Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Kerrydude1981

That's a strange one with Weir,he looked decent enough last season the few times I watched the reserves

Maybe he wanted the move away himself,best of luck to him anyway

GSPfan

DM_7 wrote: »

United can buy most players back any way.

Yeah for £89 million.

adox

Meh, deaddonkey was the same as those going over the top with the Rooney criticism, just at the opposite end. He posted plenty of snarky comments as well so I've no sympathy for him. Also went out of his way to keep the Rooney thing going.

The joke was a light hearted joke ffs and I thought a nice tongue in cheek nothing comment but of course he has to wade in again with both feet.

He made a mountain out of a mole hill( not for the first time) and has escalated a mild stab at humour into a victim plea.

Rossi IRL

Rossi IRL wrote: »

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/771076092413222912

Time for me to be Jose critical
He's sold a fair bit of youth this transfer window which I don't like

deaddonkey15

adox wrote: »

Meh, deaddonkey was the same as those going over the top with the Rooney criticism, just at the opposite end. He posted plenty of snarky comments as well so I've no sympathy for him. Also went out of his way to keep the Rooney thing going.

The joke was a light hearted joke ffs and I thought a nice tongue in cheek nothing comment but of course he has to wade in again with both feet.

He made a mountain out of a mole hill( not for the first time) and has escalated a mild stab at humour into a victim plea.

I've already made it clear that I have no issue with the joke, I thought it was very funny. I'd appreciate evidence for the bolded parts though.

Edit: In fact evidence for all your claims would be appreciated.

GSPfan

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I'd appreciate evidence for the bolded parts though.

I seen this coming a mile away!

Haven't seen a request fullfilled as of yet.

J. Marston

Whatsisname wrote: »

It can be alright, don't like how its a free for all to say whatever you want to say about a player. Non existent line between criticism and personal abuse over there.

One of its few plus points for me. You can vent and call a player a knob without fear of a yellow card.

Jayop

J. Marston wrote: »

One of its few plus points for me. You can vent and call a player a knob without fear of a yellow card.

And that's bred a hive mind made up of idiotic children who all hate whoever the senior posters hate and love whoever they love.

Rossi IRL

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Time for me to be Jose critical
He's sold a fair bit of youth this transfer window which I don't like

Love, mcnair, weir, keane...... I dont mind, doubt they will ever become world beaters anyway.

Our u21 team has been terrible this season so far though and now has very small numbers to pick from.

Henderson and Pereira loans are good. Would of preferred Pereira to go to the championship though.

deaddonkey15

GSPfan wrote: »

I seen this coming a mile away!

Haven't seen a request fullfilled as of yet.

I haven't either, and I'm not too optimistic about this one.

adox

GSPfan wrote: »

I seen this coming a mile away!

Haven't seen a request fullfilled as of yet.

Well done.

It's pretty obvious from his posting history over the last few weeks. It's not like I'm revealing some subtle hidden gems that I need to dig up.

Call me lazy but I can't be arsed searching for quotes from his posts to present as evidence that were as obvious to anyone who cared to pay attention.

Anyway I've had enough of the likes of the above nonsense from posters on here. I'm going to take a break from here for a while and leave youse to it.

Adamocovic

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Love, mcnair, weir, keane...... I dont mind, doubt they will ever become world beaters anyway.

Our u21 team has been terrible this season so far though and now has very small numbers to pick from.

Henderson and Pereira loans are good. Would of preferred Pereira to go to the championship though.

The reason I'm more concerned about Weir leaving however is that he has been promising in the youths and hasn't had a spell away or gained any professional experience yet he has still been sold.

Maybe he won't become a world beater, but it just seems odd to me that a player who has been promising and done well in the youths is sold off rather than given a chance to prove himself on loan. Now maybe there is more to it, maybe he wanted a permanent deal, maybe there is a buy back clause, who knows.

It just kind of goes against the norm in my view for a player with his potential.

Flint Fredstone

GSPfan wrote: »

I seen this coming a mile away!

Haven't seen a request fullfilled as of yet.

It's like a court of law in here at times.

deaddonkey15

adox wrote: »

Well done.

It's pretty obvious from his posting history over the last few weeks. It's nice like I'm revealing some subtle hidden gems that I need to dig up.

Call me lazy but I can't be arsed searching for quotes from his posts to present as evidence that were as obvious to anyone who cared to pay attention.

Anyway I've had enough of the likes of the above nonsense from posters on here. I'm going to take a break from here for a while and leave youse to it.

Asked to back up your statements about me and you run away instead. Brilliant.

mewe

adox wrote: »

Well done.

It's pretty obvious from his posting history over the last few weeks. It's nice like I'm revealing some subtle hidden gems that I need to dig up.

Call me lazy but I can't be arsed searching for quotes from his posts to present as evidence that were as obvious to anyone who cared to pay attention.

Anyway I've had enough of the likes of the above nonsense from posters on here. I'm going to take a break from here for a while and leave youse to it.

You'd be well missed on this thread. Speak a lot of sense a lot of the time and not afraid to have a laugh either.

brinty

We'll that's a waste of 15 minutes reading through 6 pages

Who ever was having a go at Cookie dough has made a mortal enemy of me... posters beware...

Hayley looks exquisite, why is that perma tanned yolk in Hayley's seat

Best of luck to James Weir but he's at an age where he'll not break into the first team squad never mind the actual team so time to move on and get first team football

Jesus lads will yee chill the **** out
International breaks / summer downtime = Everybody loses the head

Ah Adox come back!

StringerBell

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Time for me to be Jose critical
He's sold a fair bit of youth this transfer window which I don't like

Not unexpected though.

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

Not unexpected though.

Not unexpected by Jose or the quality of what was sold?

StringerBell

J. Marston wrote: »

One of its few plus points for me. You can vent and call a player a knob without fear of a yellow card.

Yes, and when I feel I am about to go into a rant about a player when they misplace a pass or something I often check and find someone has called him a dirty ****in nonce who clearly noshes off Rui Faria to get a game, which obviously lightens my mood completely and gives me some perspective on things

deaddonkey15

brinty wrote: »

Who ever was having a go at Cookie dough has made a mortal enemy of me... posters beware...

You already have me on your ignore list.

GSPfan

adox wrote: »

Well done.

It's pretty obvious from his posting history over the last few weeks. It's nice like I'm revealing some subtle hidden gems that I need to dig up.

Call me lazy but I can't be arsed searching for quotes from his posts to present as evidence that were as obvious to anyone who cared to pay attention.

Anyway I've had enough of the likes of the above nonsense from posters on here. I'm going to take a break from here for a while and leave youse to it.

Lazy.

Adamocovic

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

You already have me on your ignore list.

...but that means he can't see this post

GSPfan

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

It's like a court of law in here at times.

That couldn't be further from reality. Its the very definition of a Kangaroo Court in here.

DM_7

On sale of some young pkayets. Its okay sobfar as its not like he sold Fosu-Mensah, Borthwick Jackson or Tuanzebe.

Edit: players also got loan deals which is better than keeping them around if they wouldn't get the game time needed.

Adamocovic

DM_7 wrote: »

Its not like he sold Fosu-Mensah, Borthwick Jackson or Tuanzebe.

I admit I might be in the minority about it and maybe I rate James Weir higher than others.

It just caught me by surprise selling him.

deaddonkey15

Adamocovic wrote: »

...but that means he can't see this post

I know. It was for everyone else's benefit.

Liam McPoyle

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Time for me to be Jose critical
He's sold a fair bit of youth this transfer window which I don't like

Is anyone gone that any of us had any real hope for?

We churn out a staggering amount of young players, the fact is that the majority are not and will not ever be good enough for the first team.

If he was to ship the likes of Rashers or TFM for example then I'd be annoyed, otherwise it makes no odds IMO.

Flint Fredstone

GSPfan wrote: »

That couldn't be further from reality. Its the very definition of a Kangaroo Court in here.

Depending on who you're arguing with. I get the impression some people only care about winning the argument, even if it's on a technicality.

Whatsisname

GSPfan wrote: »

That couldn't be further from reality. Its the very definition of a Kangaroo Court in here.

Please show evidence of this

Adamocovic

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Depend on who you're arguing with. I get the impression some people only care about winning the argument, even if it's on a technicality.

I'm sorry but whenever I see that I just think of this..

GSPfan

Whatsisname wrote: »

Please show evidence of this

No.

See... Just like a Kangaroo Court. Now all I need is a group of people to agree with me, disagree with you, and label you as something you may not be.

StringerBell

If he had shipped out Rashford or TFM this time last year before you were very aware of them (assuming) I don't think you would have been bothered either though, maybe even if you did know enough about Rashford cause he didn't pull up trees to be honest. The vast majority will not be good enough for the United first team obviously, so it is not unexpected to see youth players move on, nor to see Jose being decisive in that regard. All we can do is hope he gets more right then wrong.

bangkok

Jayop wrote: »

Our u21 team is going to take a beating with all these lads going.

Does anyone really care? The u21 teams basic function is to provide players who are good enough their chance with the first team

Saul T Nutzz

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

Is anyone gone that any of us had any real hope for?

We churn out a staggering amount of young players, the fact is that the majority are not and will not ever be good enough for the first team.

If he was to ship the likes of Rashers or TFM for example then I'd be annoyed, otherwise it makes no odds IMO.

The youth squad are losing games week in week out at the moment. I'd argue that selling potential talent and limiting the squad further may have long term implications to the Utd setup

Whatsisname

GSPfan wrote: »

No.

See... Just like a Kangaroo Court. Now all I need is a group of people to agree with me, disagree with you, and label you as something you may not be.

Was only pulling yer leg anyway dude

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

If he had shipped out Rashford or TFM this time last year before you were very aware of them (assuming) I don't think you would have been bothered either though, maybe even if you did know enough about Rashford cause he didn't pull up trees to be honest. The vast majority will not be good enough for the United first team obviously, so it is not unexpected to see youth players move on, nor to see Jose being decisive in that regard. All we can do is hope he gets more right then wrong.

That's not my initial concern
Just replied to Saul with my thoughts

StringerBell

GSPfan wrote: »

Its the very definition of a Kangaroo Court in here.

Whatsisname wrote: »

Please show evidence of this

GSPfan wrote: »

No.

GSPfan wrote: »

Lazy.

Brilliant.

International weeks are tremendous in fairness, anything happening deadline day?

Not following it at all as I doubt there will be much interest in it for a United fan

bangkok

M!Ck^ wrote: »

The youth squad are losing games week in week out at the moment. I'd argue that selling potential talent and limiting the squad further may have long term implications to the Utd setup

Not really, potential talent has always been sold every season, you have to decide if you think they are good enough or have improved year after year. Chances are if they are good enough, they will get their chance and be kept with squad

Trigger

hi guys, any transfer ne....

bangkok

Also on Rooney, 3 games, 1 goal 2 assists this season. Decent start for a no 10

StringerBell

M!Ck^ wrote: »

The youth squad are losing games week in week out at the moment. I'd argue that selling potential talent and limiting the squad further may have long term implications to the Utd setup

Winning or losing in itself isn't important but it obviously wouldn't be the best for morale to be getting beat every week.

Learning/developing is the goal though rather then winning.

StringerBell

M!Ck^ wrote: »

That's not my initial concern
Just replied to Saul with my thoughts

Sorry dude that post was actually supposed to quote Saul T Nutz and not meant to be a response to you.

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

Not really, potential talent has always been sold every season, you have to decide if you think they are good enough or have improved year after year. Chances are if they are good enough, they will get their chance and be kept with squad

The more competitive the youth setup is the more likely that someone like Rashford makes the step up to the next level
So no I don't agree that stripping back the youth team further has any positive effect or will increase the likely-hood of blooding younger talent into the senior setup

Trigger

Off topic but this gave me a laugh

https://twitter.com/HotspurRelated/status/771095388560515072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Everton like the overly attached girlfriend

Edit: continues

https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/771096919670198272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

He's off to Spurs btw on a 5 year contract apparently

Flint Fredstone

bangkok wrote: »

Also on Rooney, 3 games, 1 goal 2 assists this season. Decent start for a no 10

Martial. 3 games, 2 assists but he's clearly been sh*te.

GSPfan

Sissoko signing for Spurs is a good move for both of them.

deaddonkey15

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Martial. 3 games, 2 assists but he's clearly been sh*te.

Both in the one game, 1st "assist" was hardly intentional and the second was a simple pass to Ibrahimovich. Offered nothing against Hull and missed a very good chance against Southampton, set up by Rooney of all people. Rooney has contributed in every game so far.

Trigger

GSPfan wrote: »

Sissoko signing for Spurs is a good move for both of them.

The best bit about it all is on Sky Sports News the headline is "Everton withdraw interest in Moussa Sissoko".. Yeah right, nothing to do with the fact that you got jilted :pac:

GSPfan

astradave wrote: »

The best bit about it all is on Sky Sports News the headline is "Everton withdraw interest in Moussa Sissoko".. Yeah right, nothing to do with the fact that you got jilted :pac:

They never wanted him anyway!