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Wildcard Thread 2016/2017

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    And Benteke with an injury time winner, you're welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Sigh. Another wildcard disaster for me. Thats 4 in a row now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭shineon23


    Apologies for not being Mystic Meg.

    I don't know many posters' true identities, but I thought I was sure of this one.

    Damn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Pickford Foster
    Holebas Amat Koscielny Evans Smith
    Sterling Sanchez Ozil Lallanna Meyler
    Kun Rashford Benteke

    Thoughts. Zero in bank


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Toying with this


    Foster Grant

    Kone Amat Kelly Klavan Evans
    Myler Son Mane Capoue Sanchez
    Ibra Kun Rashford

    .8 left over to upgrade maybe Myler or a defender

    Any input?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Toying with this

    Foster Grant

    Kone Amat Kelly Klavan Evans Myler Son Mane Capoue Sanchez Ibra Kun Rashford

    .8 left over to upgrade maybe Myler or a defender

    Any input?


    Upgrade Klaven I reckon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Upgrade Klaven I reckon

    Ya was thinking that aswell... think I'll pull the trigger on the wildcard tomorrow...


    Different question outside of Sanchez what players should I be looking at to hopefully pick up a raise off of before next weeks deadline ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Toying with this


    Foster Grant

    Kone Amat Kelly Klavan Evans
    Myler Son Mane Capoue Sanchez
    Ibra Kun Rashford

    .8 left over to upgrade maybe Myler or a defender

    Any input?

    Lalana instead of Mane for the chance of a double rise perhaps.
    Ibra could drop tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    ElTel wrote: »
    Lalana instead of Mane for the chance of a double rise perhaps.
    Ibra could drop tonight.

    I'm on the beer now so no way I'll log in now as I'd prob make a mess of the wildcard somehow ha ha... I think in the draft I posted I was .3 off son- sterling making that up be handy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Who are most likely for a double rise this week?

    Goin to change Benteke for Deeney and kos for bellerin. Bellerin close to a drop so not yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,943 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Never got to post my WC team but 46 of my 58 points this week came from 3 of the 6 players I brought in.

    Aguero (c) who I would have brought in on my FT anyway.

    Son (15) and VVD (5) where Sat morning punts

    Antonio (2) and Vertoghen (2) didn't do so well.

    Deeney (was a WC pick) and Capoue to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Anyone joining me this week?
    Very different buzz with it this time round. Late again but it's a perfect storm week to be pulling the trigger. (Homer in the land of candy)

    Last year at this time I was in grinding mode and defensive (well from the pov of Top 5k) but now I'm ready to chase value for the first time..

    So am currently on

    Pickford/Mannone 8.5M spent and there 'till second WC

    3.9 Pieters (4.4) Francis (4.5) Nyom (4.3) (Brunt in the end ideally)
    Sanchez (11.4) Firmino (8.6) Phillips (5.3) Kightly(4.2) Hazard (10.1)
    Kane)10.9) Ibra(11.1) Costa(10.5)

    0.1 itb.

    What say you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    ElTel wrote: »
    Anyone joining me this week?
    Very different buzz with it this time round. Late again but it's a perfect storm week to be pulling the trigger. (Homer in the land of candy)

    Last year at this time I was in grinding mode and defensive (well from the pov of Top 5k) but now I'm ready to chase value for the first time..

    So am currently on

    Pickford/Mannone 8.5M spent and there 'till second WC

    3.9 Pieters (4.4) Francis (4.5) Nyom (4.3) (Brunt in the end ideally)
    Sanchez (11.4) Firmino (8.6) Phillips (5.3) Kightly(4.2) Hazard (10.1)
    Kane)10.9) Ibra(11.1) Costa(10.5)

    0.1 itb.

    What say you?

    Are you missing a defender ?????
    Like that front 3 !


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    ElTel wrote: »
    Anyone joining me this week?
    Very different buzz with it this time round. Late again but it's a perfect storm week to be pulling the trigger. (Homer in the land of candy)

    Last year at this time I was in grinding mode and defensive (well from the pov of Top 5k) but now I'm ready to chase value for the first time..

    So am currently on

    Pickford/Mannone 8.5M spent and there 'till second WC

    3.9 Pieters (4.4) Francis (4.5) Nyom (4.3) (Brunt in the end ideally)
    Sanchez (11.4) Firmino (8.6) Phillips (5.3) Kightly(4.2) Hazard (10.1)
    Kane)10.9) Ibra(11.1) Costa(10.5)

    0.1 itb.

    What say you?

    I'd want Alonso in my team and as much as I love Bobby F, I'd probably drop him for Siggy to fund it


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Last few days for people that haven't used it.

    I'm more interested if people are getting ready to use their second one early ?

    Last year I used it to decent affect prior to a DGW and finished the season really well but that was my first year playing.

    This season I've not been able to stop taking what feels like lots of hits.

    I'm thinking of using it early January and sitting on my hands for the remainder of the season.

    Any thoughts ?

    I could WC early January to -

    Heaton, Pickford

    Alonso, Brunt, Jones, Friend, Amat

    Sanchez, Lallana, Willian, 5.8m, De Roon

    Aguero, Costa, Ibrahimovic

    I'm convinced Willian will be first choice by early/mid January.

    I can't separate the front 3 but if I did then I could seriously upgrade my 5.8 mid and carry one of the many decent strikers from 9.0m down. Which of that front 3 would you drop ?

    I wouldn't be afraid of playing Iwobi, Ox (injury depending), Snodgrass, Redmond (especially after the semis), Zaha (when he returns), Can, Allen or the like as my 5.8m regular midfielder.

    Edit - those changes currently would be a -24 hit

    Double edit - is it pure schoolboy error thinking of using it so early bearing in mind it's my second season playing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭LostArt


    I'm having a shocker of a season (1m+ rank!) so I will definitely be wildcarding in January, at the moment my draft team is very similar to your own but my value is less so my midfield along with Sanchez is currently De Roon, Snodgrass, Zaha and Milner. I am very very wary of going with the big three up top though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    @Klopparama.
    I'd consider getting Rose into the defence and playing 4-3-3 in the main.
    You would be less inclined to make D transfers and can then then focus on attack with transfers.

    Using the WC early will mean some long term planning on your part for DGWs.
    I've come around to the notion that BB can be used in a normal GW and the fact that there's no international tournament in the summer could diminish the impact of DGWs. In short I feel an early WC is less of a disadvantage this year.

    The major problem for me is the Transfer Window with your plan.
    Costa and Aguero will be price protected when they come back too. (I think it stops them rising 'till the following GW or 7/8 days. Can someone clarify please?) so I'd recommend getting in the guys you want over 3 GWs perhaps and then you get to see this new Brazilian striker for City etc.

    Oh I've about 1M less than you and the big 3 upfront is still very tempting. It does beg the question of whether costly X is worth the money if he never gets the captain's armband though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    ElTel wrote: »
    Costa and Aguero will be price protected when they come back too. (I think it stops them rising 'till the following GW or 7/8 days. Can someone clarify please?)

    Yes they are protected for 8 days afterwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Yes they are protected for 8 days afterwards.

    OK Thanks.
    I thought the shorter break before the mext GW could have a bearing.
    So Chelsea play Spurs on the 4th:the last game of GW20. So can Costa only change in price after that game?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    My take on the early wildcard play it if you think your team needs major surgery. I wouldn't be waiting till the dgws or taking 12 and 16 pt hits just to hold onto it. For me the ideal strategy would be to be happy with your team and hold it till the dgws. However I think combining it with the TC rather than the BB is the way to go. We analysed scores last yr for early wildcard v late wildcard there was little or no difference. From my own experience I played my wildcard early as I wasn't happy with my team. The problem I faced was the BB and focusing transfers on trying to get as many dgw players as possible from weeks before. I feel the BB actually cost me points in the end as the way the fixtures panned out it was best to use TC the gw aguero and Sanchez both had doubles. When the fixture congestion calms down I plan to use my BB in a sgw.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can't believe I didn't factor in the transfer window.

    Also any manager changes will most likely happen early January and that would also impact on a players attractiveness.

    I suppose I seen an opportunity to get the big 3 up front with Sanchez and thought maybe I wouldn't be able to afford it by end of January when they've risen in price.

    I'm less inclined to use it now although I did forget about the comparison of early v's late from last season even though I partook !

    Thanks for the replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    ElTel wrote: »
    OK Thanks.
    I thought the shorter break before the mext GW could have a bearing.
    So Chelsea play Spurs on the 4th:the last game of GW20. So can Costa only change in price after that game?

    He becomes price locked on the 26th until the 3rd of January I think is how it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭LostArt


    Spent a little time having a look at playing 4-4-2 when I wildcard, team will be:

    Heaton
    Brunt, Dann, Jones, Alonso
    Sanchez, Walcott, Coutinho, De Bruyne
    Benteke, Costa

    Bench: Pickford, Ake, De Roon, 5m ish striker.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    LostArt wrote: »
    Spent a little time having a look at playing 4-4-2 when I wildcard, team will be:

    Heaton
    Brunt, Dann, Jones, Alonso
    Sanchez, Walcott, Coutinho, De Bruyne
    Benteke, Costa

    Bench: Pickford, Ake, De Roon, 5m ish striker.

    Are you dead set on playing 4-4-2 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭LostArt


    Nah, just having a look at a few different options


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Quality team but with defences finding it hard to keep clean sheets I wouldn't be looking beyond a budget defence with the exception of Alonso.

    I'd throw in a United defender as a must too, maybe, as Jose seems to be close to mirroring his format of success.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    LostArt wrote: »
    Spent a little time having a look at playing 4-4-2 when I wildcard, team will be:

    Heaton
    Brunt, Dann, Jones, Alonso
    Sanchez, Walcott, Coutinho, De Bruyne
    Benteke, Costa

    Bench: Pickford, Ake, De Roon, 5m ish striker.

    KDB just isn't worth the cash
    Doesn't score enough goals for that price
    Forward line way too weak
    Who knows what way big Sam will line palace out
    May affect benteke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Considering playing it straight away and just tinkering

    Grant Pickford
    Alonso Brunt Jones Chambers Ake
    Sanchez Lallana Townsend Phillips De Roon
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Midfield looks a bit weak but that front 3 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    That thought came through my head as well as I suffer through another below average GW. I had same front 3, but Hazard and Sanchez. It meant downgrading Alonso to Luiz and only getting Nyom instead of Brunt. Phillips and a 5.6m max for 3rd and 4th mids kind of dampers my enthusiasm though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Would consider switching to 4-3-3 to get Bellerin in as a second premium def rather than having a second cheapie mid. Something like this

    Grant
    Alonso Bellerin Brunt (Ake and Chambers rotating)
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Midfield isn't ideal but there might be enough firepower elsewhere in the team to make up for it :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,830 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Would consider switching to 4-3-3 to get Bellerin in as a second premium def rather than having a second cheapie mid. Something like this

    Grant
    Alonso Bellerin Brunt (Ake and Chambers rotating)
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Midfield isn't ideal but there might be enough firepower elsewhere in the team to make up for it :o

    This is a decent wildcard team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    Would consider switching to 4-3-3 to get Bellerin in as a second premium def rather than having a second cheapie mid. Something like this

    Grant
    Alonso Bellerin Brunt (Ake and Chambers rotating)
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Midfield isn't ideal but there might be enough firepower elsewhere in the team to make up for it :o

    Looks good. I'm aiming for a very similar defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    dahat wrote: »
    This is a decent wildcard team.

    Only problem is I'd have to hit the button straight away on Friday as there's not much room to manoeuvre price wise. Not much time to think about it but I'm fairly sure I'll go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Narrowed it down to two slightly different teams if I decide to play it. Basically Hazard vs Costa.

    4-4-3

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Evans Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Hazard De Roon Fletcher
    Ibra Kun Benteke

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Rose Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Leaning towards team 2 due to it having Costa plus Rose offering Spurs cover.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Narrowed it down to two slightly different teams if I decide to play it. Basically Hazard vs Costa.

    4-4-3

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Evans Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Hazard De Roon Fletcher
    Ibra Kun Benteke

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Rose Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Leaning towards team 2 due to it having Costa plus Rose offering Spurs cover.

    I prefer team 2 also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Wildcard activated :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,830 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Can't be happy with what I'm left with after getting the Big 3 so it's 2 of them for me.

    Aguero + Zlatan most likely as I'll get Pedro for Chelsea cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Narrowed it down to two slightly different teams if I decide to play it. Basically Hazard vs Costa.

    4-4-3

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Evans Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Hazard De Roon Fletcher
    Ibra Kun Benteke

    Grant Hennessy
    Alonso Brunt Rose Ake Chambers
    Sanchez Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Kun Costa

    Leaning towards team 2 due to it having Costa plus Rose offering Spurs cover.

    team 2 for me as well - I dont like having 2 ultra cheapies for the mids though so will go for someone in the 6 mill category for 4th mid. Kinda fancy Moses playing in that wing back position. Guaranteed 3 points every game and maybe even pick up the odd assist or goal here and there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Rikand wrote: »
    team 2 for me as well - I dont like having 2 ultra cheapies for the mids though so will go for someone in the 6 mill category for 4th mid. Kinda fancy Moses playing in that wing back position. Guaranteed 3 points every game and maybe even pick up the odd assist or goal here and there

    Ya I'm not sold on the two cheapies either. Considering Townsend...can see him becoming a favourite of Big Sam and they have the fixtures.


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    I think Townsend is in my final 3 for the last midfielder spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Does anyone have that link handy which shows the full list of players who are going to the AFCON ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Trying to squeeze Pedro in but it would mean sacrificing Brunt for Dawson and
    keeping Amat. He could be insane value at 6.9 though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,830 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Wildcard activated, 352 here we come.....

    No Costa though ... Aguero & Zlatan for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    Rikand wrote: »
    Does anyone have that link handy which shows the full list of players who are going to the AFCON ?

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/12/23/the-africa-cup-of-nations-the-fantasy-football-managers-guide/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Mike Ehrmantraut


    Considering something along these lines after next gw

    Heaton
    Alonso Brunt Pieters
    Sanchez Lallana Pedro Philips
    Aguero Ibra Costa

    Jaku Ake Fletcher Amat

    Would have just enough in the bank to upgrade Lallana to Coutinho
    Any thoughts?
    Probably this or go without Aguero and pick someone like Benteke and upgrade midfield. Could maybe keep Hazard instead of Pedro and bring in Alli or Eriksen for Philips


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Considering something along these lines after next gw

    Heaton
    Alonso Brunt Pieters
    Sanchez Lallana Pedro Philips
    Aguero Ibra Costa

    Jaku Ake Fletcher Amat

    Would have just enough in the bank to upgrade Lallana to Coutinho
    Any thoughts?
    Probably this or go without Aguero and pick someone like Benteke and upgrade midfield. Could maybe keep Hazard instead of Pedro and bring in Alli or Eriksen for Philips
    That's not bad at all
    And I wish I had not seen it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Mike Ehrmantraut


    km79 wrote: »
    That's not bad at all
    And I wish I had not seen it :D

    Lol, cheers. Hoping to wait a week or 2 and see how Aguero goes, but will have to keep an eye on price changes, one or two changes and plans may be completely changed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    So much tidying up to do I'm just tempted to do it now
    Heaton /foster - foster has a lovely run .........may free up some ccash by selling Heaton !
    Smith to ake
    McCauley to brunt
    Jones - not sure maybe keep
    Alonso - I'm possibly looking at bellerin now
    Amat
    Sanchez hazard stay
    Capoue to de roon for cash
    Zaha - I'd ideally likely to keep for swans game but won't if I WC - Phillips
    Siggy to Lallana
    Ibra stays
    Costa - probably stays unless I get aguero in .......
    Carroll to Benteke

    Is it worth it ?
    When I WC I'll be holding the majority of players I'm holding now anyway

    Siggy to Phillips is happening tonight no matter what
    Lallana is also rising


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I'll just do up a team with aguero in it instead of costa and see if I like it ......
    I don't
    Might just take the chance on aguero for -4 and captain him
    If it goes wrong I'll just WC next week then
    Not loving chelseas fixtures with that much invested in hazard and costa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Fairly terrible week to be wildcarding I'd have thought.
    Short week so little time to get injury details and no chance of (admittedly largely mythical) double rises.
    Then followed by a 12 day break in which lots can go wrong as it includes FA Cup games.
    Transfer window opening so todays first choicers may be benchwarmers by the middle of the month.


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