Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

mewe

On a sidenote about other people who haven't posted on this thread in ages, Mikeyt's articles on balls.ie are always a joy to read.

Lord TSC

Game is at six tomorrow, yeah?

Jayop

Lord TSC wrote: »

Game is at six tomorrow, yeah?

Says so on the Beeb

KH25

scudzilla wrote: »

Have him back in a heartbeat, he knew what our club was/is all about, sacrilege he was sold for what, 10mill? My hatred for the dutch idiot stemmed from that sale

Stupid decision. I hated the way Moyes basically let him rot on the bench too only bringing him on when he was desperate.

mewe

mewe wrote: »

Nah he's too bitter to post on this thread lately. I'll get me coat and close the door on the way out.

Bleating Lamb

Watched highlights of games on TV last night,Griezeman took his two goals really well. Probably would be very difficult to prize him away from Athletico next summer but would love to see us try anyway.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Predictions tonight? Do we qualify if we win?

The_Kew_Tour

Draw 1-1

jayo26

Van Persie to score the only goal and united to win 0-1

bangkok

Hopefully a nice win tonight with plenty of chances created. Our best chance of champions league football next season is winning the Europa league

Fox Hound

bangkok wrote: »

Hopefully a nice win tonight with plenty of chances created. Our best chance of champions league football next season is winning the Europa league

I tottaly agree with This,

On a separate note did any of you see this article by dunphy??... the man is nuts " Eddie Howe should get the united job"?? madness!!
Dunphy article

TheDoc

bangkok wrote: »

Hopefully a nice win tonight with plenty of chances created. Our best chance of champions league football next season is winning the Europa league

Your writing us off ?

jayo26

Joyce takes over at Wigan this morning I really hope he does well he has served united really well over the years and you never know miracles happen we may see him back at some point.in a higher capacity.

bangkok

TheDoc wrote: »

Your writing us off ?

Not altogether but can't see us finishing ahead of city arsenal or Liverpool and perhaps even Chelsea. We will do very well now to finish 4th

bangkok

Only talking about depay yesterday, I just noticed he didn't make the 21 man squad for tonight's game. Surely that is the end of him at United now?

duffman13

bangkok wrote: »

Only talking about depay yesterday, I just noticed he didn't make the 21 man squad for tonight's game. Surely that is the end of him at United now?

I don't think he is far off being out the door but he came on against Burnley so probably not the end just yet

crkball6

Raggy newspapers suggesting he didn't perform in training as well as others and team mates "surprised" he came on against Burnley.

bangkok

duffman13 wrote: »

I don't think he is far off being out the door but he came on against Burnley so probably not the end just yet

Maybe trying to put him in the shop window same as bastian back in first team. Would like to see depay going on loan somewhere in jan

0gac3yjefb5sv7

bangkok wrote: »

Not altogether but can't see us finishing ahead of city arsenal or Liverpool and perhaps even Chelsea. We will do very well now to finish 4th

Ah jaysus, we are into top 4 talk already. At least wait until after Christmas for that depressing ****. In the meantime, let's target the top 1 spot.:P

Rayne Wooney

I hope we don't play a strong team, we need to beat Swansea.

RobertKK

Memphis will be sold next summer, freeing up the number 7 for Griezmann.

We need a good start to November and get a bit of form going. There are negatives and positives from recent games.
We are suffering from a problem we have suffered for years at this stage - since the start of the Moyes and Van Gaal adventures - not scoring enough goals.
Hopefully we turn this around as we still have everything to play for. The league or top 4 is not won or lost by November 1st, but we are in a part of the season where we need to stay in touch and get results.
Last year we went briefly top of the league in October, but then when we needed momentum we lost it.
We will know a lot by January 2nd where we really stand, but the business part of the domestic season really starts now.
The results have to come, we can't afford more Burnley type games where we create so many chances to win and come away with one point.

bennyineire

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Ah jaysus, we are into top 4 talk already. At least wait until after Christmas for that depressing ****. In the meantime, let's target the top 1 spot.:P

LOL

J. Marston

Mourinho not a big fan of selfies...

paulbok

RobertKK wrote: »

Memphis will be sold next summer, freeing up the number 7 for Griezmann.

Would he not get the freed up no 10 shirt?

paulbok

J. Marston wrote: »

Mourinho not a big fan of selfies...

Don't know about selfies but he doesn't appear to be a fan of photos?:p

Toobz

J. Marston wrote: »

Mourinho not a big fan of selfies...

it wasn't a time to be taking selfies while 70,000 or so fans are stressing around them.

I know conte is having joy from it but I always thought we would have benefited from 3-5-2 with the width provided from shaw and val. front two of martial and rashford would be ridiculous to deal with if they can gel.

Blind between smalling and bailly as the distributor and a midfield of Herrera, pogba and mata at no 10.

Never gonna see it but would think it would be effective at ripping apart the teams set up to frustrate us.

The_Kew_Tour

We ripped Burnley apart at weekend just could not score

jayo26

Jaysus we nearly killed lvg for daring to try 352. As most other people have said I'm happy with the performances apart from 1 or two games we have been tons better then past 3 years.

The players are laying for the manager and just need to get the shooting boots on.

sky88

jayo26 wrote: »

Jaysus we nearly killed lvg for daring to try 352. As most other people have said I'm happy with the performances apart from 1 or two games we have been tons better then past 3 years.

The players are laying for the manager and just need to get the shooting boots on.

Now im not sure that 352 would work and it certainly didnt work for LVG but i think the problem he had was it was a defensive 352 and was all about possession. Contes version seems a high pressing more attacking version.

think more of a 4312, 442 diamond which are pretty much the same formation anyway to or 433 would suit the players best.

Jayop

For one thing we rarely have 3 fit cbs so that's a problem.

I'm really hoping for more of the same tonight. We proved on Saturday that we're more than capable of complely nullifying a team by attacking them constantly and freak misses and saves aside we'd have won at a canter.

TheDoc

Before naming his squad, Deschamps offered the following warning to the 20-year-old.

“Jose Mourinho and I expect more from Martial,” said the manager. “It’s up to him to rediscover his form.”

Martial dropped from French squad.

Iused2likebusts

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We ripped Burnley apart at weekend just could not score

The game panned out much the same as all of Burnley's away games. Chance after chance for the home team and Burnley offering nothing in attack. I said before the game I'd be shocked if utd didn't win by a couple of goals and they way the game worked out it should have ended like all of Burnley's other away games with a comprehensive defeat. I don't think you can learn anything from the game. Those being negative it was a good performance and ended being one of those freak outcomes when the ball just won't go in and the opposition keeper has a great game. Those taking a positive from it the game was much the same as Burnley's away games at Leicester, Chelsea and Southampton total one way traffic. Burnley at home are a different story and the games against Liverpool and arsenal and Watford as it was on sky are the times most on here may have seen them.

Cantona's Collars

jayo26

Basically what your saying zerks is our taking of chances is dirt

Jayop

jayo26 wrote: »

Basically what your saying zerks is our taking of chances is dirt

13 goals in 10 games is fairly pathetic. One of those was a pen too.

Cookie_Dough

zerks wrote: »

jayo26 wrote: »

Basically what your saying zerks is our taking of chances is dirt

That and the shot accuracy implies that we couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.

I wonder how much Pogba and Rojo blasting aimless shots into row z from outside the box is accounting for the low % of shot accuracy.

jayo26

Cookie_Dough wrote: »

That and the shot accuracy implies that we couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.

I wonder how much Pogba and Rojo blasting aimless shots into row z from outside the box is accounting for the low % of shot accuracy.

Pogba aint gonna change that's his game always has been but at least he has a chance of finishing but rojo has never came close.

VW 1

jayo26 wrote:

Pogba aint gonna change that's his game always has been but at least he has a chance of finishing but rojo has never came close.

Didn't the keeper tip one over the bar from him from 30 yards or so in the game v Burnley?

Is the game tonight on TV?

jayo26

VW 1 wrote: »

Didn't the keeper tip one over the bar from him from 30 yards or so in the game v Burnley?

Is the game tonight on TV?

Yhh its on bt I donno about itv and all

Trigger

Think Eir Sport 2 is the only other one on the TV

Trigger

Schneiderlin starting and Mhkitaryan on the bench.. hope he sees some minutes

TheDoc

Jayop wrote: »

13 goals in 10 games is fairly pathetic. One of those was a pen too.

We scored one goal in October......one

Also I get what Zerks is doing/trying but that is kind of misleading. You'd maybe want the numbers broken per game to get a better view of who is consistent etc.

Scoring goals evidently is the clear problem. City especially have hounded out a few early drubbings scoring 3's and 4's, as have Arsenal (I think)

Our numbers I'd imagine are pretty inflated from the Stoke and Burnley games. Didn't we have like pathetic numbers from Liverpool + Chelsea?

Anyway, October pretty much a write off. Hopefully the team can start scoring.

I agree with the general consensus it's not far away, just need to start burying chances.

xtal191

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/794218838359506944

ShaneU

Any team with Mata benched is a bad team

Liam O

Be very happy with that team if not for Schneiderlin and Herrera together. Guess it's their chance to show they're not incompetent together all the time...

TheDoc

Interesting lineup. Could be Schneiderlan anchoring alone in a 4-3-3 ?

I'm not seeing the benefit of Rashford playing. He looks like his flagging a bit and we could be doing a Martial again, stupidly relying on a kid when we really shouldn't. It's gone from the measured approach Jose had with Rashford at the start to including him non stop.

I'm always weary of overplaying young players developing. A number of options to start there for him and it is a good shout to give him a rest.

Hopefully its an attempt to win the game in the first half and replace him with Henrik second half.

Rooney could do with a good showing. Goal would be great, but just some semblance of what Zlatan is doing in general play would be nice. Wouldn't hurt for Zlatan to feel a bit of pressure/competition for his place.

Kerrydude1981

At least Mickey made the bench,

Holy Morgan Schniederlin Batman!

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Great line up. Hopefully Rooney can get a few.

Quandary

Hoping Schneiderlin can put in a big performance. It would be brilliant to see him get back to his Southampton form.