Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016/2017

Skylinehead · 13-09-2016 9:39pm

I'll take that happily.

13-09-2016 9:39pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Brainless.

Smart call by Wenger tonight. Had we started with Giroud, he would have been sent off in the first half :pac:

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:39pm

Did Olivier get a straight red?

13-09-2016 9:39pm

Second consecutive opening game Giroud has been sent off in

tayto lover · 13-09-2016 9:39pm

mansize wrote: »

If football was simple it would be dull

Wenger deserves credit for tonight

No he doesn't.
He selected the wrong starting 11.

13-09-2016 9:39pm

mansize wrote: »

Did Olivier get a straight red?

No, second yellow

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

Ah ffs

Giroud come on

From what I saw, he did nothing wrong. Will be rescinded.

Typical of this thread

13-09-2016 9:40pm

mansize wrote: »

Did Olivier get a straight red?

Second yellow

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

I don't understand the ref's decision there

wonga77 · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

Stupid from the ref really, call them both over give out if u want, games over and no point in sending them both off. Unless of course the linesman gave the call

wandatowell · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

5star02707 wrote: »

Why was Giroud book wtf? Veratti tripped him

I'd say ref didn't spot anything, bottled it and sent off both players.

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

Basil3 wrote: »

No, second yellow

No, straight red. No 2nd yellow shown by referee

5star02707 · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

Basil3 wrote: »

Smart call by Wenger tonight. Had we started with Giroud, he would have been sent off in the first half :pac:

Hahahaha that actually made sense

pudzey101 · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

when u start Ospina over Cech and it pays off + get an away goal to psg

Skylinehead · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

emmetlego wrote: »

From what I saw, he did nothing wrong. Will be rescinded.

Typical of this thread

You can't rescind a yellow card.

Or was it a straight red?

tayto lover · 13-09-2016 9:40pm

Basil3 wrote: »

Smart call by Wenger tonight. Had we started with Giroud, he would have been sent off in the first half :pac:

How do you know that.
We might have scored four and he'd be replaced for Sat :pac:

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:41pm

tayto lover wrote: »

No he doesn't.
He selected the wrong starting 11.

That's unbelievably harsh IMHO

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:41pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

You can't rescind a yellow card.

Or was it a straight red?

It's a one match ban- suck it up - late enough so didn't impact the game

Skylinehead · 13-09-2016 9:41pm

mansize wrote: »

That's unbelievably harsh IMHO

It's not harsh. Chamberlain had no right starting. Sanchez is not a striker. I would have had Xhaka starting as well, but I'll give some leeway on that one.

Quazzie · 13-09-2016 9:41pm

emmetlego wrote: »

No, straight red. No 2nd yellow shown by referee

Yea there was
Look at it again. He had the yellow out for both of them

Drexel · 13-09-2016 9:43pm

emmetlego wrote: »

No, straight red. No 2nd yellow shown by referee

Yeah was straight red. Had the yellow out first and I thought it looked like he changed God his mind when Giraud was complaining and gave him a red

Maybe that's why he didn't start. He looked like a liability from the second he came on

Good result. Bad performance. We have to start playing better soon

wonga77 · 13-09-2016 9:43pm

mansize wrote: »

That's unbelievably harsh IMHO

Not really, Ox should be nowhere near the starting 11, Sanchez shouldnt be up front either. Things seemed to improve when Xhaka came on though I also thought Coq did ok, he's just limited going forward

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:43pm

Quazzie wrote: »

Yea there was
Look at it again. He had the yellow out for both of them

Really?? I didn't see that at all. Either way, no way should that have been shown! Ridulous!

Apologies if that's true

wonga77 · 13-09-2016 9:44pm

Yep both were second yellows, very fussy referee

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:45pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

It's not harsh. Chamberlain had no right starting. Sanchez is not a striker. I would have had Xhaka starting as well, but I'll give some leeway on that one.

He deserves credit for getting an away pony against PSG

Jesus wept, some of the people here have unbelievable expectations

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:46pm

mansize wrote: »

He deserves credit for getting an away pony against PSG

He should be getting show-jumpers on his salary!

tayto lover · 13-09-2016 9:46pm

mansize wrote: »

He deserves credit for getting an away pony against PSG

Jesus wept, some of the people here have unbelievable expectations

And some would defend the indefensible.
Entirely wrong team selection.
When the changes were made and we had what should have been our starting eleven things dramatically improved.

Skylinehead · 13-09-2016 9:47pm

mansize wrote: »

He deserves credit for getting an away pony against PSG

Jesus wept, some of the people here have unbelievable expectations

He deserves credit for recognising that the team in the first half was all wrong, sure. He's not absolved of criticism for picking it though.

Gringo180 · 13-09-2016 9:47pm

greendom wrote: »

Like the look of Iwobi. Clever player

Very impressed. Hes way ahead of Ox and Walcott for me. He actually has a football brain.

13-09-2016 9:47pm

Drexel wrote: »

Yeah was straight red. Had the yellow out first and I thought it looked like he changed God his mind when Giraud was complaining and gave him a red

Maybe that's why he didn't start. He looked like a liability from the second he came on

Good result. Bad performance. We have to start playing better soon

Defo second yellow. Ref did it arseways. Showed Giroud yellow, then Verratti yellow, then Verratti red, then Giroud red. Rewound the sky box to enjoy again :pac:

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:48pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

He deserves credit for recognising that the team in the first half was all wrong, sure. He's not absolved of criticism for picking it though.

But we can criticise with hindsight which he doesn't have tbf

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:49pm

Basil3 wrote: »

Defo second yellow. Ref did it arseways. Showed Giroud yellow, then Verratti yellow, then Verratti red, then Giroud red. Rewound the sky box to enjoy again :pac:

I was watching on SetantaGo so I just saw the red

Gringo180 · 13-09-2016 9:49pm

Decent result lads. Much better performance 2nd half. Enjoyable game and I would have us as favourites now to top the group even at this early stage. Cazorla was excellent again and Ospina made some very crucial saves. Excellent decision maker he is.

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:50pm

Drexel wrote: »

Yeah was straight red. Had the yellow out first and I thought it looked like he changed God his mind when Giraud was complaining and gave him a red

Maybe that's why he didn't start. He looked like a liability from the second he came on

Good result. Bad performance. We have to start playing better soon

Getting these results playing badly I'll take - we will get more cohesive- the team had big changes over the summer tbf

tayto lover · 13-09-2016 9:50pm

Will Ospina start on Sat against Hull or will Cech return?
I'd go for Ospina as Cech has not been impressive of late.

emergingstar · 13-09-2016 9:51pm

Sanchez is not a striker

Ox is not a footballer

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:51pm

Rio right- excellent by Özil for the goal

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:51pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Will Ospina start on Sat against Hull or will Cech return?
I'd go for Ospina as Cech has not been impressive of late.

Will probably be Cech

emergingstar · 13-09-2016 9:52pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Will Ospina start on Sat against Hull or will Cech return?
I'd go for Ospina as Cech has not been impressive of late.

Yes he should start

Skylinehead · 13-09-2016 9:52pm

mansize wrote: »

But we can criticise with hindsight which he doesn't have tbf

We criticised the team before a ball was kicked, that's not hindsight.

And lets be fair, the game should have been gone in the first half if not for Cavani shanking a few shots.

wonga77 · 13-09-2016 9:53pm

As soon as we started putting pressure on them we instantly saw the rewards. For some reason in the first half we were miles off the pace regardless of the early goal. It was the same the last day against Southampton. Pity Iwobi didnt finish that second chance. More than happy with a draw as they missed several great chances. Still baffled by the team selection, Ospina did very well but Ox was putrid once again. I know Giroud got sent off but its still good to see a player throwing his weight around every now and then.

Quazzie · 13-09-2016 9:53pm

It seems I was wrong. It was a straight red. Absolute madnesa

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:53pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Sanchez is not a striker

Ox is not a footballer

Does Samchez do enough without scoring though - he loses the ball a lot too

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:53pm

A very poor performance, but a very good result.

That was a straight red on Giroud deffo. They just showed a replay on BT sport. Bizarre, unless a replay shows something we missed.

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:54pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

We criticised the team before a ball was kicked, that's not hindsight.

And lets be fair, the game should have been gone in the first half if not for Cavani shanking a few shots.

Well the Ospina criticism was wrong and we don't know why players don't start

V harsh on Giroud that sending off

13-09-2016 9:54pm

emmetlego wrote: »

A very poor performance, but a very good performance.

That was a straight red on Giroud deffo. They just showed a replay on BT sport. Bizarre, unless a replay shows something we missed.

You need to go back further. Ref walks over showing the yellow to Giroud first.

emmetlego · 13-09-2016 9:54pm

Quazzie wrote: »

It seems I was wrong. It was a straight red. Absolute madnesa

Cough cough

Godge · 13-09-2016 9:54pm

tayto lover wrote: »

And some would defend the indefensible.
Entirely wrong team selection.
When the changes were made and we had what should have been our starting eleven things dramatically improved.

It could have been worse, he could have picked a team that would lose 2-1 at home to City and have to change two players at half-time.

Results matter. A point in Paris is a great start. Three points at home to Basel and six from Ludogrets sets us up nicely for the home game against PSG.

mansize · 13-09-2016 9:55pm

wonga77 wrote: »

As soon as we started putting pressure on them we instantly saw the rewards. For some reason in the first half we were miles off the pace regardless of the early goal. It was the same the last day against Southampton. Pity Iwobi didnt finish that second chance. More than happy with a draw as they missed several great chances. Still baffled by the team selection, Ospina did very well but Ox was putrid once again. I know Giroud got sent off but its still good to see a player throwing his weight around every now and then.

We need Giroud's physicality

emergingstar · 13-09-2016 9:55pm

mansize wrote: »

Does Samchez do enough without scoring though - he loses the ball a lot too

He always comes too deep and always loses the ball

Have to play LW

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