Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

StringerBell

Anybody notice a change in Pep and Jose behaviour to each other? They seem much more cordial, friendly even, these days.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Would like to see more of that Herrera, Pogba, Carrick midfield - I think it is balanced well. Or bring Schneiderlin in for Carrick. We need to provide a platform and some freedom to Pogba and Herrera, imo.

Would also like to see more of Ibra on the bench. Absolutely rubbish again last night. Put Rooney or Martial up front instead (or Rashford, with martial taking the wide spot from Rashford)

Only true for first half
Not true for second half

Mitch Connor

eagle eye wrote: »

You are normally pretty good at going over what happened in a game but you seen a different game to me last night. I thought Ibra was excellent doing an old fashioned centre forwards job, actually very similar to what Drogba did for Chelsea in his first couple of years there under Mourinho.

Thought his passing, control and finishing were terrible. Was in the right positions, where I would want him to be, but screwed up or did little of note way too often.

Was very good on the goal and slipped a lovely pass into Rashford for a chance he hesitated on, but thought his use of the ball was very poor quite a lot last night.

Only had the game on the laptop though and was watching tv with the other half at the same time so maybe I missed more of his good play and was overly frustrated by his poor play when it did occur - in addition to him being fairly poor in previous games.

Mitch Connor

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Only true for first half
Not true for second half

fair enough - will have to give the second half a more concentrated look.

KH25

I thought Ibra and Pogba both stepped up in the second half. More intensity and effort from them. Ibra was weak in terms of passing but I thought his ball control and ability to hold players off was very good in the second half. More required but it was good to see.

Julez

Pogba and Ibra gave the ball away too much in my opinion, could both do with doing the simple pass from time to time.

Hococop

StringerBell wrote: »

Anybody notice a change in Pep and Jose behaviour to each other? They seem much more cordial, friendly even, these days.

Maybe the Spanish media and fans are way more bloodthirsty it things go bad?

Mitch Connor

Hococop wrote: »

Maybe the Spanish media and fans are way more bloodthirsty it things go bad?

Mourinho stated in the summer that he couldn't battle Pep in the same way he did in Spain, because in England it isn't a 1vs1 (Barca vs Real) situation (At. Madrid have changed that now).

Maybe he was telling the truth and his battles with Pep before were mindgames. Maybe the more friendly atmosphere now is BS and will change if United and City are directly competing for trophies in a couple of months.

bangkok

TheDoc wrote: »

Like I said yesterday he could have played it two ways, and going with the strong team he made it an important game and a game he couldn't lose. Deserves some credit for doing that, as it could have been easier to field a weaker team and have the excuse ready.

Performance was pretty ok. Ibrahimovic was pretty poor but have to say I've been surprised by his work ethic. He keeps going, doesn't hide and tries to play his way back into a game where he's poor. He had some lovely little touches and sliced open their defence a few times. Although missed a sitter and first half he was a bit all over the place. Can appreciate why he is being persisted with as opposed to say when Rooney was in his rut.

Pogba again, flashes of what will hopefully come, flashes of why he is in a rut. A bit too much flicks and trying to replicate his Adidas ad. He's losing possesion a lot, needs to get back to basics and play his way back into confident form.

Herrera has just solidified himself as one of the first names on the teamsheet. Dogged, aggressive and harrying people while being good in possesion. Those little neat turns he does under pressure are so good. His understanding and play with Mata is also clearly something to harness. The two of them are just always on the same wavelength.

Was happy for Rojo. He has had a torrid time. By all accounts he's a likeable person with a good work ethic that has just had a rubbish time with injuries and consistency. Was a bit wasteful in possesion but thought he was showing glimpses of that no sense, aggressive style of defending. Don't think I recall him putting a foot wrong, so happy for him and hopefully a confidence builder for him.

Shaw was a massive concern. Navas is a one trick pony and an utterly underwhelming winger for a club like City. That he was getting roasted for pace so consistently was such a massive worry. I'm still yet to be convinced by Shaw that he was money well spent. I suppose I need to be more patient with him, but his pace was supposed to be his coverup for his clear defensive defencies and lapses. That was massively concerning to see him get roasted like that.
Mata with another good performance. Really does seem to delivery in big games.

Outside of that nothing really major. Rashford starting to look less and less influencial, one good run from memory but its going to be hard being a winger under Mourinho and I tend to just dislike strikers being shoehorned out wide.

West Ham at home you'd be confident of picking up a win, and I guess from the team selection last night this is probably a trophy worth going for in Mourinhos mind. A trophy is never to be sniffed at, although the League Cup is never anything to go mental about. But might just put a bit of faith into the manager and methods if a trophy arrives(from players and fans).

Atmosphere came across really well on TV. Was good to see 74k+ for a cup game. Be nice if the atmosphere was like that more often. Still feel OT is way too flat.
A chance for the team to now change the narrative and mood a bit. Potential to go 4 wins on the spin before Arsenal

All of that and you didn't have it in you to say Carrick played well..

paulbok

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jesus, what he said was completely innocuous. Thats ridiculous.

Squad picture 2016



Better quality but too big to embed without killing the site:
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Jebus Christ, they put Phil Jones up on the bench at the back, were they trying to kill him? :eek:

TheDoc

bangkok wrote: »

All of that and you didn't have it in you to say Carrick played well..

I don't believe Carrick did anything to say, convince me (or Mourinho imo) that he should be in the team for league matches or big games.

Carrick has quickly become a player that improves the longer he is out of the team.

It's a merry dance we and you can keep having, but neither of us are going to concede so why bother?

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jesus, what he said was completely innocuous. Thats ridiculous.

Squad picture 2016



Better quality but too big to embed without killing the site:
http://www.manutd.com/~/media/655736795C7B48BCB471DAB754C58DA2.ashx?w=2560&h=1600

Where is the F.A. Cup?

TheDoc

Jesus anyone see Moyes in his post match interview. That looks a career quickly coming to an end

Cantona's Collars

Hococop wrote: »

Maybe the Spanish media and fans are way more bloodthirsty it things go bad?

City fans not to pleased that Pep said he was happy after the game.BTW his 'reserve' side cost just shy of £241 million for those who want to say we just beat their B team.
Between the EPL and ECL, City have just 3 points from an available 15.

jayo26

TheDoc wrote: »

I don't believe Carrick did anything to say, convince me (or Mourinho imo) that he should be in the team for league matches or big games.

Carrick has quickly become a player that improves the longer he is out of the team.

It's a merry dance we and you can keep having, but neither of us are going to concede so why bother?

See that's the thing Carrick doesn't need to do anything and that's what we need. We need him to just sit deep and pass the ball forward or break up some attacks and fill space that stops the opposition passing balls in to the forwards between the center back.

Compare it to having fellaini in there and you have fellaini driving forward with the ball meeting a opposition player and turning around and passing ball back or else been caught forward with the other two more attacking midified players having to run back to fill the gap he left behind.

Carrick didn't stand out last night but he still passed forward and when we were defending he was there to force play wide or drop deep into the box thats all we need and leave the attacking for the front four or five.

It's not blowing Carrick up he is just the most disaplind defensive type midfielder we have and that's hat we need.

Cookie_Dough

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jesus, what he said was completely innocuous. Thats ridiculous.

Squad picture 2016



Better quality but too big to embed without killing the site:
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The lads in the front row are flashing a fair bit of leg/thigh!! :eek:

TheDoc

TheDoc wrote: »

Jesus anyone see Moyes in his post match interview. That looks a career quickly coming to an end

He looks shook as **** tbh

https://twitter.com/BeardedRedDevil/status/791567396553134081

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https://twitter.com/footyawayday/status/791407225164140544

Liam McPoyle

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/footyawayday/status/791407225164140544

Some damage for 3 people and a pensioner.

jayo26

They didn't want to pee sure it wasn't one of the top priority for them.

Unearthly

They can't piss on target either

secman

Always knew there were only piss artists.

RobertKK

The people who damaged the urinals must be really IQ challenged given Man City will have to pay for the damage and it only cost their own club, not United.
Some people are unfortunate to be so stupid.

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I do feel sorry for him. Seems like a decent guy in a downward spiral.

TheDoc

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/footyawayday/status/791407225164140544

Thought this was a representation of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi.

Crumbling into pieces spraying piss

Jayop

Delighted to get that win last night. I'm on holidays and I remember when we played city in the league Cup semi final a few years back I was on holiday too so the omens were bad. Not the greatest performance of all time and had their young striker scored that early chance it.moght have been a difficult night.

Also Mata is love.

jayo26

Be like patrice because he is cool

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMEnILGjekV/

TitianGerm

RobertKK wrote: »

The people who damaged the urinals must be really IQ challenged given Man City will have to pay for the damage and it only cost their own club, not United.
Some people are unfortunate to be so stupid.

Are they not sinks?

Jayop

Bobby pisses in the sink so often he doesn't see a difference any more.

beno619

jayo26 wrote: »

Compare it to having fellaini in there and you have fellaini driving forward with the ball meeting a opposition player and turning around and passing ball back or else been caught forward with the other two more attacking midified players having to run back to fill the gap he left behind.

Bit unfair on Fel, he did there job asked if him by Mourinho at Chelsea.

He's been great playing a proper midfield role this season.

jayo26

beno619 wrote: »

Bit unfair on Fel, he did there job asked if him by Mourinho at Chelsea.

He's been great playing a proper midfield role this season.

I think fel has been OK too but mostly when we are under the cosh and been attacked he is good at getting himself about and breaking stuff up but when we are looking to play anything advanced he is playing backward or else up the field.

I know I'm crap at explaining it but basically fel has his role I get that but if we want to give pogba a free role to get forward as much as he can well fel ain't the partner for him in midfield because he will be up there beside him more often then not and midfield is exposed.

bangkok

beno619 wrote: »

Bit unfair on Fel, he did there job asked if him by Mourinho at Chelsea.

He's been great playing a proper midfield role this season.

Great?!

Trigger

The_Kew_Tour

Why would you touch Urinals anyway. I mean the smell and all that. Write Augueroooo on the wall or something.

Liam McPoyle

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Why would you touch Urinals anyway. I mean the smell and all that. Write Augueroooo on the wall or something.

I think a prerequisite of writing something is to actually be literate.

Its pretty clear that the kind of mouth breathers that do stuff like this are not Mastermind candidates.

Herrera would make a good captain

On the match at the weekend I don't think it's televised

Any dodgy channels got it?

jayo26

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Herrera would make a good captain

On the match at the weekend I don't think it's televised

Any dodgy channels got it?

It's on sky sports 5 Ireland at 3 o clock.

jayo26

jayo26 wrote: »

It's on sky sports 5 Ireland at 3 o clock.

you cant get much more dodgy than sky tbf

jayo26

[Deleted User] wrote: »

you cant get much more dodgy than sky tbf

It will be bein sports with Richard and Andy for me nobody does it better.

dundalkfc10

jayo26 wrote: »

It will be bein sports with Richard and Andy for me nobody does it better.

Mute is better than any commentary

Headshot

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Mute is better than any commentary

I wish there was no commentary in matches, I've watched a Superclásico match years ago (Boca v River Plate) and it was so unreal just to listen to the crowds chanting and the sound affects on the field

sReq | uTeK

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Herrera would make a good captain

On the match at the weekend I don't think it's televised

Any dodgy channels got it?

google ultimatemania.rocks

Cantona's Collars

Jose Mourinho isn’t the only Manchester United employee living a strange existence in the city’s Lowry Hotel.

Every morning, Henrikh Mkhitaryan leaves his five-star accommodation early and is the first player to arrive at United’s Carrington headquarters, preferring to eat breakfast at the training ground rather than his hotel.

A speaker of six languages, Mkhitaryan is friendly and articulate. Club staff describe him as ‘an absolute gentleman’ around the place.

The trouble is, Mourinho doesn’t seem quite so taken with the player United signed from Borussia Dortmund for £26.3million in the summer.

But United fans have been left bemused by Mkhitaryan’s treatment, with some comparing it to Mourinho’s handling of Bastian Schweinsteiger.

There is a key difference here. The United manager signed Mkhitaryan, he did not inherit him from Louis van Gaal.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3879812/The-mysterious-case-Henrikh-Mkhitaryan-Manchester-United-s-26-3m-signing-stuck-stands-Jose-Mourinho-unconvinced.html#ixzz4OKmRUNpY
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Just for you Bangkok,2 Fellainis.:P

J. Marston

If HM doesn't feature on Saturday, he's finished here and it'll be the weirdest transfer flop ever.

Rayne Wooney

Almost 7 weeks since Mkhitaryan had a game, and his last input was being hauled off after a very poor half against City.

If he doesn't feature Saturday I'd imagine he's finished, bizarre really.

The_Kew_Tour

#TheDortmundCurse

Honestly, it is bizarre. But so has the past 4 seasons

https://twitter.com/SemperFiUnited/status/791867310546030592

Liam McPoyle

Must win game tomorrow.

Burnley are no pushovers but hopefully home advantage will help.

Go at them from the get go like we did against Leicester and hopefully over run them by half time.