2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

RobertKK

alastair wrote: »

It's proscribed, and no - very few counties have, and in those cases because they're ideologically opposed - as with Saudi Arabia, or because they're afraid of their own Muslim minorities, like Russia. The Muslim Botherhood is not proscribed as a terrorist group by any western nation, and isn't even designated as a terrorist group by the Israelis.

Well if they had managed to stay in power it would not have been long before they would have been designated a terrorist group by Israel given their support of Hamas.
The IRA were illegal in the UK and Ireland, but not in most other countries. They were illegal where they were a problem.

RobertKK

Overheal wrote: »

I'm engaging what YOU said, when you suggested he is against "stupid wars" "isolationist" and "against regime change [through intervention]"

You weren't speaking in the past tense. Where is your gymnastics certificate from?

edit: furthermore, what he does in the future is paramount to his campaign. So you admit he's going to be a warmonger if elected.

Was Trump speaking about a future Iraqi war with the Americans as invaders?
No.
The only warmonger in the presidential campaign is cold-hearted Hillary Clinton, who has always gone for the extreme option.

Overheal

RobertKK wrote: »

Was Trump speaking about a future Iraqi war with the Americans as invaders?
No.
The only warmonger in the presidential campaign is cold-hearted Hillary Clinton, who has always gone for the extreme option.

Its hard to wrap ones head around your logic here

Because he wasn't talking about Iraq, it's ok for him then to talk about bombing infrastructure and stealing foreign resources. As long as it's not Iraq. And therefore that makes him some kind of anti-war pacifist. As long as Exxon is doing the invading. Even though we will be doing the bombing. And providing the protection. And holding off the ensuing insurgency. As long as we don't call it a war it won't be a war. But it's a war.

It's really hard to tell if you're pulling my leg here or if you really don't see how self conflicting your position is.

And the kicker: Hillary is the cold hearted one. Not Trump, who said we should piss on the Geneva Convention

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/02/trump-on-islamic-state-terrorism-you-have-to-take-out-their-families/

But no remind me again how Clinton is the cold hearted one. Don is the peace loving never hurt a fly Ghandi figure is he?

RobertKK

Overheal wrote: »

Its hard to wrap ones head around your logic here

Because he wasn't talking about Iraq, it's ok for him then to talk about bombing infrastructure and stealing foreign resources. As long as it's not Iraq. And therefore that makes him some kind of anti-war pacifist. As long as Exxon is doing the invading. Even though we will be doing the bombing. And providing the protection. And holding off the ensuing insurgency. As long as we don't call it a war it won't be a war. But it's a war.

It's really hard to tell if you're pulling my leg here or if you really don't see how self conflicting your position is.

I saw him say that but it was in terms of the war costing over $2 trillion and it was in that context he said about the oil.
He also argued why have these wars that cost so much when US infrastructure needs massive investment - roads, rail, bridges, airports.
Why spend money on wars in countries where they are not wanted, when that money could be spent inside the US on it's own people.
He also said these wars have not made things better.
Meanwhile Hillary argues that the US should have launched a war against Syria to remove Assad.
If Trump does as he says, and if Hillary does what she wants, then under Hillary, the world will be in a far greater mess.

RobertKK

Overheal wrote: »

Its hard to wrap ones head around your logic here

Because he wasn't talking about Iraq, it's ok for him then to talk about bombing infrastructure and stealing foreign resources. As long as it's not Iraq. And therefore that makes him some kind of anti-war pacifist. As long as Exxon is doing the invading. Even though we will be doing the bombing. And providing the protection. And holding off the ensuing insurgency. As long as we don't call it a war it won't be a war. But it's a war.

It's really hard to tell if you're pulling my leg here or if you really don't see how self conflicting your position is.

And the kicker: Hillary is the cold hearted one. Not Trump, who said we should piss on the Geneva Convention

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/02/trump-on-islamic-state-terrorism-you-have-to-take-out-their-families/

But no remind me again how Clinton is the cold hearted one. Don is the peace loving never hurt a fly Ghandi figure is he?

Only a cold-hearted killer could laugh at instigating the murder of Gaddafi and how he was killed.

98% of people killed by Obama drone attacks are civilians, hundreds of children killed yet nothing, and this really took off under the Obama/Clinton regime.
You would swear Trump was going to start some new policy.

Overheal

RobertKK wrote: »

Only a cold-hearted killer could laugh at instigating the murder of Gaddafi and how he was killed.

bless your bleeding heart. I guess these memes are atrocious then.




And New York is full of sick twisted bastards

And what's the outrage about? This??

Hardly worthy of her own caricature on Criminal Minds. This is the laugh that has your stomach so upturned? :rolleyes: you make it seem like she went into full Mwahahaaha after describing how his extremities were cut off with pliers before being eaten alive by spiders or that she puts Robot Nixon to shame or something:

RobertKK

Overheal wrote: »

bless your bleeding heart. I guess these memes are atrocious then.




And New York is full of sick twisted bastards

And what's the outrage about? This??

Hardly worthy of her own caricature on Criminal Minds. This is the laugh that has your stomach so upturned? :rolleyes: you make it seem like she went into full Mwahahaaha after describing how his extremities were cut off with pliers before being eaten alive by spiders.

She even claps her hands...
Her policies have been absolute failures, which have brought misery, death and destruction to tens of millions of people, and she wants more of the same.
She has been and is a disgrace, she and the other leaders who destroyed Iraq, Libya and encouraged a rag bag of terrorists in Syria should be in the Hague answering for what they have done to this world.
Plus bring in Clinton's friend Paul Kagame to answer for his regimes crimes too...

Overheal

So she clapped her hand. Whoop? What a contrived controversy. Just to inject you with some perspective:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/trump-repulsively-celebrates-deaths-50-americans-orlando-terror-attack.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/trump-uses-a-chicago-mothers-death-to-celebrate-himself.html

Again I'll ask for any evidence relating ties to Kagame and US Politics because you've mentioned him a lot without backing up any of your claims

InTheTrees

RobertKK wrote: »

Her policies have been absolute failures, which have brought misery, death and destruction to tens of millions of people, and she wants more of the same.

Her "policies"??

I dont think you really understand what the secretary of state does. They dont have "policies".

Overheal

Trump camp really has the pulse of intellect here

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/778016283342307328/photo/1

conditioned games

Overheal wrote: »

Trump camp really has the pulse of intellect here

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/778016283342307328/photo/1

We should start giving those skittles to the Syrians and save us from the baggage they bring with them.

fran17

Overheal wrote: »

So she clapped her hand. Whoop? What a contrived controversy. Just to inject you with some perspective:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/12/trump-repulsively-celebrates-deaths-50-americans-orlando-terror-attack.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/trump-uses-a-chicago-mothers-death-to-celebrate-himself.html

Again I'll ask for any evidence relating ties to Kagame and US Politics because you've mentioned him a lot without backing up any of your claims

Also in the interest of perspective,the video showing the death of the man she laughs so flippantly about involved him being sodomised with a bayonet prior to his murder.

TheDoctor

7 weeks to Armageddon

alastair

RobertKK wrote: »

Well if they had managed to stay in power it would not have been long before they would have been designated a terrorist group by Israel given their support of Hamas.
The IRA were illegal in the UK and Ireland, but not in most other countries. They were illegal where they were a problem.

The Provisional IRA was a designated terrorist group in the USA and the EU. You really should stop digging. There's a reason that the MB are not proscribed in all these countries, and the Israelis are well aware of the MB support for Hamas, which actually was constrained by their going into government, so quite why their staying in power would have prompted any change by the Israelis is something of a mystery.

alastair

conditioned games wrote: »

We should start giving those skittles to the Syrians and save us from the baggage they bring with them.

There's no great mystery about who actually ate all the skittles though, in fairness.

TheDoctor

Overheal wrote: »

Trump camp really has the pulse of intellect here

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/778016283342307328/photo/1

He's appealing to his support base - you're not going to find much intellect there.

hatrickpatrick

So it looks like Clinton's head of IT turned to Reddit for help with deleting, or failing that altering, the emails of a "V VIP" ("very VIP") on the sly, and some sleuths managed to follow the trail and uncover the posts.

What adds some serious credence to the story is that the person involved, extremely foolishly, began deleting their messages from their old Reddit account once the blog started to go viral, which was caught on video. Additionally, other websites which automatically archive large subreddits still have the original posts on record.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-email-it-guy-caught-asked-destroy-evidence/

As word began circulating that Combetta had been caught red-handed asking how to illegally forge Hillary’s e-mails, the man known as ‘stonetear’ began deleting his messages on the forum.

Twitter user Erik Jones took video in which he refreshed his screen to show the messages disappearing.

And here's the original post by "Stonetear":

[July 24, 2014] Hello all- I may be facing a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file. Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out.

I am not sure if something like this is possible with PowerShell, or exporting all of the emails to MSG and doing find/replaces with a batch processing program of some sort.

Does anyone have experience with something like this, and/or suggestions on how this might be accomplished?

And finally,

It’s important to note the date, which was within 24 hours of a recent New York Post report that showed Combetta at that time trying to ship archived data to Clinton Executive Services Corp., or CESC, which handles logistics for Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Was this the same data he was trying to forge or strip of evidence?

Combetta would eventually delete the archive of Clinton emails and scrub them from the server, knowing full-well the House Committee on Benghazi had requested retention of the information.

Predictably but incredibly depressingly,

Combetta has reportedly been given immunity by the Obama Justice Department and was not charged.

Here's one question: Can such immunity be subsequently revoked if new evidence comes to light later on in an investigation?

Black Swan

Seth Meyers in a Closer Look summarizes the recent complete reversal of Donald Trump regarding Obama's birth last Friday, while documenting how Trump was an active birther for the past 5 years, despite Trump claims otherwise. Trump called a press conference to deal with the birther issue. But Donald Trump spends more time announcing his new hotel opening than the few seconds for birther. This raises the question to what extent the Trump presidency will financially profit Donald Trump and the Trump family, just like when Ivanka Trump sold her new pink dress during the RNC. Chuck Todd interviewed live Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway during Meet the Press and questioned how Trump will wall off his business and family profit interests, but mysteriously the news feed was cut before she could answer.

In 2000 Donald Trump told Fortune magazine, “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”

conditioned games

TheDoctor wrote: »

He's appealing to his support base - you're not going to find much intellect there.

His support base don't want these refugees where some grow into terrorists. They have the intelligence to know what's not good for them as opposed to the Clinton camp the brings them in from everywhere. You wont find much intellect in the Clinton camp.

Amerika

Black Swan wrote: »

Seth Meyers in a Closer Look summarizes the recent complete reversal of Donald Trump regarding Obama's birth last Friday, while documenting how Trump was an active birther for the past 5 years, despite Trump claims otherwise. Trump called a press conference to deal with the birther issue. But Donald Trump spends more time announcing his new hotel opening than the few seconds for birther. This raises the question to what extent the Trump presidency will financially profit Donald Trump and the Trump family, just like when Ivanka Trump sold her new pink dress during the RNC. Chuck Todd interviewed live Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway during Meet the Press and questioned how Trump will wall off his business and family profit interests, but mysteriously the news feed was cut before she could answer.

In 2000 Donald Trump told Fortune magazine, “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”

No story here. Trump said he would hand off the job of running the Trump business to his three kids.

But in other events...

If elected president, Hillary Clinton could pull off three historic firsts. First woman elected US president, first spouse of a previous president elected POTUS, and first president to be impeached on day one of their presidency.

Even though Obama’s politically motivated Department Of Justice refused to indict her for her crimes, it doesn’t matter if the majority of House members in the next Congress believe she committed injuries to the society when she was extremely careless in the mishandling of classified information as SOS. Her inauguration would take place within the time-frame of the statute of limitations of the alleged crimes for which she was recently investigated, and could be impeached for ‘High Crimes and Misdemeanors.’

Overheal

conditioned games wrote: »

His support base don't want these refugees where some grow into terrorists. They have the intelligence to know what's not good for them as opposed to the Clinton camp the brings them in from everywhere. You wont find much intellect in the Clinton camp.

What should we do about the home grown terror problem though? A much higher rate of domestic terrorists exists

Pro Hoc Vice

Amerika wrote: »

No story here. Trump said he would hand off the job of running the Trump business to his three kids.

But in other events...

If elected president, Hillary Clinton could pull off three historic firsts. First woman elected US president, first spouse of a previous president elected POTUS, and first president to be impeached on day one of their presidency.

Even though Obama’s politically motivated Department Of Justice refused to indict her for her crimes, it doesn’t matter if the majority of House members in the next Congress believe she committed injuries to the society when she was extremely careless in the mishandling of classified information as SOS. Her inauguration would take place within the time-frame of the statute of limitations of the alleged crimes for which she was recently investigated, and could be impeached for ‘High Crimes and Misdemeanors.’

In relation the the kids running of the business you understand the concept of a blind thrust. If the family continue to run the business a huge issue of conflict of interest. Just one example Trump's latest hotel "the best in the world" in DC guess who the landlord is?

Overheal

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

In relation the the kids running of the business you understand the concept of a blind thrust. If the family continue to run the business a huge issue of conflict of interest. Just one example Trump's latest hotel "the best in the world" in DC guess who the landlord is?

Historically, politicians and hotels do not go well together.

Pro Hoc Vice

Overheal wrote: »

Historically, politicians and hotels do not go well together.

Especially DC hotels!

AbusesToilets

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

In relation the the kids running of the business you understand the concept of a blind thrust. If the family continue to run the business a huge issue of conflict of interest. Just one example Trump's latest hotel "the best in the world" in DC guess who the landlord is?

Are you going to back up your claim of me lying or are you going to retract your comment?

Amerika

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

In relation the the kids running of the business you understand the concept of a blind thrust. If the family continue to run the business a huge issue of conflict of interest. Just one example Trump's latest hotel "the best in the world" in DC guess who the landlord is?

Why would it be a conflict of interest? Our Constitution allows Trump to be president and still run his business, and he is even allowed to promote policies that advance his interests. It's Cabinet members who have to recuse themselves from any decisions that might benefit them financially, including issues that would affect close family members. The President and Vice President are excluded from those restrictions.

Anything Trump does in handing over the control of his businesses goes above what is required of him as president.

And why worry about it? You don’t seem to have any problem about how Hillary’s tenure as Secretary of State boosted her husband’s speaking fees, and benefited well-connected friends via her family’s Clinton Global Initiative, and her potential run for President. Or is it just because it’s Trump?

Pro Hoc Vice

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Are you going to back up your claim of me lying or are you going to retract your comment?

Nope you are a liar.

Mod: Poster banned.

Pro Hoc Vice

Amerika wrote: »

Why would it be a conflict of interest? Our Constitution allows Trump to be president and still run his business, and he is even allowed to promote policies that advance his interests. It's Cabinet members who have to recuse themselves from any decisions that might benefit them financially, including issues that would affect close family members. The President and Vice President are excluded from those restrictions.

Anything Trump does in handing over the control of his businesses goes above what is required of him as president.

And why worry about it? You don’t seem to have any problem about how Hillary’s tenure as Secretary of State boosted her husband’s speaking fees, and benefited well-connected friends via her family’s Clinton Global Initiative, and her potential run for President. Or is it just because it’s Trump?

http://congressionalresearch.com/RS21656/document.php

In relation to Clinton no matter how she might want to she can't put her husband in a blind trust.

Overheal

The Clinton Global Initiative funny you mention it, is already prepared to take measures that ensure no conflict of interest in the event of her election. But good try.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-campaign-2016-bill-clinton-20160919-story,amp.html?client=safari

AbusesToilets

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Nope you are a liar.

Evidence to back up that claim?

Pro Hoc Vice

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Evidence to back up that claim?

When did I call you a liar? Then I will happily back up the reason why I did.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

The Clinton Global Initiative funny you mention it, is already prepared to take measures that ensure no conflict of interest in the event of her election. But good try.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-campaign-2016-bill-clinton-20160919-story,amp.html?client=safari

Funny you mention that, but doing so is pretty much an admission that what they have done during her tenure as SoS was and involvement in wrongdoing, according to you.

And by the way, aren't they considering having Chelsa take over the duties of running the Clinton Global Initiative. Admittedly, it would be a tough task running both a pay-to-play scheme while performing the duties usually reserved for the First Lady. Hope she is up to it.

AbusesToilets

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

When did I call you a liar? Then I will happily back up the reason why I did.

Originally Posted by Pro Hoc Vice View Post
The markings are exactly the issue in a criminal case you know that but you lie to promote your own libertarian agenda. You know your candidate can't take votes from Trump so you attack the one they might abandon. Enjoy the racist you are helping to take the USA 50 years into the past hope you can sleep soundly.

I might also ad, I have no libertarian agenda. I stated I would vote for Johnson due to the abject and appalling nature of the two main party candidates.

Pro Hoc Vice

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I might also ad, I have no libertarian agenda. I stated I would vote for Johnson due to the abject and appalling nature of the two main party candidates.

Well you know the the 3 emails not correctly headed classified as they had (c) at the bottom, so as you knew that you have to be aware of the basis that it could not be proved she broke the law. So as you still repeating it must be a lie or stupid you decide. I'm happy with either.

Are you are supporting Johnson! So then you must have some support for his ideals if you don't why not pick green.

AbusesToilets

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Well you know the the 3 emails not correctly headed classified as they had (c) at the bottom, so as you knew that you have to be aware of the basis that it could not be proved she broke the law. So as you still repeating it must be a lie a stupid you decide.

Are you not supporting Johnson? So then you must have some support for his ideals if you don't why not pick green.

Again, you have failed to grasp the nature of the law surrounding classified materials, which is impressive given that I have posted the statutes here twice.

She transmitted classified emails on an unsecure network. A crime.

She allowed individuals without clearances access to said classified material. A crime.

She lied under oath. A crime.

Actions that were documented and admitted to by the FBI in testimony.

So again, where have I lied?

AbusesToilets

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Are you not supporting Johnson? So then you must have some support for his ideals if you don't why not pick green.

I dislike Stein and marginally dislike Johnson less.

Pro Hoc Vice

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Again, you have failed to grasp the nature of the law surrounding classified materials, which is impressive given that I have posted the statutes here twice.

She transmitted classified emails on an unsecure network. A crime.

She allowed individuals without clearances access to said classified material. A crime.

She lied under oath. A crime.

Actions that were documented and admitted to by the FBI in testimony.

So again, where have I lied?

And you keep ignoring the important words knowingly and willfully I take it back it's not a lie it's plain stupid.

Pro Hoc Vice

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I dislike Stein and marginally dislike Johnson less.

So you dislike Clinton and I assume Trump more than Stalin.

Black Swan

Amerika wrote: »

No story here. Trump said he would hand off the job of running the Trump business to his three kids.

What are the odds that Donald Trump will use the Oval Office to facilitate business deals as president, especially with nations that have rejected his golf resorts proposals in the past, and then send his kids to sign the contracts and collect the checks? America for sale to the highest bidder? Just like Trump said: “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”

johnnyskeleton

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Are you going to back up your claim of me lying or are you going to retract your comment?

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Nope you are a liar.

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

And you keep ignoring the important words knowingly and willfully I take it back it's not a lie it's plain stupid.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Again, you have failed to grasp the nature of the law surrounding classified materials, which is impressive given that I have posted the statutes here twice.

Mod Note:

Everyone on this thread knows what both of you are saying.

AbusesToilets is saying that the fact it was transmitted means it was a crime. Pro Hoc Vice is saying that without evidence of intention they cannot prosecute.

Any more of this derailing talk of who is or is not lying will result in a ban.

Amerika

Black Swan wrote: »

... America for sale to the highest bidder? Just like Trump said: “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”

Are you talking about what Trump might do, or what Hillary has already done?.

Overheal

Criminal intent is a hell of a thing. Take this guy for instance.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/man-who-hit-killed-local-mother-gets-60-days-in-jail

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

Are you talking about what Trump might do, or what Hillary has already done?.

If you're going to make accusations make them

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

If you're going to make accusations make them

I've reported on plenty already. Please try and keep up.

Black Swan

Amerika wrote: »

If elected president, Hillary Clinton could pull off three historic firsts. First woman elected US president, first spouse of a previous president elected POTUS,

Indeed, 2 historic firsts.

Amerika wrote: »

and first president to be impeached on day one of their presidency.

You know that Hillary Clinton will not be impeached 20 January 2017, so why bother to make such statements? But while introducing historic firsts, you forgot to mention that Hillary Clinton is now historically behind Donald Trump? Trump may be the 1st presidential nominee in US history to be running for president while at the same time being a defendant in 3 different trials in 2 different states, New York and California? And the first trial in US District Court is scheduled for 28 November 2016 for alleged "fraud, racketeering, and corruption."

Now what was the name of that for-profit university founded by Donald Trump in 2005 that was not legally a university according to New York law that was headquartered in Trump Tower? The one that collected 40 million USD, with 5 million USD going to Donald Trump, but failed only after 5 years of operation in 2010? Donald Trump failed? Did he really FAIL? I wonder what this failed "fake" university says about Donald Trump, especially the alleged charges of "fraud, racketeering, and corruption" which are REAL court charges for which Donald is REALLY being tried in US courts of law today, not accusations without legal merit made against his opponent.

Amerika

Black Swan wrote: »

Indeed, 2 historic firsts.

You know that Hillary Clinton will not be impeached 20 January 2017, so why bother to make such statements?

All things are possible, my dear.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mo-brooks-hillary-clinton-impeachment

But while introducing historic firsts, you forgot to mention that Hillary Clinton is now historically behind Donald Trump? Trump may be the 1st presidential nominee in US history to be running for president while at the same time being a defendant in 3 different trials in 2 different states, New York and California? And the first trial in US District Court is scheduled for 28 November 2016 for alleged "fraud, racketeering, and corruption."

Oh, I agree Trump will be involved in many 'firsts' as president.

Now what was the name of that for-profit university founded by Donald Trump in 2005 that was not legally a university according to New York law that was headquartered in Trump Tower? The one that collected 40 million USD, with 5 million USD going to Donald Trump, but failed only after 5 years of operation in 2010? Donald Trump failed? Did he really FAIL? I wonder what this failed "fake" university says about Donald Trump, especially the alleged charges of "fraud, racketeering, and corruption" which are REAL court charges for which Donald is REALLY being tried in US courts of law today, not accusations without legal merit made against his opponent.

You do know Bill Clinton has his own university scandal which netted him $16.5 million? Shame it's not getting the same coverage from our biased media as Trump's is, right?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/06/14/clinton-university-scandal-netted-bill-16-5-million.html

Black Swan

Amerika wrote: »

All things are possible, my dear.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mo-brooks-hillary-clinton-impeachment

GOP talking points per URL? This is mere GOP presidential election spin that's intended by Republicans to influence uninformed voters, and has no practical foundation in fact. If Hillary Clinton is elected, all this spin will mysteriously disappear just like the Ground Zero Mosque controversy disappeared immediately following the November general election.

Amerika wrote: »

You do know Bill Clinton has his own university scandal which netted him $16.5 million? Shame it's not getting the same coverage from our biased media as Trump's is, right?

Is Bill Clinton running for president 8 November 2016? This is news to me!

Or is Melania Trump running for president and not Donald, you know, the one that claimed "I wrote it" speech she gave at the July 2016 RNC that had large blocks of text that appeared in the 2008 speech given by Michelle Obama. The same wanna-be First Lady Melania that also claimed to have earned a degree in Design & Architecture after attending a Slovenia university for only one year (per the RNC programme and her website that was taken down shortly after the RNC)?

Amerika

Black Swan wrote: »

GOP talking points per URL? This is mere GOP presidential election spin that's intended by Republicans to influence uninformed voters, and has no practical foundation in fact. If Hillary Clinton is elected, all this spin will mysteriously disappear just like the Ground Zero Mosque controversy disappeared immediately following the November general election.

Perhaps, but it did show your statement was not as conclusive as you indicated.

Is Bill Clinton running for president 8 November 2016? This is news to me!

Or is Melania Trump running for president and not Donald, you know, the one that claimed "I wrote it" speech she gave at the July 2016 RNC that had large blocks of text that appeared in the 2008 speech given by Michelle Obama. The same wanna-be First Lady Melania that also claimed to have earned a degree in Design & Architecture after attending a Slovenia university for only one year (per the RNC programme and her website that was taken down shortly after the RNC)?

Did Hillary, as Bill's spouse, benefit from the money he brought into the family? Remember, when they left the White House they were 'dead broke' so every penny counted, right? And last I heard, they were still married... at least on paper.

Amerika

And what will President Trump do in his first week in office?

President Obama decided to govern by Executive Orders. The problem with that is if you govern by executive orders, then the next President can come in and overturn them.

So in week one Trump can negate the Paris Agreement on greenhouse-gas emissions. He can restart exploration of the Keystone pipeline. He can get really tough on the Iran agreement. He can suspend the Syrian refugee program. He can direct the Commerce Department to bring trade cases against China. He can go back to following our immigration laws and declare anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation, and act accordingly. He can curtail H-1B visas which are taking away skilled jobs from Americans. And he can ban anybody from countries experiencing problems with the exportation of terrorism such as Egypt, Syria, Libya, and Saudi Arabia from coming into the country until our vetting system is greatly improved.

All sound pretty good to me.

KingBrian2

Gintonious wrote: »

I don't think they are making him say the racist/xenophobic/sexist comments.

The media has a role to inform the people what we have here is 19th century yellow journalism. Editorials nitpicking and cross examining irrelevant pieces of information. Trump is not a seasoned politician and the media are trying to force him from the race by highlighting his bad points. Hillary has been given a free card to present a picture that is inherently untrue. Her policies as Secretary of State have cost lives, mainly Arab & African lives.