Newstalk Megathread 22/08/16 to date

vince

I use to listen to the entire high noon plus other shows. Just listen to a bit of Ivan now and he seems tame now. Listening to talk radio and lbc now instead.

Leroy42

Used to listen to the morning show, and then turn on whenever I got into the car. I imagine that many people have a 'default' station, probably set from the morning show.

The morning show with Paul and Shane is a total mess, IMO. Hard to listen to, seems poorly researched.

So that means that I rarely bother with NT at all now. I wonder if that is typical?

vince

I listen to whats coming up on Pat Kenny but then he mentions trump and i flick over to red fm cork.

Tombo2001

vince wrote: »

Interesting to see my mum tune out when ciara comes on now. So much for putting a woman on for the ladies to listen to. She use to have newstalk on from 9am till 6pm.

Your random sample of 1 is a real good indicator of the way the world is going.....thanks for sharing.

Leroy42

vince wrote: »

I listen to whats coming up on Pat Kenny but then he mentions trump and i flick over to red fm cork.

You turn off a news talk radio station for mentioning that it will be discussing the news?

LordSutch

LordSutch wrote: »

Bobby Kerr you say ...

Is that his normal voice?

He is recovering (or has recovered) from head and neck cancer, which I think has affected his voice.

vince

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Your random sample of 1 is a real good indicator of the way the world is going.....thanks for sharing.

Just my opinion

vince

Leroy42 wrote: »

You turn off a news talk radio station for mentioning that it will be discussing the news?[/quote
Theres a lot more news in the world than Trump.

Tell me how

vince wrote: »

Theres a lot more news in the world than Trump.

Yes but it is one of the most significant news topics of this decade. And Pat Kenny's discussions on it are some of the most interesting you will find anywhere.

I agree that there is more news in the world but this is very interesting.

Ol' Donie

Wow. Must be a record for saying the words "dog poo" over the last half hour.

KevIRL

That relatively new lady who does all of the (very many) corporate sponsor taglines over the day has obviously taken a lot of elecution lessons.

Snake Plisken

KevIRL wrote: »

That relatively new lady who does all of the (very many) corporate sponsor taglines over the day has obviously taken a lot of elecution lessons.

Is she the same one who does The Moncrieff Fact of the day intro I’d love to know who she is anyone know?

Snake Plisken

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Is she the same one who does The Moncrieff Fact of the day intro I’d love to know who she is anyone know?

is it Doireann Ní Bhriain, by any chance?

She does the announcements on the Luas, too.

"Faiche Stiabhna"

Snake Plisken

Koloman wrote: »

I think the fact of the day voice over woman is ex producer Caroline Clarke who now works for RTE.

Sean is well acquainted with her.:pac:

No it’s not Caroline as the same lady does a lot of more recent voiceovers for different programs

Snake Plisken

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

is it Doireann Ní Bhriain, by any chance?

She does the announcements on the Luas, too.

"Faiche Stiabhna"

I don’t think so as looking at her wiki page she only works for RTÉ and yes is the Luas announcer.

ghostdancer

JNLRs:

Newstalk Breakfast – Reach 121,000 (Up 2,000 listeners book-on-book)
Pat Kenny – Reach 150,000 (Down 1,000 listeners book-on-book)
High Noon (now Lunchtime with Ciara Kelly) – Reach 102,000 (Up 4,000 listeners book-on-book)
Moncrieff – Reach 79,000 (Up 2,000 listeners book-on-book)
Drive (now Hard Shoulder) – Reach 135,000 (Up 5,000 listeners book-on-book)
Off The Ball – Reach 53,000 (Up 2,000 listeners book-on-book)


so the biggest winners BoB were Chris and Sarah on Drive.
waiting for the ilevel.ie graphs for YoY.

53k is a highest ever listenership for OTB.

ButtersSuki

Chris Donohue on Sunday broadcast a pre-recorded interview with Paschal Donohue from some cafe or other. Paschal was his usual deflecting self, but the thing I remember most from the interview was the background noise - which was very distracting. Such a bizarre thing to do; I suspect it was designed to show Paschal is an ordinary guy who's so busy he has to have meetings at lunchtime etc. and he's just like you and me or down with the kids etc.

J.pilkington

ghostdancer wrote: »

53k is a highest ever listenership for OTB.

Ive never paid attention to otb numbers before but was shocked to see they are this small. I’m a big fan of the show and listen most evenings and I can only imagine with the number of presenters, quality of guests, paying match rights and the various locations they travel to can only mean that it can’t be making much money for newstalk.

Goes to show how valuable the likes of Matt Cooper is to Today FM, single reliable presenter for a long number of years pulling in more than 2x of otb numbers (appreciate it’s a different audience at a different time).

Leroy42

J.pilkington wrote: »

Ive never paid attention to otb numbers before but was shocked to see they are this small. I’m a big fan of the show and listen most evenings and I can only imagine with the number of presenters, quality of guests, paying match rights and the various locations they travel to can only mean that it can’t be making much money for newstalk.

Goes to show how valuable the likes of Matt Cooper is to Today FM, single reliable presenter for a long number of years pulling in more than 2x of otb numbers (appreciate it’s a different audience at a different time).

What portion of the listenership is it though? My guess, and its why I am asking, is that the total # of listeners is much higher during the Matt Cooper slot and thus to get 53k might be a good outcome.

In saying that, 53k does seem very low for the amount and variety of content that they cover

Richard Hillman

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Chris Donohue on Sunday broadcast a pre-recorded interview with Paschal Donohue from some cafe or other. Paschal was his usual deflecting self, but the thing I remember most from the interview was the background noise - which was very distracting. Such a bizarre thing to do; I suspect it was designed to show Paschal is an ordinary guy who's so busy he has to have meetings at lunchtime etc. and he's just like you and me or down with the kids etc.

I was listening to bit of that show on Sunday myself about Hidden Histories and Shamrock Rovers. For some reason there were seagulls in the background, maybe it was recorded somewhere as an outside broadcast.

J.pilkington

Leroy42 wrote: »

What portion of the listenership is it though? My guess, and its why I am asking, is that the total # of listeners is much higher during the Matt Cooper slot and thus to get 53k might be a good outcome.

In saying that, 53k does seem very low for the amount and variety of content that they cover

Agree completely, I suppose I am making two separate points

1. Return on investment from otb doesn’t look great but understand they have a smaller potential audience due to their time slot (maybe a reason for the old crew demanded an earlier slot and left when they didn’t get it?)
2. How important it is to get the drivetime slot right which I think Today FM do okay on. They are surely getting a good return on investment from Matt as the costs of the show (1 long term popular presenter) seem stable which would be attractive to potential advertisers

ButtersSuki

J.pilkington wrote: »

Agree completely, I suppose I am making two separate points

1. Return on investment from otb doesn’t look great but understand they have a smaller potential audience due to their time slot (maybe a reason for the old crew demanded an earlier slot and left when they didn’t get it?)
2. How important it is to get the drivetime slot right which I think Today FM do okay on. They are surely getting a good return on investment from Matt as the costs of the show (1 long term popular presenter) seem stable which would be attractive to potential advertisers

A couple of comments:
1. It's the targetting of the audience that's important to the advertisers. What's attractive about OTB is there's very little wastage there - if you're advertising a product that would be of interest to ABC1 Males aged 24-45 (like the core listenership of OTB would be then you've less %-wise outside of that target demographic than you would on say The Last Word. It's why you hear a lot of ads for male medical conditions (like testicular cancer) on shows like this and not female ones. Crude example but just go with it for the purposes of this exercise.
2. Advertisers couldn't care less about what costs are for a show - that's the show's/station's concern, not theirs. For advertisers, it's just about the audience - size yes, but also targeting.

Leroy42

Leroy42 wrote: »

What portion of the listenership is it though?

No idea, but by way of example, John Creedon (8pm - 10pm, RTÉR1) pulls in a significantly smaller audience, fluctuating at about 40,000 listeners, give or take.

RTÉ Arena (7pm - 8pm), which admittedly is more niche, only fluctuates around the 32,000 listener-mark.

Imhof Tank

Don't know whether this is imaginary but the ad breaks across the whole of Newstalk seem to me to have gotten much longer in the past while, as in a good 5 mins instead of maybe 2.

Have flicked to Nova a few times at the start of a break, listen to a full tune, flick back and the ads are still going.

ghostdancer

J.pilkington wrote: »

Ive never paid attention to otb numbers before but was shocked to see they are this small. I’m a big fan of the show and listen most evenings and I can only imagine with the number of presenters, quality of guests, paying match rights and the various locations they travel to can only mean that it can’t be making much money for newstalk.

Goes to show how valuable the likes of Matt Cooper is to Today FM, single reliable presenter for a long number of years pulling in more than 2x of otb numbers (appreciate it’s a different audience at a different time).

53k for that time of the evening is a good figure IMO.

as you said, Matt Cooper is on a different time, you could throw anyone into the drivetime slot and still hold most of his audience.
most people are commuting at that time of the evening, and with so many in cars, have the radio on, so much bigger numbers are to be expected.

I remember seeing the 15min breakdowns for programmes and most listenership numbers fall off a cliff from 6:15pm through to 7pm as people get home, Matt Cooper included.

Harry Palmr

When did Newstalk give up the ghost on opting out to Cork for the lunchtime programme or indeed anything else? They used to make great play of travelling about the country for a show every so often.

More Music

There was some guy reading de news during de week on Newsdalk.

I was fid to fire de radio into orbit.

Soft “D” pronunciation making words with “T” sound like a “D”.

Grader Manchester police
It took just a madder of minutes to....
Twidder closed Trump’s Twidder account
And now the spord with....

Apparently it’s called “Flapping” or “Flap T”. It’s an American English thing.

benjamin d

Tuning in to Chris Donohue's Sunday show today for the first time. I had to post here when one of the guests said there's a danger on social media of people getting into an echo chamber. This comment after 40 minutes of backslapping and nodding along to the same opinions between the lot of them.

A woman he has on was talking about people threatening to release private photos of internet users in the US. I feel compelled to record the acrobatics of her maths:

- 10% of internet users have been threatened
- 80% of the US has internet - 80% of 323million
- 10% of internet users are women under 35
- therefore 32 million women under 35 in the US have been threatened with having private photos released.

No one questioned her logic. Chris was tripping over himself to avoid saying anything offensive when he was feigning devil's advocate during a bit about John Halligan. Some guff about the pay gap as well, including a comment from the woman about how she only ever hears the men bring up money in interviews and not women, but in such a way that it was a negative to men, and then saying "we" (society, men?) need to fix that. Again no comment from the lads.

I used to like Chris even with his totally uncurious, unquestioning left-liberal bias, but he's just allowing his guests to make any statement they want as fact with no moderation at all.

styron

Chris Donoghue exits

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/chris-donoghue-to-leave-newstalk-after-14-years-communicorp-confirms-1.3297179?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

redbuck

styron wrote: »

Chris Donoghue exits

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/chris-donoghue-to-leave-newstalk-after-14-years-communicorp-confirms-1.3297179?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tw

Christmas has come early......

Tell me how

styron wrote: »

Chris Donoghue exits

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/chris-donoghue-to-leave-newstalk-after-14-years-communicorp-confirms-1.3297179?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

redbuck wrote: »

Christmas has come early......

We are so quick to complain about EVERYTHING in this country, he was knowledgeable, kept informed and while I wouldn't have made sure I didn't miss his show, I didn't think he was a disaster either.

Best of luck to him.

ButtersSuki

"Interesting" few weeks for Communicorp all round between Hook, Porter and Donoghue (art of me wonders if Chris is leaving after an internal backlash (overt or covert) after his part in the Hook saga?) all departing for various reasons.


And yet Paul Williams is still there!

redbuck

Tell me how wrote: »

styron wrote: »

Chris Donoghue exits

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/chris-donoghue-to-leave-newstalk-after-14-years-communicorp-confirms-1.3297179?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

redbuck wrote: »

Christmas has come early......

We are so quick to complain about EVERYTHING in this country, he was knowledgeable, kept informed and while I wouldn't have made sure I didn't miss his show, I didn't think he was a disaster either.

Best of luck to him.

Excuse me complaining about one presenter I personally dislike isn't complaining about EVERYTHING in this country. People have differing opinions to your one, get over it and don't jump down peoples throats with a different view point.

Tell me how

redbuck wrote: »

Excuse me complaining about one presenter I personally dislike isn't complaining about EVERYTHING in this country. People have differing opinions to your one, get over it and don't jump down peoples throats with a different view point.

I too voiced an opinion.

As for jumping down peoples throats. Thanks for the example.

Tell me how

ButtersSuki wrote: »

And yet Paul Williams is still there!

I think as long as the Kinahan's are in the news, he can be expected to continue. That's his schtick.

DubTony

Seriously. The station is f***ed.

If you just take Mon - Fri, we start the day with two clowns. "Hang 'em all" clown and "Ah - be nice to everyone" clown.

At 9 we get the Pat Kenny Magazine Show. FFS, one of the hardest hitting interviewers the country has ever seen/heard talks about dog maggots and the book of the month.

Next comes the tabloid Ciara Kelly Phone-in Show followed by Cranky Moncrieff and his standard "F*** you listener. I'm always right".

Wrap up the daytime with Ivan Doing his best to pretend he's an idiot (or maybe he's not pretending) and then we get to the only show worth listening to. At least the sports guys are doing what a listener would expect. Having a bit of laugh and doing great sports reporting.

I have to say that the loss of the likes of Donohue, McInerney, Dil whatshername, and any others of their ilk, isn't really a loss. Now they need to find some decent radio presenters and give them the freedom to present decent radio. Bobby Kerr's starting to look like a real pro these days.

CatFromHue

Pat has 15 hours a week so he has to branch out into more softer topics, he can't be just doing politics all the time.

I like his show.

Tell me how

Chris O'Donoghue cannot catch a break.

Announced last week he was leaving Newstalk to join Simon Coveney and now this Francis Fitzgerald mess is blowing up.

He'll remember 2017 for a while.

Tell me how

New weekend schedule announced today.

Guess who's back. Back again! George Hook - 2 Hr breakfast show on Saturday.
Andrea Gilligan and Jessica Kelly both get hour long shows on Sunday.

Think it's good news to see Andrea and Jessica getting opportunities having put in the hours behind the mic or in lesser roles before now. Albeit in fairly non-mainstream time slots.

bloodless_coup

Andrea Gilligan's voice annoys me.

Mr Snow

Will Jessica Kelly be still on the Pat Kenny show

Tell me how

Mr Snow wrote: »

Will Jessica Kelly be still on the Pat Kenny show

I'd imagine so. I suspect that her show will be recorded midweek and broadcast at the weekend.

evolving_doors

Guess who's back this Saturday?
https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/george-hook-returns-to-newstalk-with-new-weekend-slot-36459043.html

tototoe

evolving_doors wrote: »

Guess who's back this Saturday?
https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/george-hook-returns-to-newstalk-with-new-weekend-slot-36459043.html

Thankfuly at a time I won't ever have to hear him.

ghostdancer

good changes there.
Cuddihy deserves a full-time gig, and I've been impressed with Andrea Gilligan when she's been covering recently. Jess Kelly knows her tech stuff well and with the TED radio hour now in the Global Village slot, there's no issues with scrapping the Sunday one.
Hook getting 2hrs with regular travel/music/US politics items should keep the show fairly tight and interesting, rather than the rambling shambles of High Noon.

vince

Great to hear George Hook in good form on Redfm just now. Catch it later on neil prenderville pod cast. It will be 30 mins from end aprox.

artvanderlay

Is this Ciara Kelly on Newstalk arguing with a vegan on Newstalk??? My god, what a repugnant, toxic, sociopathic c*nt! Go on Sandra give it to the toxic b*tch! How is she a radio presenter...my God. She should be kicked off the show...disgraceful behaviour for a host. She is a nasty piece of work.

Odyssey 2005

Thoroughly dislike Kelly,however I'm in her corner on this one. This vegan is a nutter,threatening to hang up and chickening out when told to.

artvanderlay

Well done Sandra Higgins. Not a vegan myself, but that was atrocious smug behaviour by a host. Sandra ran rings around her, and Ciara exposed herself as an ignorant, stupid nasty piece of work. What a bunch of arseholes on Newstalk. They are so paranoid against vegans!

artvanderlay

I think she was threatening to hang up because of the snide ridiculous arguments from Kelly. She asked what was the point of bringing her on the show if that's all she was going to do. When she said I'm a psychologist, and Ciara goes "are ya?"....she needs a slap! Jesus, I only listened to Newstalk for an hour today for the first time in a long time...is this really the standard of show? It's like American right wing radio...just sociopathic nutters, that don't want to engage or challenge their own ideas of the world. That's me done with Newstalk again!