2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Hank Scorpio

I'd take all of Trumps flaws over lying to the victims families of Benghazi then going on TV and calling them liars. She's on another level entirely. She's gotten away with murder and I hope justice will be served.

RobertKK

Trump wins Wisconsin, 13 electoral votes away.

Jawgap

RobertKK wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger.

Just reporting what Dana Bash on CNN reported.

Sorry, wasn't having a go at you, just raising the point that he has his 'winning formula' so why change it now?

Everyone expected a more conciliatory attitude when he won the primary and it never materialised, so I wouldn't be too surprised if he doesn't continue with the small minded, paranoia fueled, hate encouraging tone that got him this far.

DrumSteve

Now watch Russia in the next few weeks start expanding into Eastern Europe...

listermint

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I'd take all of Trumps flaws over lying to the victims families of Benghazi then going on TV and calling them liars. She's on another level entirely. She's gotten away with murder and I hope justice will be served.

You care as much about families of a few soldiers in benghazi as much as trump does.

Which is not at all.

vetinari

Where do people get the idea that Trump will be gracious? He hasn't been so far.

Jawgap

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I'd take all of Trumps flaws over lying to the victims families of Benghazi then going on TV and calling them liars. She's on another level entirely. She's gotten away with murder and I hope justice will be served.

....as opposed to Trump's repeated and very public attacks on the Khans, including responding to Mr Khan's statement that he (Trump) had “sacrificed nothing,” and had lost no one.......with this gem.....

“I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices,” Mr. Trump replied. “I’ve worked very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs.”

Hank Scorpio

Most of the betting sites have shut up shop. I think I got 10/1 on Trump earlier on pokerstars, wish I threw more than 15 quid on it. Had a gut feeling for months he'd win.

Nabber

listermint wrote: »

You care as much about families of a few soldiers in benghazi as much as trump does.

Which is not at all.

That's speculation

Where as Hillary lack of respect is fact to quote her "What does it matter anymore"

Also like how you put emphasis on 'a few soldiers' like the quantity matters.

Hank Scorpio

Jawgap wrote: »

....as opposed to Trump's repeated and very public attacks on the Khans, including responding to Mr Khan's statement that he (Trump) had “sacrificed nothing,” and had lost no one.......with this gem.....

No blood on his hands.

learn_more

Today, is one of the most depressing days of my life. I'm totally shocked. Not surprised, but shocked all the same.

Polo_Mint

So the US has a Rep President, Rep Senate, Rep House?

Nabber

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

Delcaring him the winner

listermint

Nabber wrote: »

That's speculation

Where as Hillary lack of respect is fact to quote her "What does it matter anymore"

Does it?

Political football nonsense no one really cares.

More bodies from American foreign policy with the republicans in charge this will continue.

Its weird people think this will change.

They farm young Republican working class for the military.

RobertKK

Hillary has called Trump to concede, only right.

President elect Donald J Trump.

Amerika

PA called for Trump. TRUMP WINS!

K-9

BBC are reporting an NBC journalist has talked to Hillary and she has conceded.

FISMA.

Trump wins pa!!! Trump wins!!!

aloyisious

CNN reported same phonecall from HRC to Don.

RobertKK

CNN say Trump could yet win Minnesota.

FISMA.

Clinton calls trump to concede...

RobertKK

To think Mike Pence as a child would holiday in Ireland and help his Irish relations making hay on their farm.

FISMA.

President Trump!!!!!!'n

Pickpocket

RobertKK wrote: »

To think Mike Pence as a child would holiday in Ireland and help his Irish relations making hay on their farm.

Just like the Moneygall Obamas.

Mike Litoris

Wow! :eek:

Akrasia

Dear God

Weepsie

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Assange hinted the emails closer to the election are far worse than that we've see so far. Joke she's gotten away with everything for so long. There's literally emails of them talking about the foundation of how to hide the corruption. FBI sold their soul.

Trump has gotten away with well documented corruption too though. Perhaps he was just just so brazen about it and that's why people look past it.

He's a conman and neither were/are fit for the role.

Prepare to see 4 years+ of the dismantling of any progressive legislation. The stifling of civil rights of many many people, the lining up pockets of military contractors, same old same old business men and Trump himself.

America needs a long hard look at itself. Overdue a third party that could make in grounds but people voted on the very simple and empty promise of jobs and immigration.

Don't blame people for not wanting Clinton, but seriously Donald fckn Trump. An heir, a failed businessman multiple times over, a conman, a misogynist, a xenophobe. Its just short of having Palin as his secretary of state to bein a fascist led country imo

Hank Scorpio

Donald is very emotional

Jawgap

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

No blood on his hands.

....and there's blood on Clinton's hands - how did you figure that out given as SoS she would have been outside the chain of command?

FISMA.

A European First Lady!!!!!

cantwbr1

Will we now get to see his tax returns?

Jawgap

Quite amazing that Romney got absolutely slammed for using the phrase "binders full of women" (when he meant to say "binders of resumes of women")......and Trump suffers practically zero fallout from being an out and out misogynist......some of the polling data coming in shows that in some states he performed stronger among women than Clinton!!

Akrasia

We have a supervillian In control of the nuclear codes. I am worried, bigly

Nabber

RobertKK wrote: »

To think Mike Pence as a child would holiday in Ireland and help his Irish relations making hay on their farm.

They say the farm was worth a couple of pence

listermint

RobertKK wrote: »

To think Mike Pence as a child would holiday in Ireland and help his Irish relations making hay on their farm.

Yes with the dinosaurs walking alongside.

Good times.

Hank Scorpio

Jawgap wrote: »

....and there's blood on Clinton's hands - how did you figure that out given as SoS she would have been outside the chain of command?

Because the Benghazi guards she hired under her watch were terrorists who turned on the facility.

Gael23

So many former US politicians will turn in their graves today

Fr Tod Umptious

vetinari wrote: »

Where do people get the idea that Trump will be gracious? He hasn't been so far.

Sounded pretty gracious for the few minutes I listen to his acceptance speech

Polo_Mint

Pickpocket

I don't blame Trump and I don't blame the millions of people that voted for him. The same with Brexit. Plenty of angry, racist rhetoric on both sides of the water, but the real story is that the political establishment cannot perpetually ride roughshod over people. It turned out to be Trump and Brexit, but it could have been someone else and some other act of defiance.

2016, when the chickens came home to roost.

listermint

Weepsie wrote: »

Trump has gotten away with well documented corruption too though. Perhaps he was just just so brazen about it and that's why people look past it.

He's a conman and neither were/are fit for the role.

Prepare to see 4 years+ of the dismantling of any progressive legislation. The stifling of civil rights of many many people, the lining up pockets of military contractors, same old same old business men and Trump himself.

America needs a long hard look at itself. Overdue a third party that could make in grounds but people voted on the very simple and empty promise of jobs and immigration.

Don't blame people for not wanting Clinton, but seriously Donald fckn Trump. An heir, a failed businessman multiple times over, a conman, a misogynist, a xenophobe. Its just short of having Palin as his secretary of state to bein a fascist led country imo

Big business are quids in.

And the wealthy.

This gives nothing to working people.

Laugh able really.

RobertKK

Very good speech by Trump.

Quin_Dub

As with Brexit and to a lesser extent the Irish Election , the US people would seem to have allowed their not unreasonable anger and frustration at a broken system over-ride common sense.

Just as Brexit is absolutely not the right thing for the UK , Trump is absolutely not the right thing for the US in terms of fixing the things that are broken.

The Frustrated "Ordinary guy" has just voted for self-immolation to clear up a rash.

As I previously said , I totally understand that people were/are frustrated with the system in the US. Just as I understood peoples frustration in the UK and as I understood people in Ireland feeling that they had missed out on any recovery that was being described by Government.

But the reaction to that shouldn't be a vote for utter chaos , which is what they are now seeing in the UK with Brexit , which awaits the US with Trump and that we are beginning to see here in Ireland with a neutered government having to roll over for every union request that comes their way..

Will people learn the hard way?

Akrasia

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Sounded pretty gracious for the few minutes I listen to his acceptance speech

Hitler waited a few hours before starting to round up the Jews....

FISMA.

Surgeon General Ben Carson on the stage! Where's Attorney General Christie!

whatawaster

This speech is a rambling mess, like the next 4 years will be.

Jawgap

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Because the Benghazi guards she hired under her watch were terrorists who turned on the facility.

So should Trump be held to account for all the hiring decisions in his organisation, or is this just another case of the double standard in operation?

Amerika

Grand victory speech.

Fr Tod Umptious

Akrasia wrote: »

Hitler waited a few hours before starting to round up the Jews....

Goodwinned minutes after his acceptance speech.

Well done.

Fiery mutant

I stayed up until 3am to watch the votes start to come in, and even as his rise continued, I still didn't think he would actually win, you could see the markets **** itself even when he was just leading the voting in certain states like Florida, and still everyone thought no way is h going to win.

Just woke up and it feels an even bigger shock than Brexit, bigger shock than Leicester winning the league, or Ireland beating the All Blacks. Unbelievable.