2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

RobertKK

NBC project Ohio for Trump.

Jayop

Oh God this is happening isn't it. I'm barely able to understand what's happening here.

The Talking Bread

As much as I detest Trump, at least we get to see Hillary's response. She thought she had it wrapped up and now her only legacy is her crookedness, standing by a serial adulter, failing in elections and losing to the most detestable candidate arguably in Presidential Campaign latter stage history.

Queen Hillary!

martyos121

Don't really post in here ever but I'm glued to this election, it's gripping stuff. Not sure what the policy on betting talk is but Trump to win Pennsylvania at 11/4 was the value bet of the night for me. The forecasts are all 50/50 which should have it around 5/6 for each candidate so I couldn't resist a small go at that one.

Lord TSC

Amazingfun wrote: »

No she is not safer for anyone.
He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

Because I haven't engaged in this topic on here before tonight, I genuinely can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic. Genuinely.

But if your not....I don't know....I really don't. I evidently don't live in the world I thought I did....

Sierra Oscar

I bet whoever on Hillary's campaign organised all those high profile millionaire celebrity endorsements in the last 48 hours is kicking themselves now. A really, really stupid move. Trump got serious momentum in the closing 48 hours of the campaign. Those endorsements just played right into Trump's hands - enforced the idea that Hillary is just a shill for the wealthy establishment.

RobertKK

vetinari wrote: »

What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

It would have been a bigger disaster with Hillary and her blood thirst for war.

oscarBravo

Amazingfun wrote: »

...he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media...

Yeah, those evil bastards keep reporting the actual words he says. Despicable.

Nabber

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Trump is only in this for his ego. If he wins it will be his running mate Pence in control of everything imo: a guy who is sceptical about evolution, and thinks climate change is a hoax, and who knows what else.

Rep have the House, they will probably keep the Senate, if Trump wins, it makes his 4 years easier than if Clinton was there. And the big divide that Obama has built between DEMs and REP, It think trump will find the support he needs in Washington.

I'm not sure Trump will take a back seat on this. He has always be politically vocal.

The concern for the world is International relations. Obama was terrible, like really terrible. USA has weakened significantly. Europe needs a Strong USA. Leaders of the free world without a military are not leaders, but just by standers.

No global policy works without USA.
UN, G7, G20, NATO, NAFTA, WTO all dependent on USA.

My opinion is that Clinton will continue where Obama left off. Not engaging with Russia. No influence on Russia.

People fear WW3, but wars are more likely when there is no dominate player to dissuade smaller states from pursuing aggression.


Climate change is a HOAX You mean anthropological climate change? Still unproven But lets pay green tax till they figure it out. Cancer, aids ect.. can wait in line.

munsterlegend

Trump in the debates was a joke. Just shows how much people hate Clinton.

Itssoeasy

Amazingfun wrote: »

No she is not safer for anyone.
He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

Ah you are having a laugh surely ? he's a horrible person regardless of whether he was running for president or not. He's a narcissistic asshole.

Christy42

vetinari wrote: »

What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

With a homophobic vice to boot.

And the anti science anti any sort of social progress party will end up with the Senate, house and presidency the way things are going.

RobertKK

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I bet whoever on Hillary's campaign organised all those high profile millionaire celebrity endorsements in the last 48 hours is kicking themselves now. A really, really stupid move. Trump got serious momentum in the closing 48 hours of the campaign. Those endorsements just played right into Trump's hands - enforced the idea that Hillary is just a shill for the wealthy establishment.

I agree and I said that too the other night and some here thought I was wrong.

It just said 'out of touch'.

The Talking Bread

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah you are having a laugh surely ? he's a horrible person regardless of whether he was running for president or not. He's a narcissistic asshole.

He is a troll. Don't entertain.

Harry Angstrom

vetinari wrote: »

What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

Apart from the racist part, you could have been talking about Bill Clinton there....

Amazingfun

Lord TSC wrote: »

Because I haven't engaged in this topic on here before tonight, I genuinely can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic. Genuinely.

But if your not....I don't know....I really don't. I evidently don't live in the world I thought I did....

It's ok, I know it's a difficult thing to come to grips with the fact that others think differently than you. Outside the Hillary echo chamber, things are very different. Much better in fact! Should he win tonight, Trump is going to win you over in time , I promise.

Jayop

The Talking Bread wrote: »

As much as I detest Trump, at least we get to see Hillary's response. She thought she had it wrapped up and now her only legacy is her crookedness, standing by a serial adulter, failing in elections and losing to the most detestable candidate arguably in Presidential Campaign latter stage history.

Queen Hillary!

One of the most disgusting things about this is the horrible way people think her staying with him was a huge negative. That you list that says a heap about you.

Do you think everyone that was cheated on deserves that to be labeled as a negative?

RobertKK

103 electoral votes away from president for Trump.

Lord TSC

Christy42 wrote: »

With a homophobic vice to boot.

And the anti science anti any sort of social progress party will end up with the Senate, house and presidency the way things are going.

This is it. Not just Trump but full power Trump. Say goodbye to pro-choice clinics, goodbye to not judging people by their race, goodbye to science and hello to religious beliefs over actual scientific facts.

And they will do so knowing they have the backing of the majority of people.

WinnyThePoo

Amazingfun wrote: »

No she is not safer for anyone.
He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

Trump a beautiful person? Lolz
Vicious media- the same media trump used to his benefit?. The same media that report exactly what trump says.


I believe you believe trump. Though it's quite sad. He isn't a very good liar at all.

Jayop

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Apart from the racist part, you could have been talking about Bill Clinton there....

Is bill on the ballot?

RobertKK

Christy42 wrote: »

With a homophobic vice to boot.

And the anti science anti any sort of social progress party will end up with the Senate, house and presidency the way things are going.

I saw 'I voted' for Trump by gay voters on twitter.

RobertKK

Jayop wrote: »

Is bill on the ballot?

A lot wouldn't want the White House being used as a brothel, which it seemed to be when he was president.

mrkiscool2

Trump is going to be the next President, he is breaking the firewall in Michigan leaving Clinton with only two paths to victory, neither look likely.

Christy42

RobertKK wrote: »

I saw 'I voted' for Trump by gay voters on twitter.

I would presume some Latinos did as well. I don't get it but many people will shoot themselves in the foot.

Jayop

RobertKK wrote: »

A lot wouldn't want the White House being used as a brothel, which it seemed to be when he was president.

Is he on the ballot?

Harry Angstrom

Lord TSC wrote: »

This is it. Not just Trump but full power Trump. Say goodbye to pro-choice clinics, goodbye to not judging people by their race, goodbye to science and hello to religious beliefs over actual scientific facts.

And they will do so knowing they have the backing of the majority of people.

What's a "pro-choice" clinic? Call it what it is - an abortion clinic.

Amazingfun

The Talking Bread wrote: »

He is a troll. Don't entertain.

I am not a he, and I am not a troll. Just because you aren't enjoying your expected "one hand clapping" experience does not make me a "troll".

I have been a Trump supporter on here from the go

K-9

Ah well, goodbye to a 3 am early night!

The Talking Bread

Jayop wrote: »

One of the most disgusting things about this is the horrible way people think her staying with him was a huge negative. That you list that says a heap about you.

Do you think everyone that was cheated on deserves that to be labeled as a negative?

Oh, get off your high horse. You COMPLETELY misinterpreted what I said.

I merely said it will be part of her legacy. Not my opinion of her. The campaign has focused a lot on her relationship with Bill. I can't control what people will think.

These are such things people, her American people, associate with her and will forever more. Its the nature of the beast that is American politics. If you can't see that you are blinded.

Mr.Nice Guy

The FBI and James Comey will be slated.

Brian?

I'm starting to think it's done. Trump is going to be POTUS.

dark crystal

Why are people predicting such a huge tip in Trump's favour now? Is Hillary that far off winning the 270 votes and is Trump that close to reaching the magic number?

schizo1014

Is anyone else on here constantly refreshing this and the other thread on after hours or is it just me?

Brian?

dark crystal wrote: »

Why are people predicting such a huge tip in Trump's favour now? Is Hillary that far off winning the 270 votes and is Trump that close to reaching the magic number?

There won't be a huge tip. It will be 270 something to 260 something.

RobbingBandit

Since WWII only once has Ohio's choice not won the election. All hail President Donald. Long may he reign in infamy.

oscarBravo

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What's a "pro-choice" clinic? Call it what it is - an abortion clinic.

Yes, an abortion clinic. A place where women get to exercise autonomy over their reproductive health, unless a religiously-motivated nineteenth-century-fixated regressive political party dominated by old men decides that they can't be allowed to do so.

Lord TSC

dark crystal wrote: »

Why are people predicting such a huge tip in Trump's favour now? Is Hillary that far off winning the 270 votes and is Trump that close to reaching the magic number?

It's 167 to 109 in favour of Trump right now.

Nabber

Media is so subdued

A lot of people feeling the squeeze now.

TheOven

RobertKK wrote: »

I saw 'I voted' for Trump by gay voters on twitter.

Was it Milo?

Harry Angstrom

Jayop wrote: »

Is bill on the ballot?

What's that got to do with anything? I was referring to the "sexual predator" post.

oscarBravo

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The FBI and James Comey will be slated.

James Comey deserves to be excoriated, if not prosecuted for Hatch Act violations.

munsterlegend

Nabber wrote: »

Media is so subdued

A lot of people feeling the squeeze now.

Fox will be insufferable for the next 4 years.

RobertKK

I am not fans of either, but if I was American I would have voted for Trump because Hillary Clinton is a neocon and a proven warmonger. Putting her in power was far more dangerous for the world,she even talked of going into conflict with Russia in Syria with her no fly zone.
Imagine...Assad has given Russia permission to help him out, and Hillary has basically said she would have Russian planes blown out of the sky over her no fly zone.
It was a disaster, and maybe like the Cuban missile crisis, a major disaster has been averted.

No one elected yet though

K-9

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The FBI and James Comey will be slated.

It's the game changer all right.

Nabber

dark crystal wrote: »

Why are people predicting such a huge tip in Trump's favour now? Is Hillary that far off winning the 270 votes and is Trump that close to reaching the magic number?

Pre Election based on Polls, Clinton had the most paths to Victory.

But If votes stay as they are now, Trump has the most paths.

Clinton is losing some big swing states, and Virginia where she was expecting a 4% win, it was neck and neck.

it's not over, but based on Polls it is not going according to plan.

There is also more that just the President up for grabs. REP have the house and are on course for the Senate.

dark crystal

Lord TSC wrote: »

It's 167 to 109 in favour of Trump right now.

She's won Virginia and Colorado and will win Iowa and Pennsylvania (by the votes counted so far). Nevada still hasn't declared, either.

There's still a way to go yet.

Sparks43

Brian? wrote: »

I'm starting to think it's done. Trump is going to be POTUS.

Options for Trump open up massively.

But its not over just yet She still has more paths open.

Deadlock not as much now unless Utah goes 3rd party

derm0j073

munsterlegend wrote: »

Fox will be insufferable for the next 4 years.

Yeah such a shame , it's been great up till this election.

Suryavarman

NYT giving Trump an 87% chance of winning with ~290 electoral votes but Clinton winning popular vote by 1.5%.

If he wins either Michigan or Wisconsin he wins.

It's safe to say the big winner of this election is Nate Silver.