Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Jayop

Rubber_Soul wrote: »

If you can't report and ignore them then that says more about you than them.

Why are you in here wumming? What does it matter to you what's posted in here?

Adamocovic

gosplan wrote: »

I don't think Rooney is done but he needs to be treated like every other player now.

He's out of the first team. He needs to perform to get his place back.

Completely agree, I'd argue he is being treated like others, he hasn't been great and he's on the bench, now he has the cup/europe to try win a spot back if he can.

Also anyone know when was the last time we scored 4 goals in the first half? haha

Flint Fredstone

Cypher_sounds

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Whatever about dropping Rooney, still think the balance of the side is way off. Need to swap mata for carrick/Schneiderlin.

Glad you were wrong as you are i'd imagine.

ElChe32

Great way to answer a few critics. Still not sure Jesse's role out there, he seems to be forcing his play. Pogba has had a great game, I like the Herrera midfield partnership.

jaykay74

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Saying one of the club's greatest players should be sent a glue factory is just the height of disrespect. Not to mention outrageously childish and immature.

I agree, Rooney played his part so far.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Amazing performance! Rooney should just be a sub for Ibra when we need to rotate. Wonder when we last scored 4 goals in first half!!

Potential Underachiever

Looks like the Einsteins were right saying to drop Rooney and Fellaini.

ScummyMan

Ander Herrera is fcuking class.

Rubber_Soul

Jayop wrote: »

Why are you in here wumming? What does it matter to you what's posted in here?

I'm a Utd supporter. Well done proving my point about our delicate fans on here.

Manutd_4life

Lads, we are destroying the champions!!!

Let's talk about that instead of Rooney. I swear people only like to look at the negatives

deaddonkey15

Quandary wrote: »

We've scored 2 goals from corners. If I remember accurately, up until now Rooney has been taking our corners and they haven't been exactly producing goals.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Please note Rooney takes corners

I agree it's only 1 game

We need ten+ of him out of the team

Corners are a low percentage return. What's happening today is quite bizarre. There's nothing exceptional about our corners, Leicester are just a shambles at defending them.

Quandary

Herrera has had a great game. I really hope he can cement a place in the first 11. He has a brilliant attitude. Pogba has also been quality and Blind excellent too.

We also need to realise that Leicester are completely different and weaker team since they lost Kante. Plenty average teams have rattled in a few against this Leicester side.

That being said, it's great to not be playing sh1t

jaykay74

Did Utd score 4 first half goals in all the first halves together before Christmas in the league last season ?

edgecutter

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Saying one of the club's greatest players should be sent a glue factory is just the height of disrespect. Not to mention outrageously childish and immature.

He is having a laugh, sure your posts have been a wind up defending Rooney.

Vertigo100

I love Juan Mata. An outstanding player when played in correct position with pace around him.

Kerrydude1981

ScummyMan wrote: »

Ander Herrera is fcuking class.

I think he should made vice captain,

Great player,very honest and gives it everything

TheDoc

Be too extreme to say Rooney not here is the reason for this. It's one reasons, by the entire team just play quicker and better and Leicester a mess

edgecutter

TheDoc wrote: »

Be too extreme to say Rooney not here is the reason for this. It's one reasons, by the entire team just play quicker and better and Leicester a mess

Nah, we're missing Rooney








...says Claudio Ranieri

Manutd_4life

Mata finally playing in his best position and look at the return

Kerrydude1981

Keep the foot on the throttle now in the second half

Headshot

ScummyMan wrote: »

Ander Herrera is fcuking class.

Iv said it before and ill say it again.

Should be one of the first names on the starting list

Adamocovic

TheDoc wrote: »

Be too extreme to say Rooney not here is the reason for this. It's one reasons, by the entire team just play quicker and better and Leicester a mess

Agree. Rooney being out has helped with the pace of our attack, no question there. The fluid and movement has been very impressive. At the same time Leicester have been awful.

Looking forward to second half.

deaddonkey15

edgecutter wrote: »

He is having a laugh, sure your posts have been a wind up defending Rooney.

No they've just been reasonable and objective.

Jayop

Christ almighty we're 4 up at half time and the thread is still hand wringing about Rooney. Get over it.

Mr.Prodston

I like the part where they did the goals

Polo_Mint

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Amazing performance! Rooney should just be a sub for Ibra when we need to rotate. Wonder when we last scored 4 goals in first half!!

SkySports must be reading this thread

Against Arsenal 2001

Polo_Mint

Blind has been excellent today

PhlegmyMoses

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

It's only 1 game. 3 of our goals have been from set pieces.Most of these players started against Feyenoord and lost.

This is the worst part about nailing your colours to the mast. You can only enjoy things when they conform to your opinions. I think Rooney was right to be dropped. Had he played and we were 4 up I'd be equally as happy. We haven't done something like this in years. Savour it.

deaddonkey15

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Corners are a low percentage return. What's happening today is quite bizarre. There's nothing exceptional about our corners, Leicester are just a shambles at defending them.

Outside of the corners

United's movement has been so much quicker

Ibra has been doing the job Rooney is supposed to be doing about 100 times better, he can drop in and play neat balls forward and he's also in the penalty area when he should be

He's not unintentionally occupying space in midfield and getting in the way like Rooney

Pogba is now playing further forward and has started to show why he was purchased

Rashford dragging the defence all over the shop with his runs. Mata, ibra, Pogba all picking him out

Mata playing 1-2s outside the box

Herrera doing a great job as DM

Blind having a stormer

Early days but yeah, madness to start Rooney next PL match

KombuchaMshroom

What a half. Football has been the best we've played in years, certainly since the first goal went in.
I've been saying for a long time Blind should be on corners, they've been quality. There's proper pace on them, not these floated ones we've been so used to.

Almost feel for the lads who've been in the pro Rooney camp. Obviously it's only 1 game, but the improvement in standard of play in the final 3rd has been so clear to see.
I do think Herrara's quickness on the ball over Fellaini does help that a little, but he isn't really involved in the final 3rd.
That beautiful Mata goal though simply wouldn't happen with Rooney on the pitch. He would have taken the ball and looked to find one of the full backs with a long ball.

Anyway, bring on the 2nd half!!!

Son Of A Vidic

That's more like the United of old, smelling blood and putting a team to the sword. The first of many I hope.

Adamocovic

I know it's just one game but playing fast fluid football and scoring goals at will?

Jayop

What has happened to the Leicester defense? Last year they were awesome.

Quandary

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Corners are a low percentage return. What's happening today is quite bizarre. There's nothing exceptional about our corners, Leicester are just a shambles at defending them.

Whatever about Leicester defending poorly, If you can't even acknowledge that Blind takes more effective corners than Rooney then there is no point continuing a back and forth. Also, for what it's worth, I'm not a complete Rooney hater. I think he has a place in the squad as a striker but right now he is quite a bit down the pecking order.

Today's selection is still not quite right but there are a few players out there who are clearly justifying their place in the team. Herrera, Rashford and Mata - all of whom have been sitting on the bench this season to accommodate Rooney in some shape or form in various games.

Mars Bar

:eek:

roosterman71

I love when Mata plays. He seems to be so calm and tricky on the ball. And he's much more dangerous there in the middle than when he's cutting in from the right.

Cypher_sounds

I don't really agree with people saying Leicester were awful.

We looked dodgy and on the back foot before our first goal and they were playing very well, it's just that we have turned them into sh!t.

How Soon Is Now

I just wonder how do you drop Blind back to the bench for shaw after that. Think he should be there somewhere.

TheDoc

Btw that Ibra moment taking the ball down from high and killing it on his foot. Need that gif in my life

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

What has happened to the Leicester defense? Last year they were awesome.

Much easier defend corners when you can hang off people

Jayop

The non corner goal and the almost Ibra goal were the best play we've done in ages.

Jayop

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Much easier defend corners when you can hang off people

Aye that's true.

deaddonkey15

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

This is the worst part about nailing your colours to the mast. You can only enjoy things when they conform to your opinions. I think Rooney was right to be dropped. Had he played and we were 4 up I'd be equally as happy. We haven't done something like this in years. Savour it.

I think he was right to be dropped too and was glad he was. I'm just not going to get carried away with 1 first half performance against a side that haven't really been at the races themselves this season.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Outside of the corners

United's moment has so much been quicker

Ibra has been doing the job Rooney is supposed to be doing about 100 times better, he can drop in and play neat balls forward and he's also in the penalty area when he should be

He's not unintentionally occupying space in midfield and getting in the way like Rooney

Pogba is now playing further forward and has started to show why he was purchased

Rashford dragging the defence all over the shop with his runs. Mata, ones, Pogba all picking him out

Mata playing 1-2s outside the box

Herrera doing a great job as DM

Blind having a stormer

Early days but yeah, madness to start Rooney next PL match

I agree with most of that, we've been excellent and Rooney shouldn't start the next league game. Maybe he can play himself back into form in the Europa League and league cup. I would like to see more goals from play today however. Might be no harm to bring Rooney on early in the second half for Ibrahimovic perhaps. A rest for Ibrahimovich, and perhaps Rooney could get a goal or two to get his confidence back up.

LuckyGent88

Looks like damage limitation for Leicester with those changes.

Hopefully we can lift the tempo again and get another goal or two.

Mars Bar

It does. Are you in the new site?

Adamocovic

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

I don't really agree with people saying Leicester were awful.

We looked dodgy and on the back foot before our first goal and they were playing very well, it's just that we have turned them into sh!t.

As good as we have played since the goal Leicester have looked unstable in defense and haven't handle the pace at all.

Any team conceding 3 goals from set pieces before half time would be considered a defensive failure and hence why many are saying awful. Especially a team who had such a good reputation at defending last season.

But we have been brilliant too which has obviously led to the scoreline, it has just been helped by Leicester too.

Hopefully we go on to kick a few more in :P

Jayop

Zlatan for the big arrogant git he's supposed to be always acknowledges his mistakes or another player doing something well.

deaddonkey15

Quandary wrote: »

Whatever about Leicester defending poorly, If you can't even acknowledge that Blind takes more effective corners than Rooney then there is no point continuing a back and forth. Also, for what it's worth, I'm not a complete Rooney hater. I think he has a place in the squad as a striker but right now he is quite a bit down the pecking order.

There's no denying they've been effective today. But as I said already, most corners won't result in a goal. The return we're getting from our corners today is quite uncommon. The ball in for Smalling's goal was similar to Rooney's cross to Ibrahimovich against Southampton. He has it in his locker to put those kinds of balls into the box from corners and crosses. Most crosses/corners from any player won't result in a goal however, we're just fortunate to have such a high return today.

Jayop

Herrera is class and we actually have off the ball movement.