Newstalk Megathread 22/08/16 to date

meeeeh

meeeeh wrote: »

If I remember correctly majority of 5 billon of permanent spending is going on health care. I'm too busy to google that at the moment however we could hardly call trying to reduce waiting lists, increasing the number of doctors and similar waste of money. However I'm open to your justification for why it's waste of money.

I don't think it's a waste of money. where did I say it was? What are you on about?

I quite simply stated that the chap "The poster was obviously referring to pubs that were doing very little business pre covid and now are financially better off with PUP and the other supports.

Those cases are independent of cases where PUP etc are being abused so your rant of a post is not at all on topic"

I didn't bold the bit about permanent spending as it was independent to the PU point that you went off on a rant about.

Your point

meeeeh wrote: »

So any of you who think PUP and other supports were wasted go and run your own business employ people and feel responsible for their financial situation and then tell me how PUP was waste of money.

Was about supports to businesses.

You are now ranting for the sake of ranting.

meeeeh

Augeo wrote: »

I don't think it's a waste of money. where did I say it was? What are you on about?

I quite simply stated that the chap "The poster was obviously referring to pubs that were doing very little business pre covid and now are financially better off with PUP and the other supports.

Those cases are independent of cases where PUP etc are being abused so your rant of a post is not at all on topic"

I didn't bold the bit about permanent spending as it was independent to the PU point that you went off on a rant about.

Your point

Was about supports to businesses.

You are now ranting for the sake of ranting.

I think darling large chip on one's shoulder and too much time on their hands are not a good combo. So I will bow out of discussion with you about what another poster was saying in their post and what I was commenting (or ranting if you wish) on.

meeeeh

meeeeh wrote: »

I think darling large chip on one's shoulder and too much time on their hands are not a good combo. So I will bow out of discussion with you about what another poster was saying in their post and what I was commenting (or ranting if you wish) on.

Splendid, I could almost hear you
Have a good day.

whisky_galore

Not sure who to dislike more: Paul Murphy or the rep of the Irish Parking Association

2smiggy

whisky_galore wrote: »

Not sure who to dislike more: Paul Murphy or the rep of the Irish Parking Association

Paul Murphy , it's close, but unless they had someone like Hitler on it will always be Paul Murphy

Patrick2010

Pauls default argument is that the government should pay for everything funded by taxes on companies and the wealthy. He was on today arguing for free public transport and increased public transport funded by a tax on the wealthy that would bring in an extra 3 billion.
Other days you'll hear him arguing for open borders, free housing for any asylum seekers who arrive here and public funded social housing.

https://www.letusrise.ie/what-we-stand-for
Nationalise everything, Dunnes, Tesco, Supervalue etc etc !

Nationalise the banking system and the core sectors of the economy currently controlled by major corporations, including construction, natural resources, the big retail chains, logistics, distribution, transport and telecommunications, and run them as part of a democratically planned economy to serve people's needs not profit.

2smiggy

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Pauls default argument is that the government should pay for everything funded by taxes on companies and the wealthy. He was on today arguing for free public transport and increased public transport funded by a tax on the wealthy that would bring in an extra 3 billion.
Other days you'll hear him arguing for open borders, free housing for any asylum seekers who arrive here and public funded social housing.

https://www.letusrise.ie/what-we-stand-for
Nationalise everything, Dunnes, Tesco, Supervalue etc etc !

Nationalise the banking system and the core sectors of the economy currently controlled by major corporations, including construction, natural resources, the big retail chains, logistics, distribution, transport and telecommunications, and run them as part of a democratically planned economy to serve people's needs not profit.

not sure how this socialist utopia will work. I could see it working better in other counties where the population may all work together and be happy to subsidise the rest who won't. But I think we have too many people in the country who are used to getting everything for nothing already, making it easier by taxing the people who work is not the answer

He is delusional. The SF spokeswoman for finance is on now. She seems to be of the mindset of PUP forever as well. I'd sooner have a potato in charge of finance than any of those

2smiggy

2smiggy wrote: »

.............The SF spokeswoman for finance is on now. She seems to be of the mindset of PUP forever as well. I'd sooner have a potato in charge of finance than any of those

I thought Ciara K did a good job with questioning the SF finance spokesperson (I was going to say finance expert but :pac: ) .............. unfortunately any businesses that close or don't reopen by Oct when their industries are free to open ...... well their staff will have to go on JSA, the PUP isn't an appropriate payment for them by then.

If the €350/week PUP was paid indefinitely than many folk wouldn't bother looking for jobs to replace their €400/€450 per week gig that is gone.

I can't fathom why SF can't admit that rather than going to the extreme lefty view on everything.

No one who works in construction should be given the PUP now, sector is open....... if you are now unemployed there's JSA.

Del.Monte

Shane Coleman's ranting about Portmarnock Golf Club allowing women become full members is painful. It's a private club and it's their own business who they allow become members even if it doesn't suit his pc agenda. Personally, I couldn't care less as I can't stand golf but SC is a pain in the hole.

whisky_galore

Del.Monte wrote: »

Shane Coleman's ranting about Portmarnock Golf Club allowing women become full members is painful. It's a private club and it's their own business who they allow become members even if it doesn't suit his pc agenda. Personally, I couldn't care less as I can't stand golf but SC is a pain in the hole.

Exactly.
Sick of the woke spin put on everything. Who fcuking cares what a private toffee nosed golf club does?

2smiggy

I don't agree with Ciara a lot of the time, but Shane Coleman is ten times more painful.

ghostdancer

Anyone noticed how introductions to pieces are lifted wholesale from the Irish Times facebook links/IT pieces?

eg:
https://www.facebook.com/irishtimes/posts/10158332031876158

The Irish Times
13h
It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/portmarnock-golf-club-votes-to-admit-women-as-members-1.4576084

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/portmarnock-golf-club-votes-to-admit-women-as-members-1.4576084

It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.

In the end, it wasn’t even close. In a.....
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Shane Coleman's intro this morning:

It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.

Listen back around 8:50am this morning to hear him say it verbatim....

I've noticed a few other times too. Probably loads of incidents for anyone bothered to look.

Are the researchers/producers that lazy that they can't write a sentence or two intro themselves?

leath_dub

Israeli ambassador on the Hard Shoulder giving a masterclass in not answering questions.

Pussyhands

I see Susan Keogh has left.

Twitter post seems to indicate it's her decision.

Another SJW gone, thankfully.

EmmetSpiceland

Pussyhands wrote: »

I see Susan Keogh has left.

Twitter post seems to indicate it's her decision.

A terrible loss, if true. Was a real shame she wasn’t given a proper morning show on the weekends. Newstalk is brutal before ‘Off The Ball’ on a Saturday and before 11am on a Sunday.

Originally thought she was a shoe in for the ‘Lunchtime Live’ slot but still don’t think I would have listened if they persisted with the dreadful Live Line knock off.

Del.Monte

Ind. Councillor and Gaeilgeoir Peter Kavanagh (ex.Green Party) on The Hard Shoulder now flogging the dead horse that is the Irish language - the Greens are well rid of him.

whisky_galore

Del.Monte wrote: »

Ind. Councillor and Gaeilgeoir Peter Kavanagh (ex.Green Party) on The Hard Shoulder now flogging the dead horse that is the Irish language - the Greens are well rid of him.

Let's have more government tweets that no-one will read.

marno21

Denis O'Brien had a conference call with Communicorp employees on his last day of involvement with the group today, where he instructed the Irish Times ban to be lifted.

https://www.independent.ie/business/denis-obrien-marks-last-day-as-owner-of-radio-brands-by-telling-staff-its-time-to-lift-irish-times-ban-40489447.html

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Denis O'Brien had a conference call with Communicorp employees on his last day of involvement with the group today, where he instructed the Irish Times ban to be lifted.

https://www.independent.ie/business/denis-obrien-marks-last-day-as-owner-of-radio-brands-by-telling-staff-its-time-to-lift-irish-times-ban-40489447.html

Not sure I'd be glad of this, if I were the object of his kiss of death

In a final call with staff, Mr O’Brien is understood to have thanked employees and singled out individual contributions to the group, including from chairwoman Lucy Gaffney and veteran presenters Pat Kenny of Newstalk and Ian Dempsey of Today FM.

2smiggy

bit of this on the show this morning.

there are a few no doubt a bit nervous at the moment

I think anyone except Pat Kenny or Sean Moncrieff should be

Pussyhands

Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways.

Cuddihy isn't a big enough name or a heavy enough puncher to hold drive time.

2smiggy

Pussyhands wrote: »

Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways.

Cuddihy isn't a big enough name or a heavy enough puncher to hold drive time.

agree with the morning slot. I am sorting of warming to Cuddihy a bit. He's no Ivan or George, but they could do a lot worse.

Pussyhands

2smiggy wrote: »

agree with the morning slot. I am sorting of warming to Cuddihy a bit. He's no Ivan or George, but they could do a lot worse.

Cuddihy is ok to listen to, but he really tries too hard to be "tough" but all his opinions are populist. Imagine Ivan talking about the young people and housing, he'd be saying the young people of old made sacrafices to save up etc. I mightn't agree with everything hed say but he'd come out with some things most others would be too afraid to say.

They haven't even changed the format of the show, it's just trying to be Ivan's show...thursday interview etc.

Pussyhands

Pussyhands wrote: »

Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways. .............

Yes, Ciara might have to go fulltime on the 'gram :pac:

Wonder if Bauer have any interest in developing DAB here now that RTÉ has pulled away from it.

meeeeh

Why do people think Bauer media will suddenly start making programmes for those bitter right wing listeners who feel slighted at the moment. It's not like they have much buying power and advertiser appeal.

robo

Was there not an influx of Irish Times journalists on Newstalk this morning?
I can't believe that this was allowed to go on by the "journalists" working at the radio station - imagine if a newspaper refused ink on of their stories/insights/pictures etc ... Sure Ciara Kelly would be up on the soap box about it all :rolleyes:

2smiggy

meeeeh wrote: »

Why do people think Bauer media will suddenly start making programmes for those bitter right wing listeners who feel slighted at the moment. It's not like they have much buying power and advertiser appeal.

who said anything about 'right wing' ?

Faugheen

robo wrote: »

Was there not an influx of Irish Times journalists on Newstalk this morning?
I can't believe that this was allowed to go on by the "journalists" working at the radio station - imagine if a newspaper refused ink on of their stories/insights/pictures etc ... Sure Ciara Kelly would be up on the soap box about it all :rolleyes:

I don't know what you expect them to do. If they walk people aren't just going to hire them because they took a stand. If anything that would put off potential employers.

I'm sure there was no issues among staff at the IT and Newstalk themselves and that this issue was very much about one man whose ego was hurt and there was nothing anybody could do about it.

Now that he's gone, the ban will be lifted, and everything will be as it should be again.

Ahwell

Faugheen wrote: »

I don't know what you expect them to do.

One of them did do something. Sean Moncrieff started writing a column for the Irish Times very soon after the ban was put in place. Which did put Communicorp in quite a position.

meeeeh

Ahwell wrote: »

One of them did do something. Sean Moncrieff started writing a column for the Irish Times very soon after the ban was put in place. Which did put Communicorp in quite a position.

Not really. Newton Emerson, Jen Hogan, Tanya Sweeney and Paul Howard (I'm sure there are more) were all on Newstalk over the years. Some quite often. I don't think freelancers were ever included in the ban.

Ahwell

meeeeh wrote: »

Not really. Newton Emerson, Jen Hogan, Tanya Sweeney and Paul Howard (I'm sure there are more) were all on Newstalk over the years. Some quite often. I don't think freelancers were ever included in the ban.

Sorry, I'm struggling to see the relevance here. "Not really" what?

Faugheen

Ahwell wrote: »

One of them did do something. Sean Moncrieff started writing a column for the Irish Times very soon after the ban was put in place. Which did put Communicorp in quite a position.

Did it though? I don’t remember hearing any furore about that. Irish Times had no reason to play the petty games of Denis O’Brien. Public opinion was very much on their side so I would imagine they had that deal with Moncrieff sown up before the ban.

Also, many IT columnists have been on Newstalk shows. It’s the full-time staffers that haven’t.

2smiggy

2smiggy wrote: »

who said anything about 'right wing' ?

The morning show is fronted by the most right wing folk imaginable
Iirc Ciara was disgruntled as one of her kids didn't get extra points for going to private school........ nothing left going on there.

Ahwell

Faugheen wrote: »

Did it though? I don’t remember hearing any furore about that. Irish Times had no reason to play the petty games of Denis O’Brien. Public opinion was very much on their side so I would imagine they had that deal with Moncrieff sown up before the ban.

Also, many IT columnists have been on Newstalk shows. It’s the full-time staffers that haven’t.

I get that, but none of those other IT columnists were one of Newstalk's main presenters. Unlike Moncrieff, none of them received an email form Communicorp's CEO demanding they exclude Irish Times journalists and other staff from any Communicorp stations or shows and then decided to start writing a column for that exact same newspaper. I think Moncrieff did it very deliberately and I'm sure it would of been noticed by the powers to be at Communicorp. They didn't react to it it in public, who knows what happened in private.

styron

The ban was instituted after Moncrieff had signed up as a columnist but before the inaugural issue of the IT Saturday magazine.

Prior external work clearly wasn't prohibited under his NT contract. Attempting to arbitrarily unwind and fetter his ability to earn would have been legally foolhardy - particularly when he'd already been shorn of a third of his airtime/money to make way for Hook's Lunchtime enema. Sean's position must have been cast iron given the capricious way the likes of original OTB, Wickremasinghe, and Carol Coleman departed.

Ahwell

styron wrote: »

The ban was instituted after Moncrieff had signed up as a columnist but before the inaugural issue of the IT Saturday magazine.

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Which would make it more of a happenstance then I realised. Embarrassing for Communicorp, but the timing appears to be a coincidence.

whisky_galore

Predictably, a lot of BuT mY HoUSe today.

Del.Monte

Just in case you missed it, Dr.Ciara Kelly's has announced to a waiting world that she's getting a tattoo. Whatever happened to a hundred days of walking?

Aglomerado

Del.Monte wrote: »

Just in case you missed it, Dr.Ciara Kelly's has announced to a waiting world that she's getting a tattoo. Whatever happened to a hundred days of walking?

Will it say "I'm a doctor!"?

I'm enjoying James Vincent McMorrow.

whisky_galore

Earth shattering mid-life crisis stuff.

2smiggy

whisky_galore wrote: »

Earth shattering mid-life crisis stuff.

I hope it's a face tattoo

If it's tasteful it'll go nicely with the leopard print stuff she wears :pac:

meeeeh

Hahaha some comedians in here.... a woman who wears leopard print... Hahaha isn't that funny. :rolleyes:

I was being nothing but sincere, as I mentioned here before I'm 100% supportive of the older ladies adopting Joanna Lumley's views on throwing out the fashion rulebook

Strange you jump on my comment but face tattoo and mid life crisis posts don't attract your ire. Even though it's strange it's not unexpected though, you seem to pounce on many of my posts in this topic........... I do hope you get enjoyment or whatever from that
I certainly do.

meeeeh

Augeo wrote: »

I was being nothing but sincere, as I mentioned here before I'm 100% supportive of the older ladies adopting Joanna Lumley's views on throwing out the fashion rulebook

Strange you jump on my comment but face tattoo and mid life crisis posts don't attract your ire. Even though it's strange it's not unexpected though, you seem to pounce on many of my posts in this topic........... I do hope you get enjoyment or whatever from that
I certainly do.

I don't think you understand the meaning of 'all'. Anyway this type of discussion is much better for pm's.

meeeeh

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't think you understand the meaning of 'all'. Anyway this type of discussion is much better for pm's.

I didn't use 'all' , what are you referring to?
No need to PM me.

I automatically reach for the dial when I hear that Hyundai Tuscon ad begin, anyone else?

It's the worst radio ad I've heard in a long time, yer man's voice is smug as f**k and highly off-putting.

VonLuck

It has to be the Dunnes Stores ones for me. The high pitched woman describing this weeks offers is very grating.

meeeeh

The Covid ad for me. If I could squash it... Arghhh