2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

KingBrian2

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

If trump in a position of power wanted to grab your mothers pussy how would you react.

And again Bill Clinton is not running for election and he was torn a new one by the media when he dipped his wick.

For the last time Trump is not a rapist which is what the media is portraying him as. The implication is there for everyone to see. Do you believe he is a rapist?

Feline Grabber

RobertKK wrote: »

It will be a third term for both in the White House.
Hillary didn't deny that she laughed at getting a 12 year old's rapist off.
Hillary didn't deny she went after women whom Bill sexually assaulted.

But you support the pedo. I'm assuming you think Trump raped the child if you accuse Clinton of these.

Overheal

Imagine if he wins this in November somehow, he'll be on trial for raping a child in December.

Billy86

Overheal wrote: »

Imagine if he wins this in November somehow, he'll be on trial for raping a child in December.

I get the feeling that and even moreso, the multiple trials he has for stealing millions from the US taxpaying public via Trump University fraud actually have quite a role to play in his motivation for making a run for the presidency.

He knows he's up the river on the latter, at the very least.

BorneTobyWilde

There are vast amount of simple folk who live in middle of know where in every state. These people are not showing up in current polls, but when it comes to voting they will be out in their thousands, this will tip a lot of states in Trumps favour .

Billy86

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

There are vast amount of simple folk who live in middle of know where in every state. These people are not showing up in current polls, but when it comes to voting they will be out in their thousands, this will tip a lot of states in Trumps favour .

Honest question...

Do you know what a telephone is?

Zubeneschamali

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

These people are not showing up in current polls, but when it comes to voting they will be out in their thousands, this will tip a lot of states in Trumps favour .

So you're saying the polls are skewed?

How'd that story work out for Mitt Romney?

Pro Hoc Vice

KingBrian2 wrote: »

For the last time Trump is not a rapist which is what the media is portraying him as. The implication is there for everyone to see. Do you believe he is a rapist?

Did I call him a rapist in my post. Read what I said and either answer or ignore your choice.

But in answer to your question no I do not believe he is a rapist nor do I believe Bill Clinton is but I would have no problem introducing Bill to a female family member but I would not trust Trump not to make any female family member feel a bit dirty just seeing him.

Overheal

Billy86 wrote: »

I get the feeling that and even moreso, the multiple trials he has for stealing millions from the US taxpaying public via Trump University fraud actually have quite a role to play in his motivation for making a run for the presidency.

He knows he's up the river on the latter, at the very least.

Maybe he thinks he can get himself pardoned

Maybe that's the deal he has with Pence

Hey it worked for Nixon.

Billy86

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

So you're saying the polls are skewed?

How'd that story work out for Mitt Romney?

Or any of these guys, now that you mention it...

Billy86 wrote: »

Well they got the Democratic primaries right - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_2016_presidential_primaries

And the Republican primaries - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2016_presidential_primaries#Polls_conducted_in_2016

They seemed to have 2012 correct too, now that you mention it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2012

Just as they had on the 2012 Republican primaries - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2012_presidential_primaries

And the 2008 election - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2008

As well as the incredibly tight 2008 Democratic primaries - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

And in the 2008 Republican primaries, they predicted a landslide. McCain won in a landslide - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2008_presidential_primaries

alastair

RobertKK wrote: »

Maybe you laugh more than once while discussing a case about the rape of a 12 year old child, like Hillary does, I seriously doubt you would be looking for humour in such a discussion, so I don't know why you would want to defend her.

So, that would be a "no" then?
Why the pretence she was laughing at 'getting a rapist off' then?

Sparks43

Someone just got lifted by the cops at the Clinton rally in Detroit.

oik

Overheal wrote: »

Imagine if he wins this in November somehow, he'll be on trial for raping a child in December.

That will never go to court.

The story has been rubbished from top to bottom. Those pushing it are NeverTrumpers who are either taking advantage of some woman or else the woman doesn't even exist.

I encourage you to read some of the analysis of it, I'm confident you will reach the same conclusion as I have.

http://jezebel.com/heres-how-that-wild-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-1782447083
http://jezebel.com/the-source-pushing-the-trump-rape-lawsuits-may-not-be-w-1783270283
http://jezebel.com/woman-who-says-trump-raped-her-files-to-dismiss-lawsuit-1786717971

PopePalpatine

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

There are vast amount of simple folk who live in middle of know where in every state. These people are not showing up in current polls, but when it comes to voting they will be out in their thousands, this will tip a lot of states in Trumps favour .

If there was such a vast amount of people in the middle of nowhere which was enough to tip so many states in Trump's favour, they wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere.

Overheal

oik wrote: »

That will never go to court.

The hearing is December 16th.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

You should look at newer articles before jumping to conclusions.

oik

Overheal wrote: »

The hearing is December 16th.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

You should look at newer articles before jumping to conclusions.

I meant trial

But you clearly didn't read any of the articles given the speed of your response.

BorneTobyWilde

http://www.270towin.com/

BorneTobyWilde

http://www.270towin.com/maps/VKRgR

oik

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If there was such a vast amount of people in the middle of nowhere which was enough to tip so many states in Trump's favour, they wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere.

That's not necessarily true.

46 million people live in rural areas. This is a demographic Romney won with about 52% (from memory) in swing states.

Trump is holding rallies in small rural towns and rural voters have probably picked up on that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-skips-swing-state-cities-opts-for-rural-town-instead/2016/09/20/0a4ec84c-7f08-11e6-ad0e-ab0d12c779b1_story.html

Overheal

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

http://www.270towin.com/maps/VKRgR

If the votes were cast today,

http://www.270towin.com/maps/8Xzlb

PopePalpatine

So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?

oik

Overheal wrote: »

Definitely a possibility.

Now that I've said "court" instead of "trial" it's basically a certainty.

oik

PopePalpatine wrote: »

So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?

What are you getting at?

Overheal

And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

Overheal

oik wrote: »

Now that I've said "court" instead of "trial" it's basically a certainty.

Good to see you have a firm grasp of that the subject was.

oik

Exit polls put Romney at +20 with rural swing state voters overperforming polls that had him at +14

Trump is already beating Romney with 24+ in that category.

I'm not going to support the previous poster's claim that the rural vote is going to win the election for Trump, I think Trump has an opportunity to turn things around the next month, but he is capturing demographics that haven't voted in a long time just like Obama did.

oik

Overheal wrote: »

And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12.

Pro Hoc Vice

oik wrote: »

Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12.

God is there no depths some of ye won't go to. Where is the attack on the victim. There is a report that a PAC supporting Trump has paid her $2,500.

PopePalpatine

oik wrote: »

What are you getting at?

What I'm getting at is that despite his lead among rural voters in swing states, Romney only won a single swing state in 2012, North Carolina.

Pink states are states which Obama won by <4%, purple means Obama won by 4-8%, and that single red state was a Romney win.

Guess how North Carolina is leaning right now?

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

I dunno. Off hand this seems to be little more than another desperate attempt to bring down Trump. This time by a federal judge appointed by President Barack Obama. The rape case has been filed twice before, with the most recent case in California dismissed in May 2016. Is there any question that similar stories will come out against Bill Clinton who took at least 26 trips on Epstein’s infamous private sex plane? You know there is a reason Hillary hasn't touched this thing with a 10-foot pole.

Edit:
A quick search and.... wham! Apparently from the article Bill Clinton us just as guilty (or innocent).

Now I guess all we need to do is find a sleezy lawyer and a judge with an ax to grind against Bill Clinton, and we can have dueling child sex court hearings. Is Prince Andrew next?

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sex-slave-makes-disturbing-accusations-bill-clinton/

TheDoctor

So watched the end of last night there.

Clear clear winner after seeing it all.

Ken Bone

RobertKK

Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

One of the Clinton advisors said Chelsea Clinton is a spoiled brat and has a lack of focus in life.

Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.

An email shows Hillary was told she should stop telling lies about Bernie, as she does it often, because Bernie they believed would support her and her attacks on him are not going to give any gain.
The email said that Hillary is totally dependent on the Republicans choosing Trump. That Hillary has huge endemic political weaknesses, and that Ted Cruz would likely beat Hillary.

People close to the Clintons pushing for 'the less Bill the better' due to his 'sex life'.

John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.

Feline Grabber

PopePalpatine wrote: »

So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?

Remember president Romney? So much for the rural voters.

bajer101

Good article about Trump and the GOP by George F. Will, the conservative journalist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-vile-candidacy-is-chemotherapy-for-the-gop/2016/10/10/73e40f30-8f05-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html?postshare=2731476126199748&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.72dac0dff0d7

oik

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

God is there no depths some of ye won't go to. Where is the attack on the victim. There is a report that a PAC supporting Trump has paid her $2,500.

I say there won't be an attack.

oik

PopePalpatine wrote: »

What I'm getting at is that despite his lead among rural voters in swing states, Romney only won a single swing state in 2012, North Carolina.

Pink states are states which Obama won by <4%, purple means Obama won by 4-8%, and that single red state was a Romney win.

Guess how North Carolina is leaning right now?

So?

Trump is beating Romney with rural voters.

oik

RobertKK wrote: »

Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.


John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.

UFOs and blaming Russia for everything.

Baby boomers really are the worst.

captbarnacles

RobertKK wrote: »

Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

One of the Clinton advisors said Chelsea Clinton is a spoiled brat and has a lack of focus in life.

Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.

An email shows Hillary was told she should stop telling lies about Bernie, as she does it often, because Bernie they believed would support her and her attacks on him are not going to give any gain.
The email said that Hillary is totally dependent on the Republicans choosing Trump. That Hillary has huge endemic political weaknesses, and that Ted Cruz would likely beat Hillary.

People close to the Clintons pushing for 'the less Bill the better' due to his 'sex life'.

John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.

*faints*

oik

RobertKK wrote: »

Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

Not just Bill but Chelsea too.

WJC stands for William Jefferson Clinton. CVC stands for Chelsea Victoria Clinton.

Billy86

captbarnacles wrote: »

*faints*

You can taste the desperation at this point. Assange has done some incredible damage to his reputation in the last 12 months or so, also. It is interesting how caught in up Bill Clinton some guys wanted for rape seem to be, though.

ebbsy

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

oik wrote: »

Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12.

God is there no depths some of ye won't go to. Where is the attack on the victim. There is a report that a PAC supporting Trump has paid her $2,500.

Crooked Hillary didnt deny it.

Pro Hoc Vice

ebbsy wrote: »

Crooked Hillary didnt deny it.

Deny what?

Overheal

ebbsy wrote: »

Crooked Hillary didnt deny it.

Silence speaks volumes but sound bytes are forever

Pro Hoc Vice

oik wrote: »

I say there won't be an attack.

What I replied to, "Quote: oik
Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12."

So what are you saying?

Billy86

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

What I replied to, "Quote: oik
Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12."

So what are you saying?

Let's just say... I wouldn't bother.

oik

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

What I replied to, "Quote: oik
Hardly.

Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12."

So what are you saying?

Was replying to this

Overheal wrote: »

And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

I took that to mean that the Clinton campaign would be able to blunt this line of attack by accusing the rape victim of being a paid shill.

RobertKK

Billy86 wrote: »

You can taste the desperation at this point. Assange has done some incredible damage to his reputation in the last 12 months or so, also. It is interesting how caught in up Bill Clinton some guys wanted for rape seem to be, though.

I don't see the desperation, didn't see Hillary say they were fake.

We are just seeing none of these people are nice people, and anyone who is getting passionate about these people are suffering from delusion (not saying you are) but that is why this election is about who one dislikes the least rather than likes the most.

Pro Hoc Vice

oik wrote: »

Was replying to this



I took that to mean that the Clinton campaign would be able to blunt this line of attack by accusing the rape victim of being a paid shill.

Has Clinton done so? Did the Clinton team line up unpaid contractors or the women who have made claims about trump or the child he called to be executed and condemned the state of New York's settlement for years of prison time for an innocent child. Did the Clinton team line up any of them at a press event before a presidential debate? I'll give you the answer no they did not.

Billy86

RobertKK wrote: »

I don't see the desperation, didn't see Hillary say they were fake.

We are just seeing none of these people are nice people, and anyone who is getting passionate about these people are suffering from delusion (not saying you are) but that is why this election is about who one dislikes the least rather than likes the most.

"Her daughter is loike, such a brat, ohmigawd!" though, is as desperate as desperate can get in terms of presidential election arguments.

Either way the election is over, if you don't want Clinton to have power by far the best area to focus on would be the House and especially the Senate.

oik

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Has Clinton done so? Did the Clinton team line up unpaid contractors or the women who have made claims about trump or the child he called to be executed and condemned the state of New York's settlement for years of prison time for an innocent child. Did the Clinton team line up any of them at a press event before a presidential debate? I'll give you the answer no they did not.

Tangent much?