Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Cypher_sounds

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

58% possession, no shots on target. Sounds familiar...

I find it odd that if someone hits the post or crossbar it doesn't count as being on target. Could the inside of a post not be considered a target to hit?

Pro. F

It's gas seeing people trying to blame Rooney for this.

Thepoet85

Too Tough To Die wrote:

Mourinho is a spent force. Really poor appointment.

Yea sack him, he doesn't have a clue. Catch yourself on, it's been a few games.

How Soon Is Now

duffman13 wrote: »

Didn't say he did but I was more talking abut the substitution itself, don't think Jose would want to make another unenforced changes so early in the game.

What good is Rooney taking up a spot in the team at the moment though?

Mata Herrera or even Carrick would at least fit in and be more suited to area of the team.

Rooney is not a midfielder never will be one and he's clearly not going up front instead of Ibra so bench him. Bring him back to reality.

Manutd_4life

We need a Carrick or Bastian type player to control this game.

F**k off Rooney

duffman13

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Mourinho is a spent force. Really poor appointment.

Jesus christ, try a little harder, early doors in the season, at least be a bit more subtle!

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

To be fair, he was pretty useless yet again before that incident.

It's a confidence thing, we can't just suddenly assume he's no longer talented because of a couple of poor performances

People keep forgetting what age he is, it's up to Jose to develop him further and I would question how he seems to be using him in the team at the moment

There are clearly a lot of problems evident.

Rooney in midfield is a disaster, but even if he was playing #10 he'd still drop deep
Rashford on the wing, I don't get it

Pogba has actually been one of the better players as has Fellaini but if we don't play to Pogba strengths and utilize a proper midfielder in a 3 man rotation then it will never happen
Rooney is occupying the space where Pogba should be and it's having a negative impact in nearly every attack

Too Tough To Die

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Yea sack him, he doesn't have a clue. Catch yourself on, it's been a few games.

Wasn't calling for his head mate. But he was the last person i wanted in charge of us.

Quandary

Talk of putting Rooney out to pasture is completely OTT. That being said, he should never be played in midfield. It just doesn't work. He needs to be played as a proper no.10 or striker and in this formation we don't play with a 10. Rooney should be rotated with Ibrahimovic in this formation or else not played at all.

Most English pundits are saying the same thing now too.

Very frustrating.

Lord TSC

If you're calling for the managers head after 6 competitive games, then you really need to have a word with yourself. Whatever about demanding more or being critical, actually calling for his head exposes your opinions as ones not worth noting...

madcabbage

Carrick in behind Fellani and Pogba, bin off Rooney.

Manutd_4life

Biggest half of Jose's Utd career.

Impressively shocking football

PhlegmyMoses

Pro. F wrote: »

It's gas seeing people trying to blame Rooney for this.

I agree. He is massively out of position and not playing great, but he's not even been near one of our biggest problems today

Thepoet85

Too Tough To Die wrote:

Wasn't calling for his head mate. But he was the last person i wanted in charge of us.

He's a history of success. I'm not his biggest fan, but think he's the right man for the job at the moment.

How Soon Is Now

Adamocovic wrote: »

It's opinion your entitled to, I was just saying I find it a bit funny myself that for a lot of fans, our problems seem to start and end with Rooney.

Bringing on someone like Herrera for Rooney might well help alright, we won't really know until something is done. But there are far more problems in the performance right now than one player . We have looked sloppy in defence, Smalling and Bailly not looking the most secure, Zlatan looks off the pace and wasteful, something that we know can change easily, Martial was very poor before he came off, Valencia caught a bit going back. To be honest there really isn't a player who could put their hand up and say they've done very good, and a big step up is needed.

Now football being football that can all change second half. And I'm sure we all are hoping that. It will be interesting to see what Mourinho decides to do.

Rooney is one problem which obviously won't solve everything. We just need to start playing the right players in right positions. If anything it's a bloody waste of a player likr Pogba to have Wayne Rooney next to him in midfield.

duffman13

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

What good is Rooney taking up a spot in the team at the moment though?

Mata Herrera or even Carrick would at least fit in and be more suited to area of the team.

Rooney is not a midfielder never will be one and he's clearly not going up front instead of Ibra so bench him. Bring him back to reality.

I was speaking about a sub specifically in relation to this game. Id like to see Rooney benched but I also believe that taking him off right now so soon after Martial was taken off is a potential risk!

adox

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

The calmness of a Schweinsteiger or a Carrick is missing out there in the middle.

Both too old.

There are midfielders sitting on the bench.

I'm not trying to start the Rooney debate again but he shouldn't be playing in midfield and doing so tells me he is being shoe horned into the team which is very disappointing, especially after Joses pre season words on him.

Most of the players just seem to know what they are supposed to be doing.

Also the pressing when not in possession is pathetic. Just watch how much time Watford players have on the ball compared to Utd players, the amount of crosses that are blocked by Watford players and stopped at source, whereas when Watford are crossing, more often than not it passes the defender into the box.

ShooterSF

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Biggest half of Jose's Utd career.

Impressively shocking football

Would have said the second half of the Derby was bigger.

StringerBell

Some inability to beat players and get crosses in

Headshot

Do we not have anybody in the first team that can take Corners instead of Rooney

jharr100

His average position , 44m from goal in the 1st half

sReq | uTeK

jharr100 wrote: »

His average position , 44m from goal in the 1st half

AH he's fine he has a goal and 2 assists in the last 4 games....it doesn't really matter if he's a passenger stats done lie..............or some would have you believe.

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Stay away from the match thread the trolling is unreal

Adamocovic

Surprised no mention of how poor Zlatan has been.

I know he's the sort of player who can play poorly and pop up with a goal but he has looked so sluggish and wasteful today.

Would nearly prefer Rashford to go up top and bring Memphis out wide.

Chris_Bradley

BT audio error having a bitch about United

h*tps://youtu.be/BwtvDS3dc4w

StringerBell

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Stay away from the match thread the trolling is unreal

Ah it gives you a great laugh in fairness, its a break from the ****e you would be watching. Just treat it like you are watching little kids desperate to impress their friends

Headshot

I ****ing despise seeing Rooney starting at this stage

J. Marston

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Stay away from the match thread the trolling is unreal

Think we'll be behind Liverpool when we lose this so I hope everyone in here has thick skins when visitors arrive later!

StringerBell

I'd be taking Rooney off now, probably seen enough of him today, just isn't his day unfortunately. Push Ibra to the shadow striker role, Rashford up top and bring on Memphis to play left/right.

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Chris_Bradley wrote: »

BT audio error having a bitch about United

h*tps://youtu.be/BwtvDS3dc4w

I don't see much said there that they wouldn't say anyway on air...

Thepoet85

Wayne Rooney ha, is he for real today.

Rossi IRL

What does Rooney have over these managers.

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

I ****ing despise seeing Rooney starting at this stage

I just ****ing cant stand it

Hopefully posters finally see how a ****ing shambles he has become

Mars Bar

Rashford

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Get the **** in. Ibra and Rashford.

Rossi IRL

Great play by Rashers and Ibra

hufpc8w3adnk65

Get in

Cypher_sounds

Rashford is just a ledge!!

gosplan

Adamocovic wrote: »

Surprised no mention of how poor Zlatan has been.

I know he's the sort of player who can play poorly and pop up with a goal but he has looked so sluggish and wasteful today.

Would nearly prefer Rashford to go up top and bring Memphis out wide.

Boom. There's Zlatan trying.

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Rossi IRL wrote: »

Great play by Rashers and Ibra

Would love you see a 4 4 2 with them up top

adox

Seriously, Rooney is having an awful game.

And he's staying on. Haha.

This whole thing is pathetic.

Adamocovic

Odd substition there. Thought it would be Rooney off and Mata on.

Must be a formation change for the team to push on and attack. Maybe push Rooney further forward with Zlatan.

Just as I'm typing Rashford scores. Good play by Zlatsn. Fortunate goal but we'll take it! Hopefully can start to improve now, or atleast scrape a win.

StringerBell

It is something that could work well, Ibra playing behind Rashford. He has the talent to utilize his skills, great link up from them to create the chance for that goal.

LostBoy101

Jesus Rooney is on a different planet!

Adamocovic

gosplan wrote: »

Boom. There's Zlatan trying.

Was very nice play by him. Hopefully he can kick on and do some more of that during the game.

adox

Get in. Lovely from him and Ibra.

Anyway Rooney staying on is a joke. Disappointed in Jose.

How Soon Is Now

God winning this be massive now!

Quandary

To be fair to Rooney, it's not his fault he is being played. It is the manager who is too cowardly to not play him in favour of a more balanced option.

Paying the guts of £100m for Pogba and then playing him similar to how he was played for France is baffling.

Maximus Alexander

Thank feck for Rashers at least. He seems to have that ice cold focus that Martial had last year but seems to have lost.

Nalz

Quandary wrote: »

To be fair to Rooney, it's not his fault he is being played. It is the manager who is too cowardly to not play him in favour of a more balanced option.

Paying the guts of £100m for Pogba and then playing him similar to how he was played for France is baffling.

I don't agree it's exactly how France played him, not entirely.