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woejus

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

lol.. *rubs hands again*

"I turned and rubbed my hands with glee. I always keep a tin of glee handy"
Spike Milligan

Dan Jaman

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Just on this point btw, I had a conversation with the MD of an Advertising Agency a number of years back and he was telling me about the pitching process for semi states. He said that semi states (and de Gubbermint btw) like to know they're getting the best. And how do they judge that? By the fees - the most expensive almost always wins. He explained they jack up their prices enormously when they're invited to pitch for such work.

True story.

And the favourite time to pitch for such business is towards the end of the financial year when there's unspent money still sloshing around.

ButtersSuki

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

FF and sessions

mojesius

'Contribute to Irish community', no mention of contributing towards the economy.

snubbleste

Jeez, Ellie is good at spinning.

Atlantic Dawn

What war torn area did she come from?

Dan Jaman

snubbleste wrote: »

Jeez, Ellie is good at spinning.

Is she, now? I'll give her a shed and a jenny, she can knock out some woollens for me.

snubbleste

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What war torn area did she come from?

Southern Africa.

jetfiremuck

ButtersSuki wrote: »

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

FF and sessions

Looks like he could wait for the pint to settle before gulping it down.

Atlantic Dawn

snubbleste wrote: »

Southern Africa.

Perhaps they were filming a movie there that she thought was a war.

PauloMN

snubbleste wrote: »

Southerndren Africa.

FYP

Fujitsu10

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What war torn area did she come from?

Ballyer..?

No way is South Africa an unsafe place to live...unless you are in some way involved in crime.

Visited there last year, richer society in a lot of places than Ireland.

Very unfair of Joe to have one person on one side and a tribe of asylum seekers to shout him down.

Disgraceful broadcastbg, plus Joe is supposed to be impartial


he is anything but.

Plus Joe keeps silencing anyone who is not full of praise for these economic migrants.

shocking one sided view (as usual)

ButtersSuki

Dan Jaman wrote: »

And the favourite time to pitch for such business is towards the end of the financial year when there's unspent money still sloshing around.

Yup, the classic "use it or lose it" budgetary dye-lemma so to speak.

snubbleste

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Perhaps they were filming a movie there that she thought was a war.

She said she wanted a better life for her children. That is all.
A welfare tourist then

ButtersSuki

Deleted User wrote: »

No way is South Africa an unsafe place to live...unless you are in some way involved in crime.

Visited there last year, richer society in a lot of places than Ireland.

Very unfair of Joe to have one person on one side and a tribe of asylum seekers to shout him down.

Disgraceful broadcastbg, plus Joe is supposed to be impartial


he is anything but.

Are you new here? :rolleyes::):D

BPKS

Paul is next in the queue at the top of the rank, doesnt want to miss a fare.

SEPT 23 1989

if he gets more angry he wont get the words out

Big C

Fujitsu10 wrote: »

Ballyer..?

mun or fermot ???

snubbleste

You promised to let Paul back in, Joe

Fujitsu10

Big C wrote: »

mun or fermot ???

Take your pick Caller!

Atlantic Dawn

Would this priest support the handing out of condoms at these centres?

SEPT 23 1989

your gang terrorised the children priest

mojesius

snubbleste wrote: »

You promised to let Paul back in, Joe

Paul spontaneously combusted with outrage during the break.

ButtersSuki

Joe in a hurry to get out to de jag there.

Yew Ormond produced again.

PauloMN

News with Shane MacGowan. Always get a giggle from that.

foggy_lad

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

lol.. *rubs hands again*

Joe: "Ooooooh, There'll be anoter bestselling buuk in al these asylum seekers!"

sligojoek

Roger_007 wrote: »

"They won't give me a new phone, Joe; it's a disgrace!"

Leave it on a bus. The social will give you a new one.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

No way is South Africa an unsafe place to live...unless you are in some way involved in crime.

Visited there last year, richer society in a lot of places than Ireland.

Very unfair of Joe to have one person on one side and a tribe of asylum seekers to shout him down.

Disgraceful broadcastbg, plus Joe is supposed to be impartial


he is anything but.

Plus Joe keeps silencing anyone who is not full of praise for these economic migrants.

shocking one sided view (as usual)

Would you ever cop on, ever been to Soweto, or Kwa Mashu?

Odyssey 2005

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Thought [children's allowance] was 188 but either way that's why they're having them..

Asylum seekers are not entitled to Child Benefit. They do, however, receive a payment of €15.60 per week per child.

If you think anyone is turning a profit out of €140 per month, let alone a mere €15.60 per week per child, I have to genuinely ask whether you are aware of the costs of raising a child? From that €15.60, a person living in Direct Provision is obliged for all of the child's needs aside from shelter and the main meals. They have to try to pay for their own children's school expenses and clothing, just like everybody else.

In some cases, the child in question is an Irish citizen. This is a pretty appalling state of affairs, and I do think it's something this Society will be condemned for in coming years, and we deserve that.

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Out of direct provision,then on the dole,kids allowance,housing list.jesus does it ever end

If someone spends 8 years in Direct Provision, and therefore barred from working, is it any wonder that when they are finally naturalised, they are not particularly employable?

We are shooting ourselves in the foot with this ludicrous policy of prohibiting access to work. Anyone can come to this country on a student visa, enrol in a cheap English-language course, and can automatically work part-time. Why can we not allow asylum seekers to work, even part-time, after a year has elapsed in their application.

Our policy is a large part of the reason these individuals often end up unemployed.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

you have been repeatedly refused entry thats why you are there 8 years

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Felix: De reason they appeal is they got it wrong

Well, yes. They do get it wrong. The Court have fired several shots across the bows, telling the Refugee Appeals Tribunal to get its act together.

We have one of the worst records worldwide for refusing asylum claims, compared to other countries per head of population. The population of Norway is similar to ours, yet it grants twenty times the amount of asylum applications we do. Norway is widely recognized as a template for asylum and integration.

But it's not only that we're not as good as Norway. Backwaters like Jordan, Burundi and Rwanda put us to shame, in their willingness to grant asylum.

So yes, they do get it wrong, and have been repeatedly criticized by the courts for their inconsistency and irrational decisions. The Refugee Appeals Tribunal is comprised of part-time decision-makers, with no specialist training, who are typically party hacks