Bloggers and #ad (Naming bloggers means a ban!)

ratmouse

heretogetreal wrote: »

I've talked to a girl who worked in the jewellers months ago- when she said where she worked someone in the group asked about the ring being free & she said it was but wouldn't elaborate further (got the impression she already regretted saying so much) cited strict confidentially n all that.

Is it just me or, despite getting other things free/gifted/sponsored, is it kind of sad to get something as special as an engagement ring for free? Even if someone didn't have much cash, engagement rings don't have to be super expensive .Some even present family heirlooms or antique rings as engagement rings purely because of the sentimental and personal value attached to said actions . To go and possibly blag a jewellery item as special and personal as an engagement ring for free just seems so cold and impersonal. I don't care if anyone else comes on here and says it's money smart on their part, some things should come from the heart irrespective of the price.

Hopeful2016

Hopeful2016 wrote: »

Her explanation doesn't make much sense, New Jeans blogger is a brand ambassador for the butter company but she still includes AD (very discreetly though) when she posts about them. Why would she do this if it wasn't necessary? We know she isn't exactly a shining beacon when comes to disclosure in general. So how is that different to Fairy blogger?

Plus an ad is an ad (we know she's being paid) whether it's on social media or traditional media, just because she isn't on the telly plugging these teas doesn't mean it's not an ad. If she was in a TV ad, would she think it wasn't really an ad because she's a brand ambassador?

Obviously quoting my own post here but I was thinking maybe it's because she discloses in the same piece that she's a brand ambassador e.g. if it was a tweet, if in the tweet she said she was a brand ambassador then she wouldn't need to #ad too as she's covered by disclosing she's working with them. Snapchat is different though, the disclosure would need to be in every snap would it not? Not just in one random snap in the middle of 10 or 15 other snaps about the product.

Just going off my understanding of how it works in the US with twitter, could be different here.

retro:electro

ratmouse wrote: »

Is it just me or, despite getting other things free/gifted/sponsored, is it kind of sad to get something as special as an engagement ring for free? Even if someone didn't have much cash, engagement rings don't have to be super expensive .Some even present family heirlooms or antique rings as engagement rings purely because of the sentimental and personal value attached to said actions . To go and possibly blag a jewellery item as special and personal as an engagement ring for free just seems so cold and impersonal. I don't care if anyone else comes on here and says it's money smart on their part, some things should come from the heart irrespective of the price.

It's tacky. Especially when you don't have to put your hand into your pocket that much. She'll have that ring for life and everytime she looks at it she will think "freebie", whereas others will look at theirs and admire it in a different light, and think how lucky they are to own such a gorgeous ring that their partner put so much thought and effort into buying.

MuffinTop86

"Will you marry me?"

*flashes super white perfect smile courtesy of being blogger boyfriend*

"Yes! Let's take a selfie!"

"Ok but stick this on quick and mention the jewellers loads cos If you don't they'll make me pay for that."

:-D

ratmouse

anna080 wrote: »

It's tacky. Especially when you don't have to put your hand into your pocket that much. She'll have that ring for life and everytime she looks at it she will think "freebie", whereas others will look at theirs and admire it in a different light, and think how lucky they are to own such a gorgeous ring that their partner put so much thought and effort into buying.

Exactly Anna. No sense of it being personal and from the heart if deals were being struck for some sort of deal/possible freebie

Cria

heretogetreal wrote: »

I've talked to a girl who worked in the jewellers months ago- when she said where she worked someone in the group asked about the ring being free & she said it was but wouldn't elaborate further (got the impression she already regretted saying so much) cited strict confidentially n all that.

Same here I know a girl who works there she said the same thing free in return for advertisement.
Same with a couple I know providing for the wedding sad really takes away the whole romance and intimacy of a wedding.
All for show

Cria

anna080 wrote: »

It's tacky. Especially when you don't have to put your hand into your pocket that much. She'll have that ring for life and everytime she looks at it she will think "freebie", whereas others will look at theirs and admire it in a different light, and think how lucky they are to own such a gorgeous ring that their partner put so much thought and effort into buying.

It takes away from the whole sentiment. It's so crass to use something as special as your engagement and your wedding as one endless promotion, so classless.
If she snapchats that wedding and any company who provided for them then shame on her.
What's the bet the hotel, hairdresser, make up artist, florist, wedding band, the bridal shop, all get a special mention:D.

What happened to an old fashioned thank you card send privately lol.

hearmehearye

Cria wrote: »

It takes away from the whole sentiment. It's so crass to use something as special as your engagement and your wedding as one endless promotion, so classless.
If she snapchats that wedding and any company who provided for them then shame on her.
What's the bet the hotel, hairdresser, make up artist, florist, wedding band, the bridal shop, all get a special mention:D.

What happened to an old fashioned thank you card send privately lol.

The wedding singer is already someone that's a prominent snapchatter. I quite like the singer but it will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. The wedding reminds me of those charity mock weddings that used to be all the rage years ago. I'll be very interested to see who/what gets plugged.

SB_Part2

Let's hope the engagement ring blogger isn't reading this and nobody gets fired for blabbing from that jewellers.

Cria

hearmehearye wrote: »

The wedding singer is already someone that's a prominent snapchatter. I quite like the singer but it will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. The wedding reminds me of those charity mock weddings that used to be all the rage years ago. I'll be very interested to see who/what gets plugged.

Really I didn't know that, id say everyone and anyone will be plugged the priest and all will probably get a shout out lol.

Danielle1288

SB_Part2 wrote: »

Let's hope the engagement ring blogger isn't reading this and nobody gets fired for blabbing from that jewellers.

I think there's a blogger friend amongst us 😬🙈

SB_Part2

Danielle1288 wrote: »

I think there's a blogger friend amongst us 😬🙈

Nope not a friend of hers. Since the other bloggers are reading this it's not beyond the realms of possibility that she is as well. And if there was a confidentiality agreement about her ring that someone in there blabbed about she's well within her rights to complain about it.

Unless of course she was paid AND got the ring but I'd highly doubt that.

retro:electro

Well hopefully that article has been some kind of wake up call for some bloggers and made them aware that there are people watching them, people who are outside the echo chamber of their spoon fed worshippers, and people who have the capacity for critical thought and who aren't afraid to call them out for not being transparent. Although it's kinda gas that even journalists doing their job get called haters and jealous. Nobody is immune from being a hater. Lol.
Hopefully it induces self observation, and the ability to think about what they post and the consequences of it before they post it.

retro:electro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

Nope not a friend of hers. Since the other bloggers are reading this it's not beyond the realms of possibility that she is as well. And if there was a confidentiality agreement about her ring that someone in there blabbed about she's well within her rights to complain about it.

Unless of course she was paid AND got the ring but I'd highly doubt that.

To be a fly on the wall for that conversation:

Blogger: "How dare you break our confidentiality agreement and say my ring was free"

Jeweller: "Oh ya. Sorry about that"

Blogger: "too late for that, our deal is over"

Jeweller: "okay, that'll be 5 grand so please"

Blogger: "........."

ratmouse

SB_Part2 wrote: »

Let's hope the engagement ring blogger isn't reading this and nobody gets fired for blabbing from that jewellers.

What, like the time an airline staff member was concerned about being reported on for opening her mouth about a bloggers flight detail?

heyjude88

To be honest, the blogger in question won't be too bothered i'm sure. Everything she posts is very pre-meditated I find.
Her FB and Instagram are just the same as everybody elses. However her snapchat is normally very boring. Its basically snaps of her dog/home or else she comes on while she's be driven in the car to basically give people information about her own products, her masterclasses or #ad products. Nothing special. It's all about herself.

She's very much business orientated. I doubt she will do anything, sure she has been silent about all these #ad issues.

EDIT: forget about the airline incident Did she actually follow through with reporting her? If so, the girl in the ring shop might be getting her P45. :cool:

SB_Part2

ratmouse wrote: »

What, like the time an airline staff member was concerned about being reported on for opening her mouth about a bloggers flight detail?

What?

ratmouse

heyjude88 wrote: »

To be honest, the blogger in question won't be too bothered i'm sure. Everything she posts is very pre-meditated I find.
Her FB and Instagram are just the same as everybody elses. However her snapchat is normally very boring. Its basically snaps of her dog/home or else she comes on while she's be driven in the car to basically give people information about her own products, her masterclasses or #ad products. Nothing special. It's all about herself.

She's very much business orientated. I doubt she will do anything, sure she has been silent about all these #ad issues.

EDIT: forget about the airline incident Did she actually follow through with reporting her? If so, the girl in the ring shop might be getting her P45. :cool:

No idea how it all panned out. I remember people on Facebook saying that the airline staff member was only a young person and to give them a break and bit get them into trouble .

Hopeful2016

So Currys blogger has addressed yesterday's article (re. the baby formula) in a very short post on the Facebook page of the support group she set up. Predictably, two comments in the old "jealousy" chestnut has been trotted out.

At this time she still does not appear to have addressed the TV situation....

ETA: Interesting to note that the comment was posted from her personal Facebook profile, not her blogger one even though the offending snaps came from her blogger-persona Snapchat account.

One might think that's a deliberate attempt to distance her blogger business from the "scandal". I'd imagine the C&G were less than thrilled to be dragged in to such an affair given the seriousness of the issue of promoting formula.

heyjude88

Hopeful2016 wrote: »

So Currys blogger has addressed yesterday's article (re. the baby formula) in a very short post on the Facebook page of the support group she set up. Predictably, two comments in the old "jealousy" chestnut has been trotted out.

At this time she still does not appear to have addressed the TV situation....

ETA: Interesting to note that the comment was posted from her personal Facebook profile, not her blogger one even though the offending snaps came from her blogger-persona Snapchat account.

One might think that's a deliberate attempt to distance her blogger business from the "scandal". I'd imagine the C&G were less than thrilled to be dragged in to such an affair given the seriousness of the issue of promoting formula.

You can clearly see by the comment c&g gave to yesterdays article that they are trying to distance themselves from her and all of this mess :rolleyes:

Cria

ratmouse wrote: »

No idea how it all panned out. I remember people on Facebook saying that the airline staff member was only a young person and to give them a break and bit get them into trouble .

I never heard this story do tell lol

Cria

heyjude88 wrote: »

You can clearly see by the comment c&g gave to yesterdays article that they are trying to distance themselves from her and all of this mess :rolleyes:

Where is c&g's comment posted ?.

hearmehearye

Cria wrote: »

Where is c&g's comment posted ?.

It was in the article. Someone has photos a few posts back.

ratmouse

Cria wrote: »

I never heard this story do tell lol

It was ages ago Cria on Facebook .Something to do with blogger supposedly being unhappy about some element of airline service .An employee of said airline left a comment (which she shouldn't have to be fair). It was then inferred that airline would be contacted about that employee.

That story aside, what did c&g say regarding the sponsored post?

scarbouro

hearmehearye wrote: »

It was in the article. Someone has photos a few posts back.

How far back? I can't remember seeing that post and I've been following. Tried going back to find it with no luck!

heyjude88

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Suppose there will be a lot more sponsored content #ad if there has to be a mortgage got.

Hopeful2016

heyjude88 wrote: »

Here

The odd thing about C&G's comment is that they have stated they had worked with her and referred specifically to her real name and completely distanced themselves from her blogger persona. However if you look at C&G's Facebook page, anytime she worked with them and did a video they referred to her as her blogger name, not her real name.

I think C&G are being very disingenuous here. They CLEARLY worked with her because she is a blogger and has a large following and now they are distancing themselves from her blog. Do they honestly expect us to believe they would have hired her if no one knew who she was?!

I feel as if they have cut her loose and tbh think it's a bit cut-throat. She has been kinda thrown to the wolves. She may not have actually known the rules around baby formula advertising. They certainly did and should have made it absolutely clear to her not to stray in to that territory. Not defending her, she should be informing herself of important rules and regs if she's going to work with brands in industries she is unfamiliar with, but the end game is that is doesn't reflect well on either her or he company.

SB_Part2

I think you're reading waaay too much into that.

Hopeful2016

SB_Part2 wrote: »

I think you're reading waaay too much into that.

I doubt it. They were very specific in their response.

silvervixen84

The ASAI code of standards likely follows the equivalent in the UK but it's also worth seeing how things are done in the US, where the mega-influencers make a killing.

The Fashion Law is a great site that often highlights international bloggers and influencers' use or non-use of correct hashtags when doing sponsored posts. I found this particular post very interesting:

http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/a-how-to-guide-for-properly-disclosing-your-sponsored-posts

The Irish bloggers and influencers have been basking in the attention and freebies and have not really been held accountable for non-disclosure. I'm sure sometimes it's pure forgetfulness (they are human) but other times it's a case of ignorance of the code or an attitude of 'ah sure it doesn't really matter'. This is what needs to change.

If it's sponsored, they should simply disclose it immediately as #spon #ad or #sample
It would be ASAI compliant, keep a high level of transparency from both influencer and brand with the loyal followers, and keeps us happy too

Sorry for the long post!

Cria

hearmehearye wrote: »

It was in the article. Someone has photos a few posts back.

Thank you

Cria

ratmouse wrote: »

It was ages ago Cria on Facebook .Something to do with blogger supposedly being unhappy about some element of airline service .An employee of said airline left a comment (which she shouldn't have to be fair). It was then inferred that airline would be contacted about that employee.

That story aside, what did c&g say regarding the sponsored post?

Ah I never heard that story thanks .. I'm going to look at the photos to see what c&g said

IRE60

silvervixen84 wrote: »

http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/a-how-to-guide-for-properly-disclosing-your-sponsored-posts

Good set of guidelines - very clear.

qxtasybe1nwfh2

silvervixen84 wrote: »

I'm sure sometimes it's pure forgetfulness (they are human) but other times it's a case of ignorance of the code or an attitude of 'ah sure it doesn't really matter'. This is what needs to change. /quote]

Yes I agree with this! One blogger I was fond of tried to defend not using #ad on Snapchat because it was enoying having to keep typing it on every snap. Somehow they manage to use a filter with snaps talking to the camera though. This completely put me off her. I can't walk into my job and break the rules that that are tedious because I couldn't be bothered.

hearmehearye

I see aldi are no longer involved in Curry's coffee morning.

Cria

hearmehearye wrote: »

I see aldi are no longer involved in Curry's coffee morning.

Are they not ,it must be from all the negativity surrounding her lately. Them and c&g must be distancing themselves from her.

Dolbert

Cria wrote: »

Are they not ,it must be from all the negativity surrounding her lately. Them and c&g must be distancing themselves from her.

That or the fact that she was plugging Lidl products at the same time as announcing the Aldi collaboration!

SB_Part2

hearmehearye wrote: »

I see aldi are no longer involved in Curry's coffee morning.

Where did you see that? Sounds like they are annoyed with her.

Cria

Dolbert wrote: »

That or the fact that she was plugging Lidl products at the same time as announcing the Aldi collaboration!

I'd say your right. If I was a company wanting a blogger to advertise for me I wouldn't pick one who constantly promotes other companies.
It just looks like it's all about €€, she is one of the worst bloggers to do this.

She doesn't want to be completely transparent and just Carrys on doing it even when she's questioned.

I have followed the main ones since they started loved reading the blogs and watching their YouTube channels. There has been a huge change in the last two years since companies got involved.

The currys blogger was so enthusiastic when she started she loved doing make up tutorials and give tips ect.

Now it's just and odd blog which is advertising companies and Snapchat of her in bed or constantly her baby and plugging brands.

I've been reading about a few bloggers who have stopped now after years of blogging because of the changes, they are getting pushed aside because they won't sell their souls to these companies.

Cria

SB_Part2 wrote: »

Where did you see that? Sounds like they are annoyed with her.

Her Snapchat I believe

Hopeful2016

Yeah, they were either annoyed with her plugging themselves and Lidl the same day or she's toxic now that she's apparently being investigated by the ASAI over the baby formula.

heyjude88

She didn't even seem bothered when she said they weren't involved anymore!

Anyone else see the ring bloggers snap today ? A picture of those onion ring crisps.... coincidence? she clearly doesn't have a care in the world haha.

Cria

heyjude88 wrote: »

She didn't even seem bothered when she said they weren't involved anymore!

Anyone else see the ring bloggers snap today ? A picture of those onion ring crisps.... coincidence? she clearly doesn't have a care in the world haha.

Sponsors of the wedding ring maybe ? Lol

Cria

Hopeful2016 wrote: »

Yeah, they were either annoyed with her plugging themselves and Lidl the same day or she's toxic now that she's apparently being investigated by the ASAI over the baby formula.

More than likely the investigation.
I wonder are aldi and c&g still working with her.

Loughc

Cria wrote: »

More than likely the investigation.
I wonder are aldi and c&g still working with her.

PMSL at this blogger. In one snap she announced ALDI have pulled out of the coffee morning and two snaps later she was filming shopping in LIDL. Bitchy haha.

aine92

Can someone Pm who the singer is at Top Dublin Bloggers wedding?

Mzo1978

Met my friend today for a chat and she follows the main one there she was snapping from dogs trust I've been an avid donation giver to dogs trust for many a year but why they have her even associated with them is beyond me she has two pure bred dogs the little one only a year or so maybe?... and they clearly came from a breeder/ glorified puppy farm ... now maybe she just dropped them down a donation or some food ... but I will be very surprised to see if they are using her in a campaign

ratmouse

Mzo1978 wrote: »

Met my friend today for a chat and she follows the main one there she was snapping from dogs trust I've been an avid donation giver to dogs trust for many a year but why they have her even associated with them is beyond me she has two pure bred dogs the little one only a year or so maybe?... and they clearly came from a breeder/ glorified puppy farm ... now maybe she just dropped them down a donation or some food ... but I will be very surprised to see if they are using her in a campaign

I think you're right, I think she might be an ambassador but could be wrong. Or was it the ISPCA? Thought she was a strange choice for either charity. Neither dog is a rescue

Cria

Loughc wrote: »

PMSL at this blogger. In one snap she announced ALDI have pulled out of the coffee morning and two snaps later she was filming shopping in LIDL. Bitchy haha.

Haha did she