time to get his spin out, but not enough time for Hillary to clear her name.

On CNN last night they were saying the FBI had no choice. They had said if anything knew happened with the case they would be dealing with it.
They found the new information in the past few days. If they did nothing they would have been seen as going back on their word and would be seen as trying to influence the election by withholding information to favour Hillary.
At the end of the day, Hillary Clinton created this mess with her private email server, and again is not accepting responsibility for another mess she directly contributed to.
CNN also said we were given a glimpse of how a Clinton presidency would be. A soap opera and then she holds a press conference of three questions which is insufficient. That it would be like the first Clinton presidency where scandal and intrigue were abound.

alastair

Akrasia wrote: »

He could have waited for a few weeks before releasing this vague and potentially disruptive statement. He could have waited until he actually has something to announce. Trump is going to spin this as though there is evidence that clinton is a criminal, a spy, a traitor, a liar, corrupt etc etc.

Those 3 emails could have something in them that we need to know, but whats the point in referring to them unless he knows that there is something significant in them. Comey has a duty to report to congress, but he didn't report anything, he just thew a grenade into the election a week before the election. Everyones gonna presume that there is something big in those emails, but without more information, Trump is free to make up anything he likes.

It's not really a grenade though. Regardless of what Trump might spin, Comey is clear that the significance of the discovery is to be established. He's flagging it could be something or nothing. Not really what you'd do if you want to cause damage. As I said previously, this smells much more of arse-covering in the context of wingnut conspiracy theories, than strategic campaign tinkering.

gosplan

Akrasia wrote: »

He could have waited for a few weeks before releasing this vague and potentially disruptive statement. He could have waited until he actually has something to announce. Trump is going to spin this as though there is evidence that clinton is a criminal, a spy, a traitor, a liar, corrupt etc etc.

Those 3 emails could have something in them that we need to know, but whats the point in referring to them unless he knows that there is something significant in them. Comey has a duty to report to congress, but he didn't report anything, he just thew a grenade into the election a week before the election. Everyones gonna presume that there is something big in those emails, but without more information, Trump is free to make up anything he likes.

Hah, information or not, I think Trump still has no issues making stuff up.

I think Hillary has already won so it won't make a difference.

Can see the FBI's point in a way though. Releasing this after the election would drive the conspiracy lot round the bend.

Hopefully the negative impact of it will be offset by it shaking some HRC supporters out of complacency.

I still think it's done and dusted though.

Akrasia

gosplan wrote: »

Hah, information or not, I think Trump still has no issues making stuff up.

I think Hillary has already won so it won't make a difference.

Can see the FBI's point in a way though. Releasing this after the election would drive the conspiracy lot round the bend.

Hopefully the negative impact of it will be offset by it shaking some HRC supporters out of complacency.

I still think it's done and dusted though.

Making stuff up is a lot more powerful when there is a credible basis underlying it that the other side cannot easily disprove.

Trump has been handed a gift, what he does with it remains to be seen.

Regarding the FBIs obligation to report to congress, I find it hard to believe that the obligation was so set in stone that he had to announce that he's looking at new evidence without even knowing if it's significant evidence.

If so, how come they haven't made any announcement regarding the thousands of emails from wikileaks?

RobertKK

Black Swan wrote: »

How about the torture of innocent people, who may know something about a terrorist or criminal, but for their own reasons will not share that information? Perhaps they are neighbors or family members who may or may not know something, although they are not terrorists themselves. Trump has said that in addition to taking-out the terrorists, their family members should be taken-out too, which may suggest that torture, which is less than taking-out someone may be considered too: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families."

A vote for Trump, is a vote for killing families of enemies, regardless if they are innocent.

As for your last line. Why have you not been vocal on the Obama administration doing this with double tap drone strikes?
Obama was only two to three days into his presidency when 4 children were killed as part of a family that were targeted in a drone strike.

gosplan

RobertKK wrote: »

I never said she was solely responsible.
I said she was one of the main contributors to it. You are the one who read too much into what I posted earlier.
It is fairly bad when most choices a person makes are bad choices.

Unfortunately that applies equally if not more so to another candidate.

What a sh1t choice for America.

The angry vote combined with far right groups or the cosy political elite.

Akrasia

RobertKK wrote: »

As for your last line. Why have you not been vocal on the Obama administration doing this with double tap drone strikes?
Obama was only two to three days into his presidency when 4 children were killed as part of a family that were targeted in a drone strike.

A lot of the drone strikes are appalling and criminal, but you have to recognise the qualitative difference between someone who comes out and says he wants to target innocent people, and someone who says unfortunately innocent people were killed while trying to kill terrorists.

The person who doesn't even pretend to care about innocent life is on another level of dangerous and depraved compared to the person who at least wants to be perceived as caring.

httpete

alastair wrote: »

It's not really a grenade though. Regardless of what Trump might spin, Comey is clear that the significance of the discovery is to be established. He's flagging it could be something or nothing. Not really what you'd do if you want to cause damage. As I said previously, this smells much more of arse-covering in the context of wingnut conspiracy theories, than strategic campaign tinkering.

The Director of the FBI does not make a statement about an investigation that will be talked about in every newspaper and on every TV station and may have a very strong impact on an election less than 10 days away if the discovery is insignificant. He knows they are of significance because he has obviously looked at some of them considering he is the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and this is the most significant investigation of his lifetime as it has the potential to alter the results of the election.

RobertKK

Akrasia wrote: »

A lot of the drone strikes are appalling and criminal, but you have to recognise the qualitative difference between someone who comes out and says he wants to target innocent people, and someone who says unfortunately innocent people were killed while trying to kill terrorists.

The person who doesn't even pretend to care about innocent life is on another level of dangerous and depraved compared to the person who at least wants to be perceived as caring.

There are reports that hundreds of children have been killed by Obama's much increased use of drones in comparison to GWB.
They will all say whoever they are that it is unfortunate that innocent people got killed, so unfortunate that it always keeps happening.

B0jangles

httpete wrote: »

The Director of the FBI does not make a statement about an investigation that will be talked about in every newspaper and on every TV station and may have a very strong impact on an election less than 10 days away if the discovery is insignificant. He knows they are of significance because he has obviously looked at some of them considering he is the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and this is the most significant investigation of his lifetime as it has the potential to alter the results of the election.

Prepare to be surprised.

Sofa Spud

I guess it's gonna take a few days at least to see how this latest episode in the never ending email saga will impact the polls. It looks like the letter from the FBI is part procedural obligation and part, potentially, partisan ill-timing.

The reality is that regardless of the substantive reasons for it, Trump will make hay of it, and barring a brain-fart from him or another grope-gate story taking over the headlines, it will drag on until election day. The more long term impact is that we can be guaranteed that the GOP will use this as ammunition to hamstring Clinton from day one if she wins. They will be able to use it a justification for blocking anything she tries to do and no doubt will do everything possible to drag her in front of congressional hearings. The divisive partisanship quagmire that will ensue will stink to the high heavens.

That would still be preferable, no matter how odious that Hillary can come across as, than if Hair Furor comes to power....

Iceboy

gosplan wrote: »

Hah, information or not, I think Trump still has no issues making stuff up.

I think Hillary has already won so it won't make a difference.

Can see the FBI's point in a way though. Releasing this after the election would drive the conspiracy lot round the bend.

Hopefully the negative impact of it will be offset by it shaking some HRC supporters out of complacency.

I still think it's done and dusted though.

Hilary is going to lose badly in this election, don't be fooled by the over sampling polls of democrats in the MSM

And early indicators from exit polls in early voting show that it will be a landslide win for Trump, and this was before the FBI announced the investigation reopening for Clinton! she is toast.

B_Wayne

RobertKK wrote: »

There are reports that hundreds of children have been killed by Obama's much increased use of drones in comparison to GWB.
They will all say whoever they are that it is unfortunate that innocent people got killed, so unfortunate that it always keeps happening.

This has been discussed before. Drones were in their infancy during Bush, this is why the difference is significant. Drone attacks are simply not going away under any future presidents, pretty obvious reasons for why the military won't move away from them.

For the record, I absolutely loath the concept of them. I think they're irresponsibly used but they're here to say. As much about military preference of technologies that require no feet on ground as anything else.

ancapailldorcha

B0jangles wrote: »

Prepare to be surprised.

Try to post more constructively than this please.

alastair

httpete wrote: »

The Director of the FBI does not make a statement about an investigation that will be talked about in every newspaper and on every TV station and may have a very strong impact on an election less than 10 days away if the discovery is insignificant. He knows they are of significance because he has obviously looked at some of them considering he is the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and this is the most significant investigation of his lifetime as it has the potential to alter the results of the election.

That's why he flags that he doesn't know if they have any importance to the investigation or not? They are of significance in that they pertain to the investigation, but he's making clear they may, or may not, be important.

By the latest account on AP, they didn't even come from Hillary's server in any case.

alastair

Iceboy wrote: »

Hilary is going to lose badly in this election, don't be fooled by the over sampling polls of democrats in the MSM

And early indicators from exit polls in early voting show that it will be a landslide win for Trump, and this was before the FBI announced the investigation reopening for Clinton! she is toast.

Not going to happen. That's Comical Ali style rhetoric.

ebbsy

alastair wrote: »

Akrasia wrote: »

He could have waited for a few weeks before releasing this vague and potentially disruptive statement. He could have waited until he actually has something to announce. Trump is going to spin this as though there is evidence that clinton is a criminal, a spy, a traitor, a liar, corrupt etc etc.

Those 3 emails could have something in them that we need to know, but whats the point in referring to them unless he knows that there is something significant in them. Comey has a duty to report to congress, but he didn't report anything, he just thew a grenade into the election a week before the election. Everyones gonna presume that there is something big in those emails, but without more information, Trump is free to make up anything he likes.

It's not really a grenade though. Regardless of what Trump might spin, Comey is clear that the significance of the discovery is to be established. He's flagging it could be something or nothing. Not really what you'd do if you want to cause damage. As I said previously, this smells much more of arse-covering in the context of wingnut conspiracy theories, than strategic campaign tinkering.

Well it could hardly be described as nothing. The Fbi would hardly be doing this 11 days out if it was so.

Bottom line is this will carry on into next year, even if she wins.

I'm a Trump man but at this point both candidates are absolutely done.

alastair

ebbsy wrote: »

Well it could hardly be described as nothing. The Fbi would hardly be doing this 11 days out if it was so.

Bottom line is this will carry on into next year, even if she wins.

I'm a Trump man but at this point both candidates are absolutely done.

The FBI don't care about, or consider, election timescales as part of investigations. They're operating on their own timeline. Just because it's reported back to congress now, doesn't make it any more important than any other time. They clearly won't be revealing anything about the findings on these emails until well past Election Day, but it's highly unlikely that those findings will make a sod of difference to their investigation determination.

B0jangles

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html

Comey wrote in a letter to Congress that the newly discovered messages could be relevant to questions of whether Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information while she was secretary of State.

The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.

Because Comey had told Congress that the FBI had finished investigating Clinton’s server, he felt he needed to let lawmakers know that agents were looking into the case again in light of the recent discovery, the official said.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, excoriated Comey’s timing.

“The FBI has a history of extreme caution near election day so as not to influence the results,” she said in a statement. “Today’s break from that tradition is appalling.”

Democrats were not alone in demanding Comey disclose more information or questioning such a disclosure so close to the presidential election.

"The letter from Director Comey was unsolicited and, quite honestly, surprising,” said a statement from Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa, a Republican. “But it's left a lot more questions than answers for both the FBI and Secretary Clinton. Congress and the public deserve more context to properly assess what evidence the FBI has discovered and what it plans to do with it.”

Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas asked in a tweet: “Why is FBI doing this just 11 days before the election?”

So politicians from both major parties are openly questioning the FBI 's reasoning behind its actions given the apparent unimportance of the 'new' evidence and the nearness of the election date.

K-9

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

@Black Swan

He shouldn't have said that and I don't agree with implementing a strategy so crazy and inhumane. He's said some stupid things which were clearly OTT in the heat of the moment which have damaged his credibility and campaign. What I do believe is something drastic needs to be done to stop the inevitable which is already manifesting itself badly throughout Europe and NA. As bad as some of the things he said are, I believe the problem only gets worse and brews hotter if Hillary is appointed especially when you consider her policies on unknown Syrians coming into the US and border control in general. Still have to side with Trump for his policies with ISIS,

You think he'll stop saying stupid things once he becomes President? We aren't talking dumb quotes like George W. here.

Torture works, as the best recruiting tool for terrorists ever.

K-9

Iceboy wrote: »

Hilary is going to lose badly in this election, don't be fooled by the over sampling polls of democrats in the MSM

And early indicators from exit polls in early voting show that it will be a landslide win for Trump, and this was before the FBI announced the investigation reopening for Clinton! she is toast.

What exit polls are these? Hillary is doing well in the ones I read about.

ebbsy

Wonder who actually pushed the button on this latest scandal.

Problem Hillary has now she will have to concentrate on this for the next week or so.

And not a policy in sight from either candidate !!!!!

Itssoeasy

This would seem to be an unprecedented move by the FBI this close to an election. I mean let's say there is nothing in the the emails outside of showing Anthony Weiner is a weirdo.

I'd expect the polls to tighten after this but with ten days to go will it be enough ? I don't think it will.

Itssoeasy

ebbsy wrote: »

Wonder who actually pushed the button on this latest scandal.

Whoever in the FBI found there was emails that they hadn't seen before.

ebbsy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

ebbsy wrote: »

Wonder who actually pushed the button on this latest scandal.

Whoever in the FBI found there was emails that they hadn't seen before.

Problem is for Hillary what else is being held in reserve.