2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

RobertKK

oscarBravo wrote: »

Yes, an abortion clinic. A place where women get to exercise autonomy over their reproductive health, unless a religiously-motivated nineteenth-century-fixated regressive political party dominated by old men decides that they can't be allowed to do so.

A lot of people find partial birth abortion absolutely horrific and something Hillary supports.
I won't describe it as I don't know how anyone supports it, and it would make one sick.

Harry Angstrom

oscarBravo wrote: »

Yes, an abortion clinic. A place where women get to exercise autonomy over their reproductive health, unless a religiously-motivated nineteenth-century-fixated regressive political party dominated by old men decides that they can't be allowed to do so.

I was referring to the absurdity of somebody calling it a "pro-choice" clinic. I have no interest in debating the rights or wrongs of abortion here, I just wish people would call a spade a spade, instead of using ridiculous euphemisms.

RobertKK

Hillary wins Virginia.

eagle eye

A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

RobertKK

Suryavarman wrote: »

NYT giving Trump an 87% chance of winning with ~290 electoral votes but Clinton winning popular vote by 1.5%.

If he wins either Michigan or Wisconsin he wins.

It's safe to say the big winner of this election is Nate Silver.

Is the champagne warm or cold

Liamalone

Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump

Trump, Trump , Trump

Lord TSC

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

I was referring to the absurdity of somebody calling it a "pro-choice" clinic. I have no interest in debating the rights or wrongs of abortion here, I just wish people would call a spade a spade, instead of using ridiculous euphemisms.

Well, I guess if we are arguing semantics and what to call it, we aren't discussing the hypocrisy of having a country so defined by "freedom" not allowing women to have a free choice with regards their own bodies :rolleyes:

TheOven

eagle eye wrote: »

A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

It depends, the globalist elites will be fine. The people who hate them have the most to lose.

mrkiscool2

dark crystal wrote: »

She's won Virginia and Colorado and will win Iowa and Pennsylvania (by the votes counted so far). Nevada still hasn't declared, either.

There's still a way to go yet.

There is but he is looking more likely to break the firewall by winning Michigan which leaves her with very few paths to victory. It gives Trump multiple paths. It's not over, but it is more and more looking like Trump will be President.

Suryavarman

RobertKK wrote: »

Is the champagne warm or cold

Neither. The tea is warm though and the fry I'm about to start cooking will be nice and hot :P

RobertKK

eagle eye wrote: »

A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

I think a lot felt Clinton, more of the same, a neocon war hawk, and 8 years of the controversy ridden Clintons was enough.
People wanted change.

Sierra Oscar

New York Times now predicting a 91% chance of a Trump victory.

Harry Angstrom

Lord TSC wrote: »

Well, I guess if we are arguing semantics and what to call it, we aren't discussing the hypocrisy of having a country so defined by "freedom" not allowing women to have a free choice with regards their own bodies :rolleyes:

Yes, and exercising that freedom by visiting an abortion clinic, not a "pro-choice" clinic :rolleyes:

briany

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

New York Times now predicting a 91% chance of a Trump victory.

How do they figure that?

RobertKK

Love Trumps hate becomes Donald trumps Hillary.

Sierra Oscar

briany wrote: »

How do they figure that?

Path to victory in the electoral college. Hillary's options are closing. Trump's opening up big time. His strategy of focusing on the rust belt is paying off big time.

RobbingBandit

He needs Florida North Carolina and Nevada to give him breathing room.

mrkiscool2

briany wrote: »

How do they figure that?

He breaks the firewall in Michigan and holds onto Arizona, that is enough to win the election for him based on the map!

flazio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qCGJFMa9E

The Talking Bread

swinging again a bit in Clinton's favour. Trump probably wins but will be very tight.

oscarBravo

RobertKK wrote: »

A lot of people find partial birth abortion absolutely horrific and something...

...that doesn't exist. Don't mindlessly parrot conservative talking points; they just make you look silly.

RobertKK wrote: »

People wanted change.

Well, it looks like they're going to get it. I wonder who they'll be blaming their woes on in four years' time?

briany

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

There is but he is looking more likely to break the firewall by winning Michigan which leaves her with very few paths to victory. It gives Trump multiple paths. It's not over, but it is more and more looking like Trump will be President.

Didn't some Detroit paper call Michigan for Hillary?

Mr.Nice Guy

eagle eye wrote: »

A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

This is if we believe he is going to be a hands-on President. I think this is primarily about his narcissism and feeding his ego. I believe he will be a figurehead. They will hand him his speeches and he'll say what they want and he'll not give a damn as he is in this for the photo ops, and the adoring crowds. He's going to be a puppet imo.

Pence is the guy we're going to have to get to know, just like with Cheney. He will be the one doing the bulk of the policy as he is the career politician of the two.

Mr.Micro

oscarBravo wrote: »

...that doesn't exist. Don't mindlessly parrot conservative talking points; they just make you look silly.

Well, it looks like they're going to get it. I wonder who they'll be blaming their woes on in four years' time?

They will find someone or some country, rather than look at themselves.

Liamalone

Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump

Trump, Trump , Trump

Harry Angstrom

Slight disparity with bookmakers at the moment - Trump 1/6 with Ladbrokes but 3/10 with Paddy Power.

Sparks43

Liamalone wrote: »

Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump

Trump, Trump , Trump

Once is funny

Twice is annoying

mrkiscool2

briany wrote: »

Didn't some Detroit paper call Michigan for Hillary?

It did, but that was on a very early call. It wasn't supposed to be close but once it became close it shouldn't have been called. The way the votes are going in districts are showing huge wins for Trumps where he was expected to win and small (and, in some parts of Detroit, loses) wins for Clinton. That gives Trump the win there.

Amazingfun

RobertKK wrote: »

Love Trumps hate becomes Donald trumps Hillary.

Same thing

oscarBravo

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

This is if we believe he is going to be a hands-on President. I think this is primarily about his narcissism and feeding his ego. I believe he will be a figurehead. They will hand him his speeches and he'll say what they want and he'll not give a damn as he is in this for the photo ops, and the adoring crowds. He's going to be a puppet imo.

Pence is the guy we're going to have to get to know, just like with Cheney. He will be the one doing the bulk of the policy as he is the career politician of the two.

I think you're partly wrong about the first part, and probably right about the second. Pence will likely dictate much policy, which is a terrifying prospect for anyone with any respect for science or, well, people.

The problem with the first part is that Trump's ego won't allow him to settle for being a figurehead. He's emotionally incapable of ignoring a slight, and is entirely capable of starting an actual shooting war over a Twitter insult.

Liamalone

Sparks43 wrote: »

Once is funny

Twice is annoying

Donald the Elephant packed his trunk
And said hello to the circus
Off he went with a trumpety-trump

Trump, Trump , Trump

Mr.Micro

oscarBravo wrote: »

I think you're partly wrong about the first part, and probably right about the second. Pence will likely dictate much policy, which is a terrifying prospect for anyone with any respect for science or, well, people.

The problem with the first part is that Trump's ego won't allow him to settle for being a figurehead. He's emotionally incapable of ignoring a slight, and is entirely capable of starting an actual shooting war over a Twitter insult.

In a word, unstable.

Billy86

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The FBI and James Comey will be slated.

Well given the tight margins in the key states, it's beyond doubt if Trump wins, that Comey was the deciding factor in the election.

Dow Jones has already come down considerably more than on 9/11, per Tom Brokaw.

RobertKK

I guess those large crowds for Trump were reflective, while Hillary got concert goers for her large rallies.

Also the lies of the Democrats with their negative ads while saying 'when they go low, we go high', made some think 'do they think we are stupid, they are going low'.

RobertKK

Billy86 wrote: »

Well given the tight margins in the key states, it's beyond doubt if Trump wins, that Comey was the deciding factor in the election.

Dow Jones has already come down considerably more than on 9/11, per Tom Brokaw.

The dow has run a long way up since 9/11. percentage wise it is nowhere close.

Amazingfun

Whoa, the liberal devastation on Twitter is very sad.......not sure why they have given up already......?

Amazingfun

Trump wins Florida

A Primal Nut

Suryavarman wrote: »

NYT giving Trump an 87% chance of winning with ~290 electoral votes but Clinton winning popular vote by 1.5%.

If he wins either Michigan or Wisconsin he wins.

It's safe to say the big winner of this election is Nate Silver.

Why? He gave Hilary a 71% chance of winning. He gave Trump a better chance than most but certainly didn't predict the result.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

FISMA.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Hillary wins Florida .
I'd call it now /.

Ha ha!!! Nice try! It' trumps'

ECO_Mental

Fox calling Florida for Trump.....sqeeky bum time

dark crystal

If Trump wins this, it's such a sad indictment of the way America is going.

Less gun control, less women's autonomy over their own bodies, more racial tension, climate change becomes a non issue.

Ireland should be worried about US companies here - The Donald doesn't agree with our corporation tax laws.

The next four years will be fun....

Billy86

At this point, I think Trump is a good deal more likely to win - on top of Comey being the difference maker, you have to give credit to the job he did galvanizing the rural vote, which didn't even show in the primaries for him. In the more likely event that he does win... it's going to be a very interesting few years to put it mildly.

Hank Scorpio

god this is beautiful

K-9

Astonishing as that was, we'd a choice between the first dude, with all his sexual predilections, and a President with a third marriage for a first lady, who some members (ahem!) of the White House are perving over nude photo shoots of her in lads mags.

Anerica, you've a bright future.

dark crystal

At least Alec Baldwin will have plenty of work over the next four years

Harry Angstrom

dark crystal wrote: »

At least Alec Baldwin will have plenty of work over the next four years

Bigly.

Suryavarman

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Why? He gave Hilary a 71% chance of winning. He gave Trump a better chance than most but certainly didn't predict the result.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

He predicted the race to be far tighter than any other pollster. Admittedly he got it wrong but he definitely got it more right than any other outfit.

Mr.Nice Guy

I worry about what this is going to do the racial tensions in America. Troubling signs already...

https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840

Amazingfun

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

god this is beautiful

And Clint Eastwood just tweeted a Pepe ***beauty intensifies***


https://twitter.com/EastwoodUSA/status/796151374312599552

RobertKK

dark crystal wrote: »

If Trump wins this, it's such a sad indictment of the way America is going.

Less gun control, less women's autonomy over their own bodies, more racial tension, climate change becomes a non issue.

Ireland should be worried about US companies here - The Donald doesn't agree with our corporation tax laws.

The next four years will be fun....

Trump does not agree with US corporation tax and wants to reduce it from 35% to 15%.
Makes perfect sense, and will allow US companies to bring the $2 trillion they keep offshore back home to the US.