Arsenal V Liverpool 4PM 1st Super Sunday of 2016/17

Mr.Crinklewood

There's a talking dog on tv.

Kerrigooney

Don't deserve to be level but I'll take it.

You'd imagine there'd be quite a few bollockings at half time and an improvement in the second half.

Lalanna has been awful...keeps giving the ball away in dangerous areas.

Vicxas

Thank God for Coutinho. I think we need Origi to come on.

shamrock55

Pool really need a serious kicking at half time though,that was a shocking first half that shouldn't be papered over by that free kick

enzo roco

noodler wrote: »

You are going to have to address the reasons outlined by my self and other posters as to why he was at fault.

This Gary Nevelle told us so sh1te is childish.

We did not have anything approaching secure possession, he left his entire back line and went to left wing alongside the midfielders.

No doubt someone else lost the ball but that cannot excuse all that succeeds it.

I did address it, if you read the posts.
You dont even mention the player that lost the ball doing something silly in a dangerous position.

As I said, Moreno is obviously under instruction to go forward, especially for counter attacks, he went.
Then a player made a big mistake(that doesnt get blamed, and folks on here doesnt even know who did it). And moreno gets blamed for doing what he was told to do. Like many full backs.

Harry Palmr

NukaCola wrote: »

Get Grujic and Origi on......tell Moreno to pack up his stuff and **** off.....

Basically! Shocking lack of everything in that first half. No zip, the middle and the attack are estranged, Origi will act as the focal point and his sheer speed will mean he offers something for the Arsenal back to be wary of.

Klavan has been excellent

ASOT

NukaCola wrote: »

Move Clyne to LB....Can goes to RB......should be better than whats happening now...

Why move can to rb he played lb for Bayer he would be grand there.

Fantastic goal from the magician.

noodler

dfx- wrote: »

Yeah, losing the ball outside your own box with defenders pushing out is the problem. Was it Lallana trying another 360 turn that got dispossessed? The pass was underhit probably too by Coutinho.

perhaps Moreno had too much faith in the midfielders to keep the ball.

This isn't five aside.

You don't get to just run forward the second your team wins possession deep. We had the ball for about 3 or 4 seconds, inside our own third and Moreno decided to go ahead of everybody else and towards the touchline.

There was just no real rationale for his decision to vacate the space so quickly and so recklessly.

We all acknowledge this silliness of Lalanna losing possession.

SlickRic

Origi on. Firmino off please.

whatawaster

For some balance, the goal was not Morenos fault.

We were counter attacking and he was breaking forward like he is supposed to. Lallana I think lost the ball. Moreno wasn't in the LB position, but he wasn't supposed to be.

Still, he's been hilariously bad

Pyjamarama

SlickRic wrote: »

Origi on. Firmino off please.

I'd keep Firmino on. Lalanna would be my sub.

noodler

enzo roco wrote: »

I did address it, if you read the posts.
You dont even mention the player that lost the ball doing something silly in a dangerous position.

As I said, Moreno is obviously under instruction to go forward, especially for counter attacks, he went.
Then a player made a big mistake(that doesnt get blamed, and folks on here doesnt even know who did it). And moreno gets blamed for doing what he was told to do. Like many full backs.

"He went"

That's all you have to say?

Well, apologists still around its clear to see.

Oranage2

Pool have been so bad it's disappointing but arsenal haven't been good either.

Ramsey has to stop thinking he's Pele reborn and get his act together. Walcott anonymous but scored, I guess. Elmanny not really that good but industrialist. Chambers on clown level like moteno.

J Mysterio

Moreno off, Can on.
Wijnaldum off, Stewart on.
Firmino off, Origi on.

Fromvert

Klopp still needs to do something to change this. Arsenal havnt had to be good to dominate this game, they're pressing well and Liverpool are panicking.

Origi for Lallana, drop Coutinho back and Firmino takes Coutinho's position

enzo roco

noodler wrote: »

We all acknowledge this silliness of Lalanna losing possession.

No, the liverpool fans dont, you are the first to say it. He made a big mistake. It was him. Lallana.

Liverpool did have the ball. It was a counter attack. If Lallana had of got away with a little turn and launched a super cross field pass, many would say, great running from Moreno.

Pyjamarama

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I'd keep Firmino on. Lalanna would be my sub.

Indeed, Firmino isn't a bad striker but playing as a lone striker isn't his cup of tea & see Origi to best effect Firmino should be kept on.

8-10

We look terrible but we're level. Very few positives to take away from the first half. Need to seriously up our game to stay in this. If we're still level at 60 mins then we've every chance. I wouldn't change anything at half time but haul off Lallana and Moreno for Can and Origi after a bit and then see how that goes

Livid with how bad we've been but the fact we're not losing is a massive positive that I hope they can use

NukaCola

Lalana has done nothing, he takes 4/5 touches every time and slows us way down......really disappointing all round though not just him.....

I'd get Origi on ASAP.....

mada999

we need a Mechanic Resurrection in the second half!!

who's gonna be our Jason Stateham ??

mansize

That was a pathetically soft free that Liverpiol scored from

enzo roco

noodler wrote: »

"He went"

That's all you have to say?

Well, apologists still around its clear to see.

"He went".
Is that all I said??????

And Im not an apologist. I could not give a fudge bout him. He made a balls of the penalty.
But the point I was originally making, was no one mentioned Lallana, and the big mistake he made. Everyone just jumped on moreno, as he is awful. But it was not his fault for the goal. It was Lallana

shamrock55

I'd actually forgotten that wijnaldum was playing

Osmosis Jones

mansize wrote: »

That was a pathetically soft free that Liverpiol scored from

Pathetic, bit hyperbolic no?

mansize

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Pathetic, bit hyperbolic no?

No.

Osmosis Jones

Wij and Henderson are both being hindered by their position, neither thrive from that deep. Surprised Grujic isn't on.

happyoutscan

mansize wrote: »

That was a pathetically soft free that Liverpiol scored from

Agreed but defender shouldn't have his hands on player.

noodler

enzo roco wrote: »

"He went".
Is that all I said??????

And Im not an apologist. I could not give a fudge bout him. He made a balls of the penalty.
But the point I was originally making, was no one mentioned Lallana, and the big mistake he made. Everyone just jumped on moreno, as he is awful. But it was not his fault for the goal. It was Lallana

Yeah ,too far.

I apologise.

J Mysterio

mansize wrote: »

No.

It was, but Oliver has given Arsenal a rake of frees.

mansize

happyoutscan wrote: »

Agreed but defender shouldn't have his hands on player.

Oh didn't realise that was a rule

Is it a new one?

emo72

Gas. All that preseason training, and Liverpool come out and play like that. Scratching my head here. Origi to come on and put them to the sword.

whatawaster

Ever wondered what Moreno would be like with the sun in his eyes? We're about to find out

J Mysterio

whatawaster wrote: »

Ever wondered what Moreno would be like with the sun in his eyes? We're about to find out

:pac:

Osmosis Jones

whatawaster wrote: »

Ever wondered what Moreno would be like with the sun in his eyes? We're about to find out

What difference would the sun make to a blind man?

GreNoLi

Jurgen Schwarzeneger on the sidelines.

Agent Coulson

Awesome goal

J Mysterio

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

What difference would the sun make to a blind man?

Bahaha :pac:

5starpool

Yes!!!!!!!!

Lallana

whatawaster

Great goal, so composed from Lallana

martyos121

Get in Cruyff Turner!!

mada999

oh my my my my my my

yes!!!

J Mysterio

Poor dopey Moreno

emo72

Lalanna was ****e first half. Funny

Osmosis Jones

That looked too easy, anyway lalalalalala

5starpool

Lovely pass by Coutinho in the build up to that.

Fromvert

Wooo

Pyjamarama

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I'd keep Firmino on. Lalanna would be my sub.

See lads when you were all saying take him off I had the faith.. well done Adam. What a goal.

SlickRic

Beautiful.

Genius from Coutinho with that pass.

Utter muck all game, but 2 moments for brilliance from the lad.

Knex*

Quality from Wijnaldum.

NukaCola

Good man Lallana.....first time too!!