Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016/2017

Ken Shamrock

It feels strange not to be involved in the bickering for once :pac:

I'm a fan of Mustafi, bout time Koscielny got a competent partner at the back. The hardest part of this season will be squad selection, I don't envy Wenger and although I didn't agree with most his starting XI's so far he's doing a good job.

ronjo

Havent seen so many petty arguments since a certain person left............ twice

Anyway, fantastic performance and result. I was one of the many doubters this season and really wanted Wenger out but the last few weeks have been excellent.

We played a similar sort of game at home to United last season and performances dropped after. Wenger has to really make sure that doesnt happen as you can be damn sure Pep wont let City drop at all.

JustTheOne

ronjo wrote: »

Havent seen so many petty arguments since a certain person left............ twice

Anyway, fantastic performance and result. I was one of the many doubters this season and really wanted Wenger out but the last few weeks have been excellent.

We played a similar sort of game at home to United last season and performances dropped after. Wenger has to really make sure that doesnt happen as you can be damn sure Pep wont let City drop at all.

That's it. There will be much tougher tests, city and united with Jose.

We need to keep that intensity up.

Quazzie

ronjo wrote: »

Havent seen so many petty arguments since a certain person left............ twice

Some people never really leave

greendom

JustTheOne wrote: »

That's it. There will be much tougher tests, city and united with Jose.

We need to keep that intensity up.

True, so good to get that Chelsea monkey of our backs though.

Mourinho and United - how good would it be if we could get the better of that combination.

emmetlego

greendom wrote: »

Mourinho and United - how good would it be if we could get the better of that combination.

At this stage, it's more of an orangutan, but yes, it would be just wonderful!

5star02707

great game at the weekend bar the injury of Coquelin. Just hope he recovers quickly as games are coming in thick and fast. Busy schedule ahead but it's good we have depth this time!

tayto lover

5star02707 wrote: »

great game at the weekend bar the injury of Coquelin. Just hope he recovers quickly as games are coming in thick and fast. Busy schedule ahead but it's good we have depth this time!

Ramsey's injury seems to be taking it's time healing too.
With Coq now out for a few weeks we certainly don't need another injury despite our strength in depth. We are now left with Cazorla, Xhaka and Elneny to fill two places.
In front of them Ozil won't play every game either so we don't need more injuries to disrupt the flow. His role is vital and we don't have anyone capable of filling in for him to the same level.

Ken Shamrock

tayto lover wrote: »

Ramsey's injury seems to be taking it's time healing too.
With Coq now out for a few weeks we certainly don't need another injury despite our strength in depth. We are now left with Cazorla, Xhaka and Elneny to fill two places.
In front of them Ozil won't play every game either so we don't need more injuries to disrupt the flow. His role is vital and we don't have anyone capable of filling in for him to the same level.

I'm not disputing your point but I really like when Cazorla plays in the attacking role, with Elneny and Xhaka behind him I think we'd be alright, I still think sending Wilshere on loan was a mistake.

tayto lover

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

I'm not disputing your point but I really like when Cazorla plays in the attacking role, with Elneny and Xhaka behind him I think we'd be alright, I still think sending Wilshere on loan was a mistake.

My problem with that is that Cazorla seems to give the ball away a lot and that would not be good in that part of the field (its not really good anywhere tbh but happens). I think Sanchez could also play there but would and does often lose possession. Ozil rarely loses it there.

I also agree that we should have kept Jack but we would have too many with a fully fit squad and people would get fed up sitting on the bench if they even got there.

Kirby

He has to play. if he is ever to become a player for a top team, he needs a solid season. loan was the right move.

I think Wilshere on loan was the right move.

tayto lover

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

I think Wilshere on loan was the right move.

Will do him good no doubt but i would have probably have preferred if Ox had to be sent out.

Ken Shamrock

tayto lover wrote: »

My problem with that is that Cazorla seems to give the ball away a lot and that would not be good in that part of the field (its not really good anywhere tbh but happens). I think Sanchez could also play there but would and does often lose possession. Ozil rarely loses it there.

I also agree that we should have kept Jack but we would have too many with a fully fit squad and people would get fed up sitting on the bench if they even got there.

Yeah it's a tough one though because there's never a point where everyone is fully fit. Coq and Ramsey down at the minute if anything at all happens to Xhaka Elneny Caz or Ozil then we have no cover for CM with Wilshere out on loan.

I understand Jack needs 1st team football but I'd rather have him right now than not, I'd personally start him ahead of most.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Will do him good no doubt but i would have probably have preferred if Ox had to be sent out.

Absolutely if you asking me would Ox go before Jack, I would totally agree.
Still a good move for Jack though development wise

tayto lover

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Absolutely if you asking me would Ox go before Jack, I would totally agree.
Still a good move for Jack though development wise

Some of us would probably have sent Theo out too and be eating our words since if he was playing as well as he is now for some other team :eek:

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Some of us would probably have sent Theo out too and be eating our words since if he was playing as well as he is now for some other team :eek:

Possibly but Theo might have a fair few mares this season to justify it.
He's so hot and cold in the past, he has his fans and haters.

Ken Shamrock

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Possibly but Theo might have a fair few mares this season to justify it.
He's so hot and cold in the past, he has his fans and haters.

I'm definitely a hater but you can see he's trying way harder this year.

marvin80

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

I'm definitely a hater but you can see he's trying way harder this year.

I couldn't believe it when I saw him doing a bit of defending on Saturday

It's pretty clear we had loads of midfielders and not a vast array of options on the wing, so I don't really know why people would say Ox should go out instead of Jack. Surely Jack occasionally 'doing a job' on the wing isn't good for anyone?

tayto lover

marvin80 wrote: »

I couldn't believe it when I saw him doing a bit of defending on Saturday

He's actually "like a new player".

What caused the change?

1. New contract talks due?
2. Serious talking to by the manager?
3. Competition for his place?
4. He believes this is our year with our good full squad?
5. Something else?

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

It's pretty clear we had loads of midfielders and not a vast array of options on the wing, so I don't really know why people would say Ox should go out instead of Jack. Surely Jack occasionally 'doing a job' on the wing isn't good for anyone?

Indeed but there is plenty of competition for the wing too - Perez, Sanchez, Ox and Theo. Zelalem could play there too.

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

He's actually "like a new player".

What caused the change?

1. New contract talks due?
2. Serious talking to by the manager?
3. Competition for his place?
4. He believes this is our year with our good full squad?
5. Something else?

According to Wenger it was the kick in the balls he felt by being dropped from the England Euros squad

Pepe LeFrits

Would much rather have Jack as an option for the wing roles than Ox as things stand, but that's not how it is so hopefully Ox can find some form. He's going to have a tough time getting back into the team though now that Iwobi has emerged.

mansize

Jack on loan was good - better players ahead of him in CM

Walcott has had a big improvement this season, he owes Wenger that for the faith he placed in him

Cazorla Sanchez far more creative than Ox - he has disappointed

Quazzie

I'm more upset about losing Gnabry than I am about Jack going on loan.

Gringo180

How has Wilshere being doing on loan? Havent really kept tabs on Bournemouth this season.

Arne_Saknussem

He's only played a couple of games, poor enough against City and better against Everton.

They're looking to give him a full 90mins sometime in the next few games.

emmetlego

So it takes Walcott being dropped by England, to make him play to his full potential?

That is a damning indictment on his character! He's paid 100's of thousands a week, but wasn't trying his hardest??

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

So it takes Walcott being dropped by England, to make him play to his full potential?

That is a damning indictment on his character! He's paid 100's of thousands a week, but wasn't trying his hardest??

Not exactly.

It's pretty clear that Theo is a confidence player, and last season his confidence was seriously down. Nothing would go right for him. Even when players work hard, and things keep going wrong, it's very hard to keep pushing.

I think a summer of soul searching, along with a preseason where he managed to get a bit of form back really helped him to get his confidence back. It's because he's got his confidence back that he's working so hard.

emmetlego

Basil3 wrote: »

Not exactly.

It's pretty clear that Theo is a confidence player, and last season his confidence was seriously down. Nothing would go right for him. Even when players work hard, and things keep going wrong, it's very hard to keep pushing.

I think a summer of soul searching, along with a preseason where he managed to get a bit of form back really helped him to get his confidence back. It's because he's got his confidence back that he's working so hard.

Disagree fully. Especially with the bolded bit. He wasn't working hard, he was jumping out of tackles etc. That's not a confidence thing at all. That's just poor mentality.

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

Disagree fully. Especially with the bolded bit. He wasn't working hard, he was jumping out of tackles etc. That's not a confidence thing at all. That's just poor mentality.

As a result of a major injury the season before. I'm still mentally affected by my ACL reconstruction from almost 20 years ago...it's often in the back of my mind when playing sports. I can completely relate to avoiding contact after something like that. Anyway....

emmetlego

Basil3 wrote: »

As a result of a major injury the season before. I'm still mentally affected by my ACL reconstruction from almost 20 years ago...it's often in the back of my mind when playing sports. I can completely relate to avoiding contact after something like that. Anyway....

With respect, I'm pretty sure you weren't being paid 120k per week, and I'm pretty sure you didn't have a team of sports shrinks working with you.

Let's move on, it's clear we don't agree on this!

We will agree on his current form is some of his career best so far. Long may it last.

mansize

If Theo keeps up this good form it will be a correct decision by Wenger that I questioned- holding onto Walcott

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

If Theo keeps up this good form it will be a correct decision by Wenger that I questioned- holding onto Walcott

It would indeed and it would be great if he does. Hopefully he will..

It however wouldn't explain why Theo was allowed to get away with very poor performances for ages and why he was selected then.

tayto lover

Anyone know if we're on T.V. this week.
Fed up of streams breaking down.

Ken Shamrock

tayto lover wrote: »

Anyone know if we're on T.V. this week.
Fed up of streams breaking down.

We're on BT this week, PM me if you're ever having em... personal issues.

tayto lover

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

We're on BT this week, PM me if you're ever having em... personal issues.

Ooohhhh you are awful but i like you :pac::D

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

It would indeed and it would be great if he does. Hopefully he will..

It however wouldn't explain why Theo was allowed to get away with very poor performances for ages and why he was selected then.

Theo was in poor form last season, and wasn't really played much. He played half the minutes of Giroud or Sanchez.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

Theo was in poor form last season, and wasn't really played much. He played half the minutes of Giroud or Sanchez.

And didn't play anywhere half as well as they did.

Anyway he's playing well now which is what matters.

x PyRo

"According to L'Équipe, Francis Coquelin's injury isn't too serious & he should be back in 15 days."

Brilliant news if true.

x PyRo

x PyRo wrote: »

"According to L'Équipe, Francis Coquelin's injury isn't too serious & he should be back in 15 days."

Brilliant news if true.

It is. What I hope is he won't automatically get back in the squad, which would indicate Xhaka and Elneny are well able to perform.
This is the sort of squad competition we need.

emergingstar

I think we will see more of Jeff this season

Hopefully he can do what iwobi and bellerin done before him

mansize

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

We're on BT this week, PM me if you're ever having em... personal issues.

I pay for BT for my dad so I get to watch it online.

I know Eir Broadband customers get it for free now so contact them if you are with Eir Broadband

gosplan

tayto lover wrote: »

He's actually "like a new player".

What caused the change?

1. New contract talks due?
2. Serious talking to by the manager?
3. Competition for his place?
4. He believes this is our year with our good full squad?
5. Something else?

Career petering out including getting dropped from England?

greendom

gosplan wrote: »

Career petering out including getting dropped from England?

I think he just took a long time to recover from the last injury. Both physically but especially mentally. So long that half our fan base had given up on him. Glad Arsene didn't.

gosplan

greendom wrote: »

I think he just took a long time to recover from the last injury. Both physically but especially mentally. So long that half our fan base had given up on him. Glad Arsene didn't.

Probably but he's showing a tenacity he never displayed before.

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

I think he just took a long time to recover from the last injury. Both physically but especially mentally. So long that half our fan base had given up on him. Glad Arsene didn't.

That wouldn't explain it.
Every player who recovers doesn't shun tackles in one match and then tackle back like he did on Sat.

I think Wenger or the players had a go at him or the fact that he was dropped from the England squad as others have said. The change was too sudden.

Pocaide

Hope one of you might be able to help me out trying to sign up to be a red member on Arsenal.com but when it comes to payment by direct debit it won't accept my bank's details. Any help would be appreciated.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

That wouldn't explain it.
Every player who recovers doesn't shun tackles in one match and then tackle back like he did on Sat.

I think Wenger or the players had a go at him or the fact that he was dropped from the England squad as others have said. The change was too sudden.

The change occurred over the summer and throughout preseason. I was watching.

It wasn't like he was jumping out of tackles one match, then flying around like a madman the next.