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Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Just because an allegation is easily made it doeant mean it should be brushed off as false. That's a dangerous road to go down! The four year old wouldn't be listened to and the mother couldn't afford a section 47 report by a psychologist.
Also what serious proof could she get? ask to go in and film him in the act??

well surely she would have some sort of proof before making an allegation of that nature?

Snugglebunnies

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Also what serious proof could she get? ask to go in and film him in the act??

Did he accept the allegation or not?

If he didn't, well she has to prove it. That's the way the legal system works. You can't just throw out an allegation and not expect a challenge. And the porn one is getting suspiciously popular...a cynic might wonder if it's one that Solicitors kinda implant in that "well, did he do ANYTHING, like smoke the odd joint, or drink too much, or watch porn..." way that sadly does happen.

If he accepted it, she could ask him to furnish an undertaking not to do it in front of the child.

One thing she cannot and should not do is say "I've made an allegation that I cannot prove and now I'm breaching a Court Order". That certainly won't improve matters anyway, and may ultimately lead to the child being removed from her completely.

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Deleted User wrote: »

Again, that's the parents passing the buck to "the system".

It's not. It's a parent looking for help from the system because of issues arising with the other parent. What do you expect them to do if there's say a psychological abuse case and Tusla don't help and the court can't help?

Deleted User wrote: »

If a parent makes an allegation of actual abuse, well who better to refer it than Tusla? I presume you accept it should be investigated? Who else would do it?

Like I said, Tusla will do what it can to not get involved unless there's some form of court order and the courts are reluctant to grant one.

Deleted User wrote: »

If they are rowing and making all sorts of allegations and denials about the quality of parenting by the other...who better to refer it to than a psychologist with expertise?

A psychologist (if you can get one) will deal with the child in confidentiality. Even the parents aren't told what is discussed at the sessions and they will not pass the details on to a social worker unless under court order. See point 1.

Deleted User wrote: »

You surely would not have social workers, trained to deal with acute situations, now start assessing the relative merits of parents? I do think they are a bit OTT with their reluctance to commit...but I can understand that.

Even if not trained to deal with them, they should at least have resources available to point parents in the right direction.

Snugglebunnies

The child spoke about it at home and school and started displaying sexual behaviour so that's pretty obvious that it wasn't made up.

She has gone to branardos for help. Anyway I think I'm giving out too much info about someone else so I'd better put a lid on it!