AMD Zen Discussion Thread

Squidgy Black

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Nearly every X570 if not all has bios flashback. X470 only a couple of MB's did.

Only the ROG x570s from ASUS do, the others like the TUF and the Prime ones don't.

Homelander

The 3700X is a much better buy if you want real longevity. It has more cores/threads and the new consoles are based around a 3700X class CPU, so in a few years those extra cores/threads will make a difference.

The 3600 is a solid buy too, but won't have the same staying power. You are correct though, the 3800X and 3600X aren't worth spending extra on.

If you are getting a 3600 or 3700X though, there really isn't a huge need for X570 either. You could make the difference up there easily, EG, a B450M + 3700X, or even just a B550M. Unless of course you have a specific need for X570 platform.

ForestFire

Homelander wrote: »

The 3700X is a much better buy if you want real longevity. It has more cores/threads and the new consoles are based around a 3700X class CPU, so in a few years those extra cores/threads will make a difference.

The 3600 is a solid buy too, but won't have the same staying power. You are correct though, the 3800X and 3600X aren't worth spending extra on.

If you are getting a 3600 or 3700X though, there really isn't a huge need for X570 either. You could make the difference up there easily, EG, a B450M + 3700X, or even just a B550M. Unless of course you have a specific need for X570 platform.

The main reason I went with the X570 was for USB 3.2 front panel support:o....Might not be the best reason I know, but I did get it "Like New" with extra 20% discount during prime day so cheaper than a new B550 and the B550's did not have warehouse options or the 20% discount at the time. (Some B550's have usb3.2 but none I wanted)

But also it has better PCIE 4 support across the board and maybe better for future upgrades if needed?

I still have time to change, so might relook into this as well.

BloodBath

No need, 3600 leaves upgrading into 5700x as a good option down the line.

GHOST MGG

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Only the ROG x570s from ASUS do, the others like the TUF and the Prime ones don't.

MSI x570 tomahawk has bios flashback as well

Samuel T. Cogley

So torn between the 5600X and 5800X - really only game.

SickBoy

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

So torn between the 5600X and 5800X - really only game.

Has to be a 5950x then :pac:

MidlanderMan

Just pre-ordered a 5600x from Amazon. Dispatched by Amazon.
Hurray.

JoyPad

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

So torn between the 5600X and 5800X - really only game.

I'm going to get a 5900X, just to be safe. I hope this machine would last for the next 3-5 years.

EoinHef

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

So torn between the 5600X and 5800X - really only game.

So what ye really want is a 5700X:P

Is there any news on a possible 5700X?

Samuel T. Cogley

MidlanderMan wrote: »

Just pre-ordered a 5600x from Amazon. Dispatched by Amazon.
Hurray.

Me too!

JoyPad wrote: »

I'm going to get a 5900X, just to be safe. I hope this machine would last for the next 3-5 years.

I don't like that it uses two CCDs if I'm honest. That and I'm poor.

MidlanderMan

I'll be getting a 5800x if i can get an order. But the 5600x will do.granf if not.

Need to order a b550 motherboard now ðŸ™႒

JoyPad

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I don't like that it uses two CCDs if I'm honest.

Isn't two better than one?!

SickBoy

MidlanderMan wrote: »

Just pre-ordered a 5600x from Amazon. Dispatched by Amazon.
Hurray.

Link?

cromelex

SickBoy wrote: »

Link?

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KjPOFbBB13S49

(link not working at the moment, even when clicking from my orders)

I managed to grab one, 279.99 GBP sold directly by Amazon.

SickBoy

JoyPad wrote: »

Isn't two better than one?!

Not for latency therefore not for gaming.
It won't be terrible but it's better to have all cores on the same ccd to utilise the larger cache.

TitianGerm

SickBoy wrote: »

Link?

It's gone. Was posted on HUKD

GHOST MGG

I got the email from amazon that the 5800x was in stock at 10.18am this morning,it took me 10 seconds to click link and it was not in stock :-(

Homelander

People actually received 5600X's as early as last week. Saw a good few screenshots on OCUK I think it was. Apparently some retailer sent out a ton early.

Samuel T. Cogley

Hmmm... did I get done on the 5600X at £279.99 based on US MSRP or is it a VAT thing? Thinking it should be closer to £229.99.

Homelander

Nope, that's the expected price. 5600X at £289, 5800X at £429.

Samuel T. Cogley

Thanks Homelander!

JoyPad

Homelander wrote: »

Nope, that's the expected price. 5600X at £289, 5800X at £429.

Those are OC prices. CCL has them just a bit lower: 5600X at £279.99, 5800X at £419.99 and 5900X at £509.99 (if anyone cares about this one).

MidlanderMan

The 3600x on Amazon was £279.

BloodBath

I got my regular 3600 for £150 from Amazon.

MidlanderMan

BloodBath wrote: »

I got my regular 3600 for £150 from Amazon.

I paid £187 from CCL last October.

MidlanderMan

Anyone know if there's any B450 boards that are zen 3 ready now (with a bios flash obviously).?

Samuel T. Cogley

And Dispatched!

Squidgy Black

MidlanderMan wrote: »

Anyone know if there's any B450 boards that are zen 3 ready now (with a bios flash obviously).?

Think the b450 and x470 bios aren't being released until January, at least that was the last update I saw.

.G.

Were all sites selling these early? No one is now. Want a 5900x myself.