Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016/2017

mansize

Ospina deserves his start tbf- this wasn't a game we were ever expected to win tbf

wandatowell

Dire first half.

wandatowell

Ox next to useless.

greendom

It's a mess. What's the system?

Have these players played together before?

pudzey101

coq a liability on a yellow , get Xhaka on asap for him

wonga77

mansize wrote: »

Ospina deserves his start tbf- this wasn't a game we were ever expected to win tbf

Why not? Apart from Ramsey we are more or less full strength, should be well able to compete with PSG

Gringo180

Has Mustafi got cement in his boots? Oxlade Chamberlain as well, offers nothing going forward.

greendom

pudzey101 wrote: »

coq a liability on a yellow , get Xhaka on asap for him

Has to. We really need his passing

Roddy23

Thank fook its only one nil. Cmon Wenger get Giroud and Xhaka on.

wandatowell

Season has been a mess so far.

wonga77

greendom wrote: »

It's a mess. What's the system?

Have these players played together before?

+1, no cohesion whatsoever but I dont understand the thinking behind the starting 11 anyway. I thought he rested Xhaka and Giroud against Southampton for this game. Its all been very stale so far, Ox out of his dept at this level imo

bad2dabone

I'm thoroughly depressed. We're such weaklings

tayto lover

We were pathetic in that half but luckily are still only one down mainly through Cavani's poor finishing.
Wenger needs to freshen up midfield and get Giroud on up front.

Coq off for Xhaka and Ox off for Giroud with Sanches to the wing.

mansize

wonga77 wrote: »

Why not? Apart from Ramsey we are more or less full strength, should be well able to compete with PSG

We ain't at that level IMHO

Gringo180

wandatowell wrote: »

Ox next to useless.

What does Wenger see in this kid? Cant remember him having a great game in a good few years? Gets the ball in the final third and passes an easy 5 yard ball straight to Thiago Silva. Infuriating stuff.

emmetlego

I actually think Giroud on for Ox, with Sanchez to the wing and Elneny on for Coq. Elneny would protect the back 4 a bit better and drive forward better at the right time. He'd also allow Santi a bit more freedom. Giroud would be the outlet ball that we need too.

I'd do a double sub, but knowing Wenger, he may make only 1, or tweak our system and make none. Frustrating to concede so early. We were always going to be 2nd best away to PSG, but I didn't expect this much dominance from them. DiMaria is teaching us a few lessons in delivery and danger!

Bobby Baccala

Pathetic first half performance. Retarded team selection, Sanchez has played worse than I've ever seen him and we've 2 strikers on the bench. Typical.

Gringo180

mansize wrote: »

We ain't at that level IMHO

PsG arent great. If we were playing anyways decent we would put these to the sword.

Alfred Borden

For the big games we have to go with a three of Xhaka, Ramsey and ElNeny in the middle. Lots of energy in there. Santi is too slow for the big away games and Coquelin is just rubbish.

Awesomeness

we needed a top top player to improve on giroud. We didnt get one therefore he has to ****in play.

We are toothless up front without him as a focal point

Gringo180

If it was Mertesacker playing like Mustafi tonight he would be getting crucified.

JustTheOne

Gringo180 wrote: »

If it was Mertesacker playing like Mustafi tonight he would be getting crucified.

Harsh.

bad2dabone

Gringo180 wrote: »

If it was Mertesacker playing like Mustafi tonight he would be getting crucified.

That's true but he is still on a grace period settling in etc.
Ox is poisonous by the way.
Giving up on him.

5star02707

1 nil only, we got caught out with their pace I seriously hope we step up in the 2nd half and please put in xhaka + Giroud or perez

Alfred Borden

Gringo180 wrote: »

If it was Mertesacker playing like Mustafi tonight he would be getting crucified.

Very good in the air. Not so good with anything else 1 and a half games in.

emmetlego

Yes we've been poor, I'm not defending that, but some of the player slating here is comical and I'm hoping is meant as sarcasm, otherwise some chaps here just don't have a clue about football. Not one bit.

Ox excluded of course. He's just in a deep deep rut!

Quazzie

From what Ive seen Mustafi has been better than Kos.

jonneymendoza

Na screw Giroud, he would not have done any better

emmetlego

Quazzie wrote: »

From what Ive seen Mustafi has been better than Kos.

That plus practically zero protection from in front or the sides!!! The 2 CB's are facing an onslaught at times!

wandatowell

Had a chuckle at the BT Sports lads pointing out that Arsenal don't have a centre forward on the pitch when we got two on the bench.

What's with playing players out of position anyway? Understandable when faced with injury problems but Arsene just does it for some reason.

How long can he keep spoofing it?

Gringo180

Gringo180 wrote: »

What does Wenger see in this kid? Cant remember him having a great game in a good few years? Gets the ball in the final third and passes an easy 5 yard ball straight to Thiago Silva. Infuriating stuff.

Ox had an awesome preseason, probably our best player, and got a nice goal against Liverpool.

Other than that, he's been fairly average, but I don't think he stands out bring particularly worse than everyone else. Santi misplaced passes, no control. Sanchez giving the ball away every time he gets it, our back four combining forces to allow the goal etc.

5star02707

We've been getting corners I'm pretty sure Giroud will get most of those headers

jonneymendoza

Cavani is laughable. he has the finish of Giroud

wandatowell

wandatowell wrote: »

Season has been a mess so far.

Wenger has become the master of disaster really.A sh*t season may be just the ticket as we are going nowhere under him and need a change. We seemingly have no striker whatsoever out there. No one in the box. No power in midfield. Iwobi is the best of them and knowing Wenger he will probably be the first to get the curly finger.

Ferocious pace to the game tonigh and we are up against the likes of Krychowiak, Matuidi, Rabiot, and Veratti who have considerable power also. both and Xhaka left on the bench is utterly criminal and Giroud should be started too.

Skylinehead

Alfred Borden wrote: »

For the big games we have to go with a three of Xhaka, Ramsey and ElNeny in the middle. Lots of energy in there. Santi is too slow for the big away games and Coquelin is just rubbish.

I swore he was resting Xhaka for this. Guess not.

Drexel

Been busy the last few weeks so first live match of the season for me. I suspected from the highlights and updates from out previous matches that we haven't been great but we have been worse than I could have imagined today.

Mustafi is having a nightmare. Ox is doing nothing as usual. The rest playing below average.

Don't understand this team selection. Is this our first choice 11 from who's available? I wouldn't say so.

Also I don't know why we ever play Sanchez up front because it just doesn't work. Never has and never will. Giroud on for ox at half time at the very least

Alfred Borden

Monreal has been poor this season but Iwobi is infuriating. Letting Aurier go every single time. Did the same with Clyne against Liverpool on the first game. If he aint going to track back, he should be hooked.

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

Wenger has become the master of disaster really.A sh*t season may be just the ticket as we are going nowhere under him and need a change. We seemingly have no striker whatsoever out there. No one in the box. No power in midfield. Iwobi is the best of them and knowing Wenger he will probably be the first to get the curly finger.

Ferocious pace to the game tonigh and we are up against the likes of Krychowiak, Matuidi, Rabiot, and Veratti who have considerable power also. both and Xhaka left on the bench is utterly criminal and Giroud should be started too.

In Wenger we trust :pac:

pudzey101

lucky its only 1 nil lads , if Wenger uses whatever bit of a brain he has we might nick the draw !!

Drexel

A bad start to the season is starting to become a trait of this team. Can't remember the last good start we have had.

wonga77

No changes at HT, probably wont see a sub until 65 or so mins

GeorgeBailey

wonga77 wrote: »

No changes at HT, probably wont see a sub until 65 or so mins

69 minutes usually. People are always confused as to why. It's Arsene's favourite number.

tayto lover

wonga77 wrote: »

No changes at HT, probably wont see a sub until 65 or so mins

We cant afford to have any of our subs injured

Gringo180

Much better here.

emmetlego

Gringo180 wrote: »

Much better here.

Really?? 3 minutes in??

I give up, I really do

Coq in the box

Gringo180

emmetlego wrote: »

Really?? 3 minutes in??

I give up, I really do

Wtf? We have started much better? Am I wrong?

greendom

Doing a good job of getting the ball off them

tayto lover

We'll get a draw out of this if we make the right changes.
This lot aren't great.

wonga77

should be a yellow there for Di Maria