Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Hococop

TheDoc wrote: »

Ludicrous team selection. Absolutely ludicrous.

Rivals drop points and with our own history of not having the bottle to capitalise, we pick THAT team.

Hererra completely ommited? Carrick and Rooney starting? Shaw not in squad? Memphis at this stage gone in January.

Anything less then a win and there could well be an implosion. What a risky squad for this game

Herrera suspended

Trigger

Blatter wrote: »

Looks like he's trying a diamond?

Definitely looks like a Diamond to me with Young and Darmian having the stamina to get up and down the pitch.

bucketybuck

limnam wrote: »

No excuses today for Jose, this one is definitely on him should it go wrong.

Its interesting though. There are reports that behind the scenes there are some serious issues relating to certain players attitudes, and if thats the case then the manager should be supported when he decides to drop them and go with players he trusts.

But when it finally happens (if that is what is happening) then he gets a barrage of criticism about the lineup. How can he win?

The lineup seems worrying at first glance, but look deeper and I can sorta see the decisions that have led to it. Rashford needed to come out, Martial has been poor, Shaw needed dropping, injuries did for the defence and Jose had already lamented two LB's playing in the center so thats why Jones is in. Herrera is missing, Mikitarian has clear problems, that just leaves Schneiderlin and Depay and I doubt many really wanted them playing anyway.

Its not a great lineup but it hasn't come out of nowhere, it just seems like the end result of too many players not doing their jobs. Hopefully it works out.

TheDoc

Hococop wrote: »

Herrera suspended

Oh yeah, ah duh.

Really thought they would have appealed that stupid second booking.

LuckyGent88

Head scratching team selection. I really hope he hasn't just banished mikytarian. He is a phenomenal player and took time to adjust in Dortmund so might be the same in England. Don't mind shaw being dropped as I think he is unfit and playing poorly.
Regardless of the team we really should be beating this poor Swansea side.

duffman13

TheDoc wrote: »

Oh yeah, ah duh.

Really thought they would have appealed that stupid second booking.

Can't you appeal a booking? Thought you could only appeal a straight red card but open to correction

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

Oh yeah, ah duh.

Really thought they would have appealed that stupid second booking.

You can't appeal a booking, apart from mistaken identity, i think.

limnam

TheDoc wrote: »

Oh yeah, ah duh.

Really thought they would have appealed that stupid second booking.

You can't appeal a second yellow.

He could only appeal if it was a straight red

Trigger

Can't appeal a yellow card offence, the appeal process is only for straight red cards

TheDoc

bucketybuck wrote: »

Its interesting though. There are reports that behind the scenes there are some serious issues relating to certain players attitudes, and if thats the case then the manager should be supported when he decides to drop them and go with players he trusts.

But when it finally happens (if that is what is happening) then he gets a barrage of criticism about the lineup. How can he win?

Revelation, manager just actually says it.

If a manager comes out at a press conference and says "this guys attitude stinks" then EVERYONE will back the manager and the player will be gonzo from the club with no tears, or will need to seriously turn it around.

I really never get the whole cloak and dagger stuff, its really silly. If managers were more forthright with fans, they would get a lot more patience and sympathy.

Instead its behind the scenes stuff and fans treated like they are knuckle draggers. It's so annoying.

jayo26

Looks like no matter what the result today it's time to avoid all forms of Interweb activities for two weeks.

duffman13

Well after having a **** attack looking at our team I just seen the Swansea back 4, two inexperienced CBs and the same at LB. Both teams to score, United to win and Ibra two or more. Get on it, should be an interesting game

TheDoc

Probably a godsend this match isnt on Tv

Throw it on a stream while I play games and not get absolutely mortified

jayo26

TheDoc wrote: »

Revelation, manager just actually says it.

If a manager comes out at a press conference and says "this guys attitude stinks" then EVERYONE will back the manager and the player will be gonzo from the club with no tears, or will need to seriously turn it around.

I really never get the whole cloak and dagger stuff, its really silly. If managers were more forthright with fans, they would get a lot more patience and sympathy.

Instead its behind the scenes stuff and fans treated like they are knuckle draggers. It's so annoying.

Because if a manager says his attitude stinks players value instantly drops clubs want that player and know he is available but manager doesn't Like him.

Press conferences mean absolutely Jack sh1t these days they are a chore for the players and staff and who could blame them the over scrutiny of the press has ruined them and social media a player can't give his time personal opinion or. Have a bit of craic with another club or player on his own social media account or he will be in the papers and tv the next day.

bangkok

Prediction.....Swansea 1-4 United. Phil Jones off injured before half time

FixitFelix

bangkok wrote: »

Prediction.....Swansea 1-4 United. Phil Jones off injured before half time

Can see this coming back to bite you

deaddonkey15

If Mourinho said a player's attitude stinks in a press conference it would just be another example of him apparently throwing players under a bus. There would be no benefit to him saying it whatsoever.

Lord TSC

limnam wrote: »

Considering what you said above wouldn't it be the perfect match to give miki some premier league minutes to?

I don't think the issue with Mkhi any more is fitness or lack of minutes, or whatever. There's been some sort of fallout between player and manager. Don't know the reason or who has caused it, but for whatever reason, Mkhi's career at United seemed to take a massive, massive hit before it even began....

TheDoc

That Rooney pass less than a minute in.

Might just turn this off

Jayop

If anyone has a decent way to watch this could they shoot me a PM please.

ericzeking

What's the formation?

The only streams that are working for me from reddit are the liverpool ones FML
and ya im in the united section of streams have it on the Radio so Ive gone biblical

Just got one

bucketybuck

TheDoc wrote: »

Revelation, manager just actually says it.

If a manager comes out at a press conference and says "this guys attitude stinks" then EVERYONE will back the manager and the player will be gonzo from the club with no tears, or will need to seriously turn it around.

Are you for real?

People already accuse Jose of throwing players under the bus, just this week an innocuous comment after the midweek game was labelled as Jose blasting the players, if Jose or any manager went into a press conference and publicly slated the players there would be a queue of screaming detractors a mile long.

If Jose went into a presser and said that there was a rotten core to the playing squad that would take time to root out and that his players attitude stinks, then he would get slaughtered. Any manager would get slaughtered, its not "cloak and dagger" nonsense to keep these things in-house, its simple common sense.

Jayop

I have a working satream but the picture is brutal.

ShooterSF

Not a great first 10

Hotblack Desiato

Get in!

Lithium93_

Go on Pogba

what a goal booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

TheDoc

Aw what a brilliant goal.

Dante

What a strike!

ElChe32

POGBOOOOOOOM

limnam

As I was saying, genius from Jose. Master stroke. What a line up. :pac:

Lord TSC

What a screamer!

Yes, brilliant from Pogba!

Jayop

Holy **** what a goal

jayo26

What a goal he pogvolleyed it into the top corner

Nearly 2 big fellea withe the big hair shoots just wide

Lithium93_

Deleted User wrote: »

Nearly 2 big fellea withe the big hair shoots just wide

Fellaini should've done better with that chance.

Trigger

Looks like a 4141 formation.. maybe bangkoks prediction will come true

Pogba
Nothing player bill

Lithium93_

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Fellaini should've done better with that chance.

Probably but it was on his left, shame it wasnt someone else

Hotblack Desiato

and it's two

ShooterSF

astradave wrote: »

Looks like a 4141 formation.. maybe bangkoks prediction will come true

I missed that was it a Fellaini hat-trick again?

TheDoc

Delighted for him

ElChe32

Zlataaaaaaaaan

Lithium93_

Ibrahimovic

Rossi IRL

Anyone got a replay of the goal?

Bret Hart

IBRA .

still 1-0 here

Headshot

Go wan Ibra

****ing delighted for him