Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016/2017

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gitzy16v wrote: »

Dont get me wrong i'm delighted we've won,I couldn't care less about other results,but I certainly wont be celebrating anything other than winning the league or champions league.
Fcuk celebrating beating West Ham,its West Ham.
I've said it already,good result,decent performance.Long way to go yet.
I've also seen nothing this season to convince me its going to be any different than the last 10.

Here here. Changes nothing for me UNTIL we win a league.

FixitFelix

gitzy16v wrote: »

Dont get me wrong i'm delighted we've won,I couldn't care less about other results,but I certainly wont be celebrating anything other than winning the league or champions league.
Fcuk celebrating beating West Ham,its West Ham.
I've said it already,good result,decent performance.Long way to go yet.
I've also seen nothing this season to convince me its going to be any different than the last 10.

Can I go to your Xmas party?

greendom

Basil3 wrote: »

gitzy16v wrote: »

Dont get me wrong i'm delighted we've won,I couldn't care less about other results,but I certainly wont be celebrating anything other than winning the league or champions league.
Fcuk celebrating beating West Ham,its West Ham.
I've said it already,good result,decent performance.Long way to go yet.
I've also seen nothing this season to convince me its going to be any different than the last 10.

I have. Playing like cr*p and still winning, or at least drawing.

Harder to beat for sure. More strength un depth. A great centre back partnership. Solid GK. I could go on. Plenty to be positive about (if you want to be positive)

Ol' Donie

gitzy16v wrote: »

I've also seen nothing this season to convince me its going to be any different than the last 10.

Our centre forward is joint top scorer in the league.

It's been a while.

gitzy16v

FixitFelix wrote: »

Can I go to your Xmas party?

No

Mickeroo

8. The number of times it has apparently been justifiable to enjoy supporting arsenal since world war 2

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

8. The number of times it has apparently been justifiable to enjoy supporting arsenal since world war 2

1948 (league)
1950 (FA cup)
1953 (league)
1970 (fairs cup)
1971 (Double)
1979 (FA cup)
1989 (league)
1991 (league)
1993 (Cup double)
1994 (CWC)
1998 (double)
2002 (double)
2003 (cup)
2004 (invincible league)
2005 (cup)
2014 (cup)
2015 (cup)


Thats a bit more than 8

gitzy16v

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Our centre forward is joint top scorer in the league.

It's been a while.

Van Persie?Didnt win the league then

gitzy16v

greendom wrote: »

Harder to beat for sure. More strength un depth. A great centre back partnership. Solid GK. I could go on. Plenty to be positive about (if you want to be positive)

Im positive about all that,never said we were sh1t just not counting my chickens just yet...the real test is are we now good enough to win the league because of those improvements...I have my doubts,love to be proved wrong though

gitzy16v

gitzy16v wrote: »

Im positive about all that,never said we were sh1t just not counting my chickens just yet...the real test is are we now good enough to win the league because of those improvements...I have my doubts,love to be proved wrong though

Ah cop on now. If you are not blowing your load everywhere after this weekend then you are a very very hard man to please. :P

mansize

If we won the league I imagine that wouldn't be good enough either!

Some people just want to watch the world burn!
(And given recent electoral results they may soon have their wish)

gitzy16v

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah cop on now. If you are not blowing your load everywhere after this weekend then you are a very very hard man to please. :P

Been let down too many times...once we played football 2nd only to Barcelona:) but lost:mad:,now were useless but scrape wins and draws..one thing remains constant through all that time...No major trophies.:(

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

Been let down too many times...once we played football 2nd only to Barcelona:) but lost:mad:,now were useless but scrape wins and draws..one thing remains constant through all that time...No major trophies.:(

5-1 away, that's scraping a win??? 🤔

Bridge93

gitzy16v wrote: »

Been let down too many times...once we played football 2nd only to Barcelona:) but lost:mad:,now were useless but scrape wins and draws..one thing remains constant through all that time...No major trophies.:(

Jesus if you think you're useless spare a thought for the 99.9% of people who support teams not at arsenals level.

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

If we won the league I imagine that wouldn't be good enough either!

Some people just want to watch the world burn!
(And given recent electoral results they may soon have their wish)

Plenty good enough,what are you on about?
Lets keep poxy politics out of this.

mansize

Bridge93 wrote: »

Jesus if you think you're useless spare a thought for the 99.9% of people who support teams not at arsenals level.

Faraway hills etc...

Would I rather support Leicester? Would I fuq

gitzy16v

Bridge93 wrote: »

Jesus if you think you're useless spare a thought for the 99.9% of people who support teams not at arsenals level.

I dont care about supporters of other teams

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

I dont care about supporters of other teams

You can't win everything. You have to take the good with the bad.

Arsenal have had very little bad

Bridge93

gitzy16v wrote: »

I dont care about supporters of other teams

The point is you're not useless. You're generally the polar opposite to it. Get over yourself

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

You can't win everything. You have to take the good with the bad.

Arsenal have had very little bad

Woah what good have we had?Before you answer remember we are Arsenal.

Bridge93 wrote: »

The point is you're not useless. You're generally the polar opposite to it. Get over yourself

I may have been wrong saying useless and winning or drawing,playing poorly and winning or drawing is most likely more specfic...
Still doesnt change we won nothing yet....and get over yourself.

mansize

mansize wrote: »

Faraway hills etc...

Would I rather support Leicester? Would I fuq

No one is suggesting you do.

If we won the league of course it would be good enough, of course we wouldnt complain....Why would we? We would be league champions, best team in the land over 38 games.

But we havent done this since 2004 and we blew a great chance last season. Leicester were excellent tbf last season but they weren't out of this world and some of our lads effectively gave up when it was in the melting pot. Granted other teams had their issues, but surely that was more reason for us to seize the initiative?

Why must you always respond with these ludicrous assumptions??

Bridge93

Bridge93 wrote: »

The point is you're not useless. You're generally the polar opposite to it. Get over yourself

We've spent a bit on players since 2013 now so its high time we upped the ante and really pushed on. We dont want to be also rans any longer. Hell if we pushed the issue as good as we could then fair enough but last year, in March we downed tools. It was embarrassing.

Bridge93

gitzy16v wrote: »

Woah what good have we had?Before you answer remember we are Arsenal.


I may have been wrong saying useless and winning or drawing,playing poorly and winning or drawing is most likely more specfic...
Still doesnt change we won nothing yet....and get over yourself.

Nobody has won anything yet? It's December.
Dunno what I have to get over, I'm not making over the top statements. I support an average team with an average history who would kill for a tenth of the success arsenal have had in the last 5 years let alone longer then that. When you hear fans of the top sides throwing their toys out of the pram without a shred of perspective it just seems odd. Especially the day after a result like that.

Absolutely you should all expect better than what the last few years has given but the constant lines (you hear it in other threads too) of how certain players aren't premier league standard, they're ****e, manager is ****e, performances are embarrassing, the team is crap are ridiculous at times. You swear you were Sunderland or someone genuinely crap.
You can expect better and criticise what you see without lazy, over the top reactions. I understand them at Match times (been there myself) but surely when all have calmed down the discussion can be more measured?

gitzy16v

Bridge93 wrote: »

Nobody has won anything yet? It's December.
Dunno what I have to get over, I'm not making over the top statements. I support an average team with an average history who would kill for a tenth of the success arsenal have had in the last 5 years let alone longer then that. When you hear fans of the top sides throwing their toys out of the pram without a shred of perspective it just seems odd. Especially the day after a result like that.

What exactly is over the top...not getting over excited beating west ham in december?...waiting to see if we actuallly challenge for the league before creaming ourselves.
Ive followed Arsenal when we were an average team finishing mid table..we are not any more,we have got the most expensive tickets,one of the biggest stadiums,loads of money but still just hang on for poxy CL qually and have gone no further in 10 years,

mansize

Deleted User wrote: »

No one is suggesting you do.

If we won the league of course it would be good enough, of course we wouldnt complain....Why would we? We would be league champions, best team in the land over 38 games.

But we havent done this since 2004 and we blew a great chance last season. Leicester were excellent tbf last season but they weren't out of this world and some of our lads effectively gave up when it was in the melting pot. Granted other teams had their issues, but surely that was more reason for us to seize the initiative?

Why must you always respond with these ludicrous assumptions??

They are not ludicrous assumptions they are extensions of people's arguments

Do you want stability and relative success of do a Leicester and win the league as a one off? You can't have both

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

They are not ludicrous assumptions they are extensions of people's arguments

Do you want stability and relative success of do a Leicester and win the league as a one off? You can't have both

Whats your definition of relative success?

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

What exactly is over the top...not getting over excited beating west ham in december?...waiting to see if we actuallly challenge for the league before creaming ourselves.
Ive followed Arsenal when we were an average team finishing mid table..we are not any more,we have got the most expensive tickets,one of the biggest stadiums,loads of money but still just hang on for poxy CL qually and have gone no further in 10 years,

We won the FA Cup back to back. The stadium is far from the biggest. Arsenal have reduced priced tickets too. People use the expensive ticket thing as a stick to beat Arsenal with. We are much further on than we were 10 years ago

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

Whats your definition of relative success?

Winning the FA Cup back to back, finishing 4,3 then 2nd in last 3 seasons

Bridge93

gitzy16v wrote: »

What exactly is over the top...not getting over excited beating west ham in december?...waiting to see if we actuallly challenge for the league before creaming ourselves.
Ive followed Arsenal when we were an average team finishing mid table..we are not any more,we have got the most expensive tickets,one of the biggest stadiums,loads of money but still just hang on for poxy CL qually and have gone no further in 10 years,

Over the top is this inability to acknowledge the positives and the exaggeration of the negatives. You're second having only lost once and behind a team on a run of form where it's nearly impossible to keep the pace with. You're through in the champions league again and have a forward in form like you haven't had a forward in for years. Take some enjoyment from it. If you live waiting for some inevitable crash then what's the point? As I said 99.9% of people would kill to be where you are right now.
Have a go at them when and if the time comes. Now is really not one of those times.

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

We won the FA Cup back to back.The stadium is far from the biggest Arsenal have reduced priced tickets too. People use the expensive ticket thing as a stick to beat Arsenal with. We are much further on than we were 10 years ago

Premier League stadium capacity
Club Stadium Capacity
Manchester United Old Trafford 75,653
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260
West Ham NEW Olympic Stadium 60,000
Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,097

Premier League season ticket prices

Team 15/16 16/17 Change
Arsenal £1,014 £1,014
Tottenham £765 £765
Chelsea £750 £750
Liverpool £710 £685 -£25
Southampton £648 £648
Everton £616 £580 -£36
Middlesbrough £461 £570 +£109
Bournemouth £550 £550
Crystal Palace £550 £550
Man Utd £532 £532
Watford £505 £505
Swansea £419 £419
West Brom £399 £399
Leicester £395 £395
Burnley £390 £390
Sunderland £370 £380 +£10
Hull City £606 £324 -£282
Man City £299 £299

mansize

The last time Arsenal finished mid table was 22 years ago.

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

The last time Arsenal finished mid table was 24 years ago.

And???

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

Premier League stadium capacity
Club Stadium Capacity
Manchester United Old Trafford 75,653
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260
West Ham NEW Olympic Stadium 60,000
Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,097

Premier League season ticket prices

Team 15/16 16/17 Change
Arsenal £1,014 £1,014
Tottenham £765 £765
Chelsea £750 £750
Liverpool £710 £685 -£25
Southampton £648 £648
Everton £616 £580 -£36
Middlesbrough £461 £570 +£109
Bournemouth £550 £550
Crystal Palace £550 £550
Man Utd £532 £532
Watford £505 £505
Swansea £419 £419
West Brom £399 £399
Leicester £395 £395
Burnley £390 £390
Sunderland £370 £380 +£10
Hull City £606 £324 -£282
Man City £299 £299

I thought there was more than 1 bigger...

That is the most expensive season ticket tbf given the size of the brand new stadium and the location, are you surprised?

KaiserGunner

mansize wrote: »

The last time Arsenal finished mid table was 24 years ago.

94/95 season so 22 years, still remember it like it was yesterday. Stewart Houston caretaker manager! We were genuinely in disarray that season. Think we were six points off relegation.

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

And???

Was that when you supported an "average" Arsenal side - that won the cup double

gitzy16v

Bridge93 wrote: »

Over the top is this inability to acknowledge the positives and the exaggeration of the negatives. You're second having only lost once and behind a team on a run of form where it's nearly impossible to keep the pace with. You're through in the champions league again and have a forward in form like you haven't had a forward in for years. Take some enjoyment from it. If you live waiting for some inevitable crash then what's the point? As I said 99.9% of people would kill to be where you are right now.
Have a go at them when and if the time comes. Now is really not one of those times.

Your dead right,but I havent disregarded any positives or exaggerated negatives.I know what weve done so far and I know who we have playing for us.
I dont live for an inevitable crash,what a ridiculous thing to say.
I live for a triumphant victory.
Like I said I dont care about 99.9% of the others,I care about Arsenal full stop.

TimeToShine

Not to mention that London is a world class city with plenty of stuff to do before and after the game.

No neutrals or tourists are going to plan a weekend away to Manchester or Hull, but you can bet your ass they'll plan a weekend around an Arsenal game, us being the top club in the area by a significant margin, in one of the best cities in the world - ergo our tickets are in higher demand and more expensive.

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

I thought there was more than 1 bigger...

That is the most expensive season ticket tbf given the size of the brand new stadium and the location, are you surprised?

Tbf haha I thought there was more than 1 till i checked

mansize

KaiserGunner wrote: »

94/95 season so 22 years, still remember it like it was yesterday. Stewart Houston caretaker manager! We were genuinely in disarray that season. Think we were six points off relegation.

Yes. Our manager had been sacked for taking bungs... the club was in turmoil

Unlucky not to retain Cup Winners Cup though - damn you Nayim

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

Was that when you supported an "average" Arsenal side - that won the cup double

That 1 year whats your point?

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

Tbf haha I thought there was more than 1 till i checked

Villa and Newcastle both relegated - -are they bigger

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

That 1 year whats your point?

When were Arsenal a mid table side for a prolonged period???

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

Villa and Newcastle both relegated - -are they bigger

1 Wembley Stadium London 90,000 [2] England national football team National Stadium N/A
2 Old Trafford Manchester 75,653 [3] Manchester United Premier League 1
3 Emirates Stadium London 60,260 [4] Arsenal Premier League 2 Also known as Ashburton Grove.
4 Olympic Stadium London 60,000 [5] West Ham United Premier League 3 Also known as the London Stadium.
5 City of Manchester Stadium Manchester 55,097 [6] Manchester City Premier League 4 Commercially known as the Etihad Stadium. Also known as CoMS and Eastlands.
6 Anfield Liverpool 54,074 [7] Liverpool Premier League 5
7 St James' Park Newcastle upon Tyne 52,338 [8] Newcastle United Championship 1
8 Stadium of Light Sunderland 48,707 [9] Sunderland Premier League 6
9 Villa Park Birmingham 42,660 [10] Aston Villa Championship 2
10 Stamford Bridge London 41,798 [11] Chelsea Premier League 7
11 Hillsborough Stadium Sheffield 39,732 [1

mansize

Great our stadium is huge! And it's sold out most weeks- but people must be hiding

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

When were Arsenal a mid table side for a prolonged period???

The 70s 80s part of the 90s we never competed

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

Great our stadium is huge! And it's sold out most weeks- but people must be hiding

So we got the 3rd biggest stadium,but no major titles in over 10yrs??

mansize

gitzy16v wrote: »

The 70s 80s part of the 90s we never competed

we won the league at both ends of the nineties to leave out odd years is splitting hairs.

70's won the double and the the FA cup in 79

The 80's were less successful, until Michael Thomas popped up! :P

mansize

The 60's were bare, but I didnt exist!

mansize

The most successful English club haven't won the league in 25 years tbf!

gitzy16v

mansize wrote: »

The most successful English club haven't won the league in 25 years tbf!

Whos that?...I dont care about MU or Lpool